FromTheBench
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No surprise to me. Can't stand her.General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton CNN/ORC Cruz 49, Clinton 48 Cruz **
General Election: Cruz vs. Sanders CNN/ORC Sanders 57, Cruz 40 Sanders +17
quite interesting that. Even Cruz is more poplular than Hillary.
No surprise to me. Can't stand her.
For the 110th time head to head polls mean feck all at this point.
I think she has enough support to be very competitive in a General election. Not sure what I'd do if it was Trump v Hillary. If Bloomberg came in as an independent I'd probably vote for him.personal feelings aside, the reality is she has no message and is not trusted or liked. bad ingredients for a General election.
I think she has enough support to be very competitive in a General election. Not sure what I'd do if it was Trump v Hillary. If Bloomberg came in as an independent I'd probably vote for him.
Maybe so but its hard to take seriously anything that Hillary or Trump say. I don't trust them to follow through with what they are saying.If she adopted some of Bernie's proposals, I can see myself voting for her.Not otherwise. Just having Bernie holding her hand up and saying he supports her would not eb enough for many. If it is Trump like it looks, he will most likely move to her left on Health Care and Education I think. For those that dislike her, it will be enough to vote against her.
Trump... Follow throughMaybe so but its hard to take seriously anything that Hillary or Trump say. I don't trust them to follow through with what they are saying.
Good point.Trump... Follow through
I hope not in all respects
Maybe so but its hard to take seriously anything that Hillary or Trump say. I don't trust them to follow through with what they are saying.
Apparently Obama never at any point had as big a delegate lead in the 2008 contest as Hillary currently has over Bernie (and no, that's not taking superdelegates into account either). That's quite something.
True, still surprised she got such an insurmountable lead so quickly though, particularly after the dodgy start. Pretty much the key message though for both the Democratic primary and the general election - you can't win if you don't have any traction with minority voters. Partly why I'm convinced Trump cannot win.It's not all that surprising. Despite his excellent campaign and getting young people involved etc. he's still a fringe candidate. He's never broken through significantly amongst the core democratic base like Obama did.
True, still surprised she got such an insurmountable lead so quickly though, particularly after the dodgy start. Pretty much the key message though for both the Democratic primary and the general election - you can't win if you don't have any traction with minority voters. Partly why I'm convinced Trump cannot win.
personal feelings aside, the reality is she has no message and is not trusted or liked. bad ingredients for a General election.
They are split even with Latinos. It is her huge African-Americans margins, especially in the south, that are driving that gap.
For the 110th time head to head polls mean feck all at this point.
Not exactly true...her message is that she's four more years of what Obama has been doing. That is worth voting for.
If the alternative is any of the Repubs, then yes.Not exactly true...her message is that she's four more years of what Obama has been doing. That is worth voting for.
Not according to Texas, the biggest data point yet, and a Univision poll from the end of last month showing her with a 2-1 lead - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/wapo-univision-poll-2016/en/?tid=a_inlThey are split even with Latinos. It is her huge African-Americans margins, especially in the south, that are driving that gap.
Obama has underperformed. Hardly encouraging.
Obama has underperformed. Hardly encouraging.
Expectations were too high and look what he was up against.
Obama IMO has done an excellent job considering the mess he inherited and the obstructionist Congress.
If Hillary's 4 years builds on Obama's accomplishments I reckon the country will be in a good place.
The force is strong with the Anyone But Hillary camp.
Not according to Texas, the biggest data point yet, and a Univision poll from the end of last month showing her with a 2-1 lead - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/wapo-univision-poll-2016/en/?tid=a_inl
She had a 42% lead with hispanic voters in Texas and won by 32%. The 2-1 margin is from a nationwide poll of hispanic voters.But he did well in Colorado and Nevada, and 2-1 is his overall margin in Texas anyway. Looks as much a Southern problem as anything. Florida and NC will thus be the end of him.
Have they had any of those recently?Looking like a good day for Cruz. Not exactly great for the GOP though.