There's a reason he is endorsing Hillary - because without his support Trump will be the next President. There is no such thing as a legitimate third party option in this race that wouldn't result in either Hillary or Trump getting elected. Policy wise, Bernie and Hillary are pretty much in sync if you compare their platforms to Trump's.
2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins
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There's a reason he is endorsing Hillary - because without his support Trump will be the next President. There is no such thing as a legitimate third party option in this race that wouldn't result in either Hillary or Trump getting elected. Policy wise, Bernie and Hillary are pretty much in sync if you compare their platforms to Trump's.
Yes, I'm a Bernie supporter and now I'll be supporting Jill Stein. She is the best candidate in the race right now. And no, I do not think that the Sanders campaign is like DWS and the Clinton campaign. The primaries were never fair and the DNC and the Clinton campaign worked together throughout to make Clinton the nominee. Hillary hiring DWS to work for her campaign after resigning as the DNC chair just proves this.
Now, DWS is not even going to speak at the DNC to avoid being booed.
he said at the very beginning of the process that he´d endorse the winner, so no point in going back on his word. Of course he has to endorse her now.
It is quite funny to see democrats getting nervous. Now they try to shame and scare monger everyone into voting for Clinton. Maybe, just maybe they should have thought about that before electing one of the most corrupt and disgusting politicians of their party. It would still be easy to win over the left wing crowd, if Clinton would promises credibly (
) to commit to certain standards of good and transparent government. Obviously she can´t do that, so she has to hope that enough people are willing to vote against Trump. It is a gamble. If that doesn´t pay off, she is responsible for Trump. Not the people who didn´t vote for her.
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Good riddance. She was a distraction.
He didnt run as third party though. He ran as a democrat and said at the start that he would support the democrat candidate.
And hillary is way closer to his agenda than drumpf. Also its too polarized and dangerous for him to take a risk. The stakes are too high.
I understand what you are saying at one level but then what will that even achieve except trump presidency and his Choice of judges? Also then it looks like him going back on his word as well.
he said at the very beginning of the process that he´d endorse the winner, so no point in going back on his word. Of course he has to endorse her now.
It is quite funny to see democrats getting nervous. Now they try to shame and scare monger everyone into voting for Clinton. Maybe, just maybe they should have thought about that before electing one of the most corrupt and disgusting politicians of their party. It would still be easy to win over the left wing crowd, if Clinton would promises credibly (
Yep. It should have been a slam dunk.
The Dem convention not going too smoothly here. Boos when either clinton or kaine are mentioned it seems.
yep and just another point of attack for squirrelhead
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Did the AMA happen? I wandered into the cuckfree zone, took a bath, saw no sign of the AMA, and wandered out, and am showering as we speak.
Did the AMA happen? I wandered into the cuckfree zone, took a bath, saw no sign of the AMA, and wandered out, and am showering as we speak.
And we used to laugh at the Tea Party.
Scheduled for Wednesday I think.
That 400+ is looking a bit far-fetched, no?
It'll be comfortable in the end, won't stop the same people booing now from whining 'should have been more'.
AlasThat 400+ is looking a bit far-fetched, no?
It'll be comfortable in the end, won't stop the same people booing now from whining 'should have been more'.
When is Bernie speaking?
I saw the last 2 guys, this seems too boring to see any more of.
I saw the last 2 guys, this seems too boring to see any more of.
I think he's between Michelle Obama and Elizabeth Warren..towards the very end.
It's on Wednesday, at 7 PM eastern time.
The LA Times says the big speeches will start 9pm eastern with Sen. Booker, then FLOTUS, then leading to Warren.
Bernie spoke once already today. Is he supposed to speak again tonight then?
He has a major speaking role tonight. The earlier speech was just a rally outside the convention center.
Ah! Gotcha. I'm hoping that tuning in at 9 will let me catch all the big ones then.
Chomsky gets it. Excellent. All the Bernie Bots who are throwing their toys out and threatening to vote for Jill Stein need to read that.
He's been consistent on that forever. I know he has more disdain for Hillary than Obama, and his logic is based on war deaths by Republicans, so I was wondering what it would be this time...till Trump became their nominee
I think Chomsky called him an existential threat to mankind.
Why have they written trumps name on so many fecking posters, you'd expect the organisers to know a thing or two about not giving the publicity monster even more publicity.
