fishfingers15
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Cruz has this annoying habit of talking deliberately slowly, the wimp.
Cruz has this annoying habit of talking deliberately slowly, the wimp.
It's a caucus. They report state delegators. Not raw votes.
Updated now so looks more fitting.Was just about to ask.
Bernie seems to be winning every constituency but the overall count has remained 61-45 Hillary for an hour
61-45 what? Apples?
How many states are left to announce their results?
what the feck am i watching
Superficially, getting destroyed delegate wise though.4 states for Sanders. Better than expected?
4 states for Sanders. Better than expected?
Superficially is what matters in terms of the narrative, though, presumably? 'I've won lots of delegates' doesn't sound as good as 'I won this state and that state etc'.Superficially, getting destroyed delegate wise though.
Maybe temporarily (inasmuch as "lost slightly less than we thought" can be a good narrative), but he has zero chance of the nomination after tonight. Black voters are regularly going against him 85-15 and he can't come back from that.Superficially is what matters in terms of the narrative, though, presumably? 'I've won lots of delegates' doesn't sound as good as 'I won this state and that state etc'.
Yup. Whatever happens, it's not going to be amicableThe likeliest outcome of the GOP race is Trump winning. The 2nd likeliest is a contested convention IMO.
I can't see any other guy winning outright.
Little Marcobot is gonna cry himself to sleep tonight.
Yeah I saw it. His little voice was all crackly, it'd be sad if he wasn't such a horrible prick himself.Rubio on CNN now underplaying the results claiming 'It was supposed to be a Cruz night' etc etc.
Cruz has this annoying habit of talking deliberately slowly...
Lindsey Graham now saying they may have to unite behind Cruz
Fair to say that Warren's non-endorsement stopped it from being a decent day for Sanders.
A narrow MA win or a better showing in Texas and he might yet have stolen the narrative (and not been murdered in delegates)
Still, it shows his utter hopelessness in the south (and she has done shockingly in MN and CO too, -20 in both so far)
He won 4 states, that's decent enough. He picked up delegates on the states he lost but likewise for Clinton as well. HRC has nearly 500 super delegates, so it's not a fair fight. Sanders can be extremely proud of what he has achieved so far and what he will still accomplish in this race.
Why did Warren hold out? For a good post in HRC's cabinet?
Fair to say that Warren's non-endorsement stopped it from being a decent day for Sanders.
A narrow MA win or a better showing in Texas and he might yet have stolen the narrative (and not been murdered in delegates)
Still, it shows his utter hopelessness in the south (and she has done shockingly in MN and CO too, -20 in both so far)
Think I'd go Trump, Clinton, Cruz, Sanders, Rubio.In order of who had the most successful night from my perspective, of the main contenders:
Clinton - wrapped up the nomination
Cruz - Won Texas big, won Oklahoma, way in front of Rubio now for delegates
Trump - Still on track to win the nomination but not as dominant tonight as it was thought he'd be, came close to losing Vermont and Virginia, lost Oklahoma
Sanders - Got crushed in delegates and now has no conceivable path to the nomination, but won a few states and will have a fair few delegates come the convention
Rubio - Poor Little Marco Rubio. Finally won a battle, may have lost the war.
It's important because on previous polling, Trump was getting enough support for a majority of delegates. But if he's not doing as well as they say, the chances of a contested convention increase accordingly. If they're overstating him in Florida for instance, and Rubio manages to snare some more support from other anti-Trumpers, he'd only need to score 1 vote more than Trump to get all 99 delegates there, which would change perspectives a little. Point being, I can still see ways for Trump to not get the nomination, and Cruz is now looking the stronger alternative.Think I'd go Trump, Clinton, Cruz, Sanders, Rubio.
I think you can pay too much attention to polls and forget that actually getting votes is what matters, not whether you got slightly less than many thought possible.
Which is good for Trump, isn't it? Mainstream support for Cruz would be severely half-hearted, at best.It's important because on previous polling, Trump was getting enough support for a majority of delegates. But if he's not doing as well as they say, the chances of a contested convention increase accordingly. If they're overstating him in Florida for instance, and Rubio manages to snare some more support from other anti-Trumpers, he'd only need to score 1 vote more than Trump to get all 99 delegates there, which would change perspectives a little. Point being, I can still see ways for Trump to not get the nomination, and Cruz is now looking the stronger alternative.