2013 Golf Majors

I imagine the committee are extremely pleased Guan still made the cut. Unlucky by Tiger but still fancy him to win it.
 
Tigers never won a major without a sub 70 before the weekend.......time to break that.
 
If he's dropped then I'll be blown away, but it looks like he's left them with little choice given the statement he made.

"So I went back to where I played it from, but I went two yards further back."

I would hate to see him DQ'd, but he really has made a feck up with that presser.
 
Its amazing how this wasnt picked up by an official at the time, even more so that nothing was said before he signed and handed in his scorecard
 
I don't think they'll take the interview as gospel, but surely they'll have to review the tapes.

The PGA haven't been afraid of making these calls before. Remember the guy was DQ'd for testing the sand a few years age in a major.
 
I don't think they'll take the interview as gospel, but surely they'll have to review the tapes.

The PGA haven't been afraid of making these calls before. Remember the guy was DQ'd for testing the sand a few years age in a major.

The Masters isn't a regular PGA Tour event, and nor are any of the other three Majors. They do employ PGA Tour/European Tour officials, though.
 
just got in the official site: http://www.augusta.com/

it's funny how they don't talk about cabrera even though he is sharing the fourth position, while they talk about players that arent even close to him

i remember this happening a few years ago, when he won it.

selfcentered arent they?
 
just got in the official site: http://www.augusta.com/

it's funny how they don't talk about cabrera even though he is sharing the fourth position, while they talk about players that arent even close to him

i remember this happening a few years ago, when he won it.

selfcentered arent they?

It's always the same, mate. Television broadcasters always follow the main draws, and suffice to say, Angel Cabrera isn't high on their priority list. Jason Dufner and Ryan Moore are two who are within a few shots of the lead and I don't recall seeing a single shot by either of them so far. And I've been watching pretty much every minute of the coverage so far.
 
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Tiger is too big of a draw for them to disqualify. No chance of that happening.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who is playing and made that same shot, the rules are the rules and for me, Woods should be disqualified, otherwise it will set a precedent where others will do it in future tournaments and will use what happened to Woods in their defense should he not be disqualified. Cheated on his wife, and he is now cheating against his fellow professionals, what a low-life.
 
Well it's 8.45am local time at Augusta now so a decision must be imminent.

Frankly, whether we believe him to be right or wrong, I cannot see the organisers disqualifying him. Tiger, and let's not forget he's well in the mix now and playing his best golf in years, is a massive draw for television companies and is arguably bigger than the game of golf itself. It would be the biggest controversy to ever hit the game if Woods was disqualified today. After yesterday's debacle, I'm sure the organisers would prefer not to court more criticism.
 
just got in the official site: http://www.augusta.com/

it's funny how they don't talk about cabrera even though he is sharing the fourth position, while they talk about players that arent even close to him

i remember this happening a few years ago, when he won it.

selfcentered arent they?

It's because (like when he won it), the chances are he isn't going to be up there at the end, so they won't waste their screen time on him. If he starts well today though they'll start showing him.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who is playing and made that same shot, the rules are the rules and for me, Woods should be disqualified, otherwise it will set a precedent where others will do it in future tournaments and will use what happened to Woods in their defense should he not be disqualified. Cheated on his wife, and he is now cheating against his fellow professionals, what a low-life.

You don't really think he was cheating do you? You're allowed to place the ball further back, it just needs to be in line. At worst I think he's misinterpreted the rules.

At worst he's hiding in plain sight.
 
It's always the same, mate. Television broadcasters always follow the main draws, and suffice to say, Angel Cabrera isn't high on their priority list. Jason Dufner and Ryan Moore are two who are within a few shots of the lead and I don't recall seeing a single shot by either of them so far. And I've been watching pretty much every minute of the coverage so far.

oh, i understand that mate, television, money and all that, but i wasnt talking about TV, i was talking about the official website of the tournament

a tournament that Cabrera won in 2009, that must have hurt :smirk:
 
It's because (like when he won it), the chances are he isn't going to be up there at the end, so they won't waste their screen time on him. If he starts well today though they'll start showing him.


You don't really think he was cheating do you? You're allowed to place the ball further back, it just needs to be in line. At worst I think he's misinterpreted the rules.

At worst he's hiding in plain sight.

A World number one "misinterprets the rules." Come on Liam, no-one is that stupid, least alone Woods. He knew what he was doing all along.
 
You're allowed to place the ball further back, it just needs to be in line.

Well then he's definitely in the shit because he went back in line of his original shot, not the line the ball took when entering the water. If he was to go further back but in line, he'd have been taking his drop shot somewhere under the grandstand at the 15th, to the left of the pin (as you're hitting the shot.)

Strictly speaking, he's in the wrong. I doubt he'll be punished, though.
 
Well then he's definitely in the shit because he went back in line of his original shot, not the line the ball took when entering the water. If he was to go further back but in line, he'd have been taking his drop shot somewhere under the grandstand at the 15th, to the left of the pin (as you're hitting the shot.)