Chomsky has taken the most common sense position I've seen him take in years. He knows the fundamental difference between voting for a centrist in Clinton and the far right in the Trump ticket. Tea Party cannot be aloud to run anything of any significance. If the Democratic candidate were Ronald McDonald, he'd be well worth voting for when the alternative is regressive far right nonsense.
Sanders isn't even far left enough for Chomsky, but he knows that politics is about compromise and common sense.
He advocated voting for Obama in 2008 and 2012 (and I'm pretty sure for Kerry, etc.) This is his position. Of course, in between elections he said Obama has committed war crimes by the letter of the law
Meanwhile,
She's not a Republican, she's the anti-trump rabid dog on CNN. They usually got 5-6 panelists all talking over each other, but she takes the cupcake.
Yes, but what I mean is, he votes based on practicality rather than sentiment which is admirable and sensible.He advocated voting for Obama in 2008 and 2012 (and I'm pretty sure for Kerry, etc.) This is his position. Of course, in between elections he said Obama has committed war crimes by the letter of the law
He has a case with Obama. Not sure I agree with him, but he can be rather persuasive.
He advocated voting for Obama in 2008 and 2012 (and I'm pretty sure for Kerry, etc.) This is his position. Of course, in between elections he said Obama has committed war crimes by the letter of the law
Meanwhile,
That 2% of consistent Clinton supporters that are going for Trump deserves further study
There should be an "I have no clue what the feck you're asking me" option on these things. That's like the small % of UKIP members who were polled that said they'd be voting remain!That 2% of consistent Clinton supporters that are going for Trump deserves further study
There is always a small percentage of people who like to feck with pollsters, or anyone asking them questions in general really.
She's a Bush/Rubio south Florida Republican. It's quite understable that a self-respecting Republican doesn't like a demagogic charlatan like Trump.
The DNC has some impressive guest speakers lined up for later on.
Really think Trump will win this thing.
He needed a perfect storm to win the nomination and he got it. I reckon he needs a perfect storm to win the general and so far things are just falling into place.
The stars just seemed aligned for him.
He needed a perfect storm to win the nomination and he got it. I reckon he needs a perfect storm to win the general and so far things are just falling into place.
The stars just seemed aligned for him.
I really cannot understand this way of thinking.
Jill Stein has zero possibilities of being elected. But even in the imaginary universe where she is elected, she has zero possibilities of getting any legislation through.
On the other hand, there is a big chance that Trump will be elected and make the like of a few million people more miserable that it is now...
The whole thing seems to me a repeat of the 2000 elections. If the 3% that voted for Nader had voted for Gore, Bush would have never been elected and we wouldn't have the Iraq war. Millions have suffered because of the Bush presidency.
Yes, in life we often chose the lesser of two evils! It's not perfect, but that's life!
But I guess people never learn...
It's exactly the same as Britain leaving the EU. Everyone was scared of it, all the talk was about how it can't happen and everyone was so cock sure it wouldn't happen, then it did. I can see so many similarities with this scenario. I think he will win too. My mind HOPES he can't win, it constantly does the maths with voting demographics and the like, but my heart is saying he has already won. This email bullshit just makes me more certain.
Feck it, I nearly died in February, I'm booking a holiday to visit my mate in Thailand. If the world is fecked, I want to watch it from a bar where women are firing ping pong balls at me from their snatch at the same time.
Sanders could change this hugely in favour of Clinton tonight. I think he'll give a ringing endorsement.
What exactly does voting for a third party candidate accomplish other than Trump becoming the next president?
I think it's just a way out for those who wanna go and vote for someone. Just like people who annul their votes or boycott elections all together, and go home with a clear conscious, when actually they did affect the outcome.
Point is , anyone who resort to such futile options is helping Trump become the president. Period.
I know how terrible it would feel for you to vote for Clinton, but think about the whole country, and the world as well!! After all, socialists are collectivists who think about the group, right?
I think it's just a way out for those who wanna go and vote for someone. Just like people who annul their votes or boycott elections all together, and go home with a clear conscious, when actually they did affect the outcome.
Point is , anyone who resort to such futile options is helping Trump become the president. Period.
I know how terrible it would feel for you to vote for Clinton, but think about the whole country, and the world as well!! After all, socialists are collectivists who think about the group, right?
This Latino segment probably not going down well since the artifice of their strategy was laid bare. Still, better than Trump.
the feck is this guy? How are these people elected to congress?
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