2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Pneumonia is what normally kills off the elderly isn't it?
Clinton will have the best medical care of course, but for a lot of 68 year-olds in the world the word pneumonia is pretty scary.
 
Raoul said:
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I just re-watched one of the examples. I remember seeing it without audio and thought it was weird. This time I saw it with audio. If that is the best example of their seizure conspiracy it is hilarious. She was making fun of 5 or so reporters who asked her a question at the exact same time.
 
No worries, life-force or not, the water is still her bane.

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GiddyUp said:
OH oh oh oh he said some nice words oh oh oh oh he is pivoting oh oh oh he's starting to look presidential. Watch him call her some names in a few hours on Twitter.
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It's amazing that he gets praised for not being classless. Basically something that any normal candidate would do and no one would bat an eyelid.

I guess for him the bar is so low. Not sure if that was his strategy all along or weather it just worked out this way.
 
George Owen said:
for a politician to say, yes...

but its a contradiction.

unregulated capitalism (financial right) is the reason today social inequality has spiked to the maximum levels in modern history.
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There's no contradiction since you are simply giving a subjective opinion that will never be operationalized. Cuban's view is a pretty common, balanced, centrist view that many Americans have in that they want to balance the national budget whilst being flexible on social issues.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
The beauty of the modern mainstream media is that it caters for people's incredibly short attention span. A month ago this place was laughing itself silly over the Psycho Yam's poll number and Khan's comment controversy. In a week no one will give a damn about the 'seizures' and 'collapse'.

On the flip side, because nobody seem to be capable of remembering anything that happened before yesterday, Clinton can actually be in deep shit if she leads by sub 4 points going into the final week and get a bad news cycle on the eve of Election Day.
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Early voting starts soon I think. She's got the ground game ready to capitalize on that. Romney won in a few states the election day voting but Obama won early voting and that was enough for him to win some states. Saw it on CNN over the weekend. Can't remember the details.
 
George Owen said:
for a politician to say, yes...

but its a contradiction.

unregulated capitalism (financial right) is the reason today social inequality has spiked to the maximum levels in modern history.
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Its probably the most common positioning among people you might call the "management class" in the US and other developed and developing economies.

I find leaning liberal on social issues and left of economic issues a contradiction too, because there is a (further) limitation of your economic freedom under most left leaning policies. But I've just come to accept the reality that's where a ton of people find themselves on the spectrum.
 
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It's just natural to say that you want to do things cheaply and efficiently. It doesn't necessarily mean that you are too tight to pay for social programmes.
 
But whoever drafts his statements knows what they are doing

I was thus deeply shocked and alarmed to hear my opponent attack, slander, smear, demean these wonderful, amazing people who are supporting our campaign by the millions. Our support ... comes from every walk of life... millions of working class families who just want a better future and a good job.

These were the people Hillary Clinton so viciously demonized. These were among the countless Americans that Hillary Clinton called deplorable, irredeemable and un-American...

She called them every name in the book... she called half of our supporters a basket of deplorables... she divides people into baskets as though they were objects, not human beings... she and her wealthy donors all had a good laugh... at the very people who paved the roads... paint the buildings she speaks in, and importantly, all of the other functions...

Hillary Clinton is an insider supported by powerful insiders attacking Americans who have absolutely no political power. Hillary Clinton spoke with hatred and derision for the people that make this country run...

While Hillary Clinton lives a sequestered life behind gates and guards, she mocks and demeans hardworking Americans..

After months of hiding from the press, HIllary Clinton has revealed her true thoughts...as someone who looks down on the proud citizens of this country...

Hillary Clinton believes she is above each and every one of you. Our campaign is about giving voice to the voiceless...

I am running so that the powerful can no longer beat up on the powerless.
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Wednesday at Stoke said:
If she has a strong debate performance, which she likely will, everything will be forgotten. I can see Trump lampooning himself on national TV.
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Commander forum when Hillary was asked a question she left her seat and gave in depth answers involving policy and who she is meeting with to create that policy. Trump just said " its a problem and we are going to fix it ". When questioned on his tweet about sexual assault he said " well some people agree with that". The man has nothing only a black heart, a wallet currently owned by China and Russia and an ugly back to front comb over with a face caked in foundation. He wears more makeup and hairspray then Hillary but yet I'm told he is a mans man. I for one can't wait for the debates, that is usually when the bullshit ceases and voters pay attention.
It is also worth noting that with Hillary she brings a lot of really smart courageous people to assist her including 3 or 4 ex presidents. Trump brings his employees or as he calls them, " his children ", an economic team named Steve with only one degree in advance economics between them, the far far far right nationalist element of this country and Twitter.
 
You also have to take into consideration that Trump's audiences don't care if he's vague, in fact they are more impressed by his ability to be entertaining and crack jokes than they are about specific policy questions. So what will likely happen at the debates is she will be very policy specific and he will probably be somewhere in the middle - attempt at being more specific than he usually is, but not try to match her, but instead be an entertainer.
 
George Owen said:
Not really. How do you lean right on financial issues and lean center on social issues?
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Bit weird that a billionaire cannot see that when a republican is in office the government gets bloated, the surplus of a dem president gets evicerated in to a massive deficit and the national debt increases by a few trillion. Theses are economic facts of the United States.
 
Raoul said:
You also have to take into consideration that Trump's audiences don't care if he's vague, in fact they are more impressed by his ability to be entertaining and crack jokes than they are about specific policy questions. So what will likely happen at the debates is she will be very policy specific and he will probably be somewhere in the middle - attempt at being more specific than he usually is, but not try to match her, but instead be an entertainer.
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And the worrying thing is that it'll probably work to an extent.
 
Raoul said:
You also have to take into consideration that Trump's audiences don't care if he's vague, in fact they are more impressed by his ability to be entertaining and crack jokes than they are about specific policy questions. So what will likely happen at the debates is she will be very policy specific and he will probably be somewhere in the middle - attempt at being more specific than he usually is, but not try to match her, but instead be an entertainer.
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"Me hate brown peoples, you hate brown peoples" grunt grunt.
 
Cheesy said:
And the worrying thing is that it'll probably work to an extent.
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It will reinforce him to the audiences at still support him and same for her, but being policy specific will probably help her more with anyone who is still on the fence.
 
Raoul said:
It will reinforce him to the audiences at still support him and same for her, but being policy specific will probably help her more with anyone who is still on the fence.
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You'd hope. The concern is though that this election and US politics in general have been dominated by personalities instead of politics. That mainly applies to Trump but it can arguably go for Clinton too in that she's been painted as this reliable establishment figure of sorts. I don't think she's a particularly impressive public speaker and if Trump plays the debates well, not being too outrageous but still making it about personality, he may benefit.
 
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