Strictly speaking, he's in the wrong. I doubt he'll be punished, though.

Exactly, if he hit the ball from the same place, it might have done exactly the same thing. However, bringing his ball back a whole two yards, makes sure the ball has no contact with the pin and thus, will give him a chance to get his hole. He bent the rules to suit him. As you said, he will get away with it because of who he is.
 
A World number one "misinterprets the rules." Come on Liam, no-one is that stupid, least alone Woods. He knew what he was doing all along.

I actually meant to say 'accidentally broke the rules', but from what nahealai said, I don't think that's the case.
Well then he's definitely in the shit because he went back in line of his original shot, not the line the ball took when entering the water. If he was to go further back but in line, he'd have been taking his drop shot somewhere under the grandstand at the 15th, to the left of the pin (as you're hitting the shot.)

Strictly speaking, he's in the wrong. I doubt he'll be punished, though.

So he's got to take it from the line it went into the water (off the pin)? Not the line he took the shot from.
 
A World number one "misinterprets the rules." Come on Liam, no-one is that stupid, least alone Woods. He knew what he was doing all along.

Do you think if Tiger bent the rules on purpose he would openly admit doing it in a press conference? Use your brain instead of your agenda against Tiger
 
I actually meant to say 'accidentally broke the rules', but from what nahealai said, I don't think that's the case.


So he's got to take it from the line it went into the water (off the pin)? Not the line he took the shot from.

What you are referring to (going back in line with the shot) is only applicable as far back as the original shot. You can't take the ball back past where the original strike was from or else players could use that to get themselves out of really bad situations. That rule is irrelevant here.

This is from the BBC summarising the situation

In the midst of yesterday's live text commentary, my colleague Ben Dirs described Woods taking that second shot from "pretty much where he was before".

Turns out that "pretty much" is not quite good enough according to the rulebook.

Woods carelessly revealed in his post-round interview that he had taken the ball back a couple of yards from where he hit the first shot on his second go.

Technically that should be a shot penalty. Technically, by signing for a card without that penalty, Woods could be disqualified.

Will 'technically' turn into reality? The Augusta officials are set to investigate and we are waiting to find out...
 
Do you think if Tiger bent the rules on purpose he would openly admit doing it in a press conference? Use your brain instead of your agenda against Tiger

I don't think he cheated on purpose. There's so many of these rules in golf that you often do these things without thinking. Tigers big feck up was admitting to what he did (thinking it was innocent) thus forcing the rules officials to make a decision.

Also the Masters made a meal of this by punishing the kid yesterday. If they let Tiger off now it'll look terrible even if it is the right thing to do.
 
Bizarre. Why would he admit taking the drop from the wrong place?
 
James Corrigan ‏@jcorrigangolf 1m
get ready for a big green shit bomb to explode. tiger's going to get off with a 2-shot penalty...
 
Bizarre. Why would he admit taking the drop from the wrong place?

Probably assumed it wasn't a problem.

James Corrigan ‏@jcorrigangolf 1m
get ready for a big green shit bomb to explode. tiger's going to get off with a 2-shot penalty...

The right decision, but after the way there was no wiggle room afforded to the lad yesterday I can see the shit hitting the fan. I said yesterday that that lad was harshly treated and wouldn't be treated like that if it was a senior golfer and I think I've just been proven right.
 
Do you think if Tiger bent the rules on purpose he would openly admit doing it in a press conference? Use your brain instead of your agenda against Tiger

With the cameras the sporting world has to offer, it would have been picked up anytime. Secondly, I dislike any form of cheating in sports, whether it is Busquets, Ronaldo or Young in Football, Armstrong or Cancellara in the Tour De France or Woods in Golf. This is not an agenda against Woods. He is a good player, but he is not above the rules. So, use your brain before criticising those whom you think have an agenda against one particular person when it is in fact against cheating in sport in general.
 
ESPN reporting it as well, according to another board.
 
Rob Hodgetts ‏@RobHodgetts 38s
Tiger Woods given two-shot penalty. Rule changed a year ago by USGA, so not DQ for signing incorrect card.
 
With the cameras the sporting world has to offer, it would have been picked up anytime. Secondly, I dislike any form of cheating in sports, whether it is Busquets, Ronaldo or Young in Football, Armstrong or Cancellara in the Tour De France or Woods in Golf. This is not an agenda against Woods. He is a good player, but he is not above the rules. So, use your brain before criticising those whom you think have an agenda against one particular person when it is in fact against cheating in sport in general.

Making an error unawares to yourself is not cheating.
 
Right, back to the golf. Bubba Watson is after making a dream start. Three birdies from the first three holes. He's one over now. Conditions must be better so we could see somebody hit eight or nine under today.
 
Ah lads, come on now. Tiger knew full well what he was doing when he brought the ball two yards back. He knew he had three options for his drop and he used the one which he felt best suited him (as he's well entitled to do), however, he also bent the rules a little when he dropped where he did.

Deserved punishment in my book and he's lucky not to have been disqualified as have happened to others in previous cases.