Still doesn´t address my main point. Why don´t these guys release their tax returns voluntarily? Show us how overtaxed you are, just like the right wing keeps repeating over and over. What are you hiding? Again, hmmmm?
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Still doesn´t address my main point. Why don´t these guys release their tax returns voluntarily? Show us how overtaxed you are, just like the right wing keeps repeating over and over. What are you hiding? Again, hmmmm?
The projection involved in this is amazing.
He knows he won't even get a hearing. This is Obama trying to show America, just how unreasonable Republicans are being...
Most of them do. Obviously Romney had an issue with it when confronted in 2012 and Trump probably will as well.
They normally do....candidates have been pretty good with tax returns for years now, Romney was the 1st candidate in recent memory to resist and play games. Ironically, his old man was one of the most transparent...he released 10+ years of returns
Issue being . . . maybe he´s not being forthcoming about the standard right wing line of overtaxation.
I don't know why this is a thing. Actually, I do. Its because the public at large is oblivious to the tax code. You pay 15% on long-term capital gains (but corporations pay 35%, so the 15% is double taxation but is the only part that shows up on you personal statement), you pay progressively up to 39.6% on income from wages, plus payroll tax. And then any state taxes over those. There's a million other specifics, but that is the gist of it.
So Trump, Romney, even Bush if he still makes his money from real-estate pay around 15%. I expect Ben Carson to have the highest effective rate if he gets a big head of neurology salary.
I barely care, if anything to see who has terrible personal finances. Ted Cruz had a very expensive loan on, which I thought was stupid.
Trump or Romney ? I know Trump swings to the liberal side on taxation. He's made numerous comments that if elected "The Hedge Fund guys will have to pay more".
That'e because it won't affect his own taxes.
He doesn't swing to the liberal side. He swings to the Trump side.
I love that argument
- Lets design the tax code so that reinvestment of profits has an incentive vs. paying them out
- Sounds smart, lets do it
- Oh, look at those hedge fund guys! They make millions in a year, opt to have it reinvested rather than paid out, but they're totally getting too sweet a deal
- Yeah, lets get after them!
Its not even one of those where the extra taxes generated are meaningful in the bigger picture, there aren't enough of these hedge fund billionaires to make it a big number. Its just that they're too rich, so people get upset.
Because the right wing makes it a thing. They never cease to scream about taxes. So let´s see, show us how overtaxed you are.
And this.
I thought it came about to show how small a rate Romney paid.
What would Warren know, anyway . . .
Warren Buffett, who is supporting Democrat Hillary Clinton for president, said he stands with fellow billionaire Donald Trump, a Republican, in calling for an end to a tax break helping private-equity and hedge-fund managers.
no projection at all.
Which in this case is close to the liberal side.
common sense might have something to do with it.
That´s more like the reason Mitt was never forthcoming, thus showing the never ending right wing tax babble to be bs.
It'd be a political point scoring. He knows his nominee won't get a hearing. He's trying to show the people that the Republicans will obstruct even if it is in their best interests. It'll be played as Republicans obstructing just because it's a democrat in the Whitehouse and not because of some ideological agenda. The message could resonate in the election.
Good strategy if anything.
It's high stakes poker with a small upside (point-scoring) and a terrible downside. The "moderate" GOPers support him, the right-wing Dems support him, and suddenly we have a 5-4 conservative lock on the court for years.
Fortunately it's Pie in the sky fanaticism that won't happen.
They won't. He won't even get a hearing let alone a vote.
They normally do....candidates have been pretty good with tax returns for years now, Romney was the 1st candidate in recent memory to resist and play games. Ironically, his old man was one of the most transparent...he released 10+ years of returns
By the way, Saint Ronnie, king of the overtaxed whiners, released one measly tax return in all his years. Gee, I wonder why.
Is wanting a living wage, health care which is a fundamental right and affordable education over the top expectations of the most prosperous country on earth?
I think you´re right in that it won´t happen, at least all of it, but I think it´s come a time where it´s worth a try to see how much of it we can reasonably get done. After all, we gave quite a go to Ayn Rand groupie, king of the non regulatory free market, cut taxes, guru, Alan Greenspan . . . and we we all saw where that ended up.
Yes.
lets agree to disagree then.
a number of people on here are interested in politics, but have little grasp of history.
RD and Raoul, as much as I love them, are both going over the same ground an awful lot of times in this thread. It's a decreasingly fun double act. I'm just hoping something happens to spice it up and the prospect of romance/sexual tension ensues.
The question is who is going to pay for it ? Hint, it won't be "Wall Street".
We all will pay for it. the thing is currently ordinary people are paying and getting feck all.
Are you actually saying it's fortunate unemployment won't go down?
Not sure how you might arrive at such a conclusion. It's already sub 5 right now which is excellent.
GOP Florida poll (post Bush quitting) just out, Trump leads Rubio by 16%... Kasich scores 7%.
We can't afford anything -
- Free in state college education - GTFO
- single payer universal healthcare - who's paying for it, you commie bastard
- benefits for those living in poverty - stop with the handouts...we can't afford it.
We found $2trillion to spend on a war that was a complete and utter failure.
- Free in state college education - GTFO
- single payer universal healthcare - who's paying for it, you commie bastard
- benefits for those living in poverty - stop with the handouts...we can't afford it.
We found $2trillion to spend on a war that was a complete and utter failure.
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