Gaming 1836 - The Europa Universalis 4 Experiment (Hands-off) - Map & stats in second post - Final Map and Stats update - Timelapse video

It's still going, started in 1560 and it's now 1566. You're both mostly bled out, but it looks like @Wing Attack Plan R is going to win (could take bigger losses).

Wasnt confident at all on this war, but im surprised he could take bigger losses with my manpower traditions. We shouldnt have taken risks, shouldve called the Timurids in to make sure we got the job done. Going to be vulnerable to a hobbers backdoor now.
 
Wasnt confident at all on this war, but im surprised he could take bigger losses with my manpower traditions. We shouldnt have taken risks, shouldve called the Timurids in to make sure we got the job done. Going to be vulnerable to a hobbers backdoor now.
Posts that feel sexual but actually really are.
 
Presented without comment: @Solius Crusade against @Shakesey
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After @Solius and @Shakesey are all tired out and decimated from their war, would it be alright if my armies of friendly camels and donkeys swept in to mop up? Finish both of them off?
 
@Abizzz has been a naughty boy, and is now the target of a pretty big coalition. That means that if he attacks anyone, these guys will get involved.

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Looks like I made some decent gains, hopefully whoever rules me now is wise enough to sit out that coalition of envy. Welcome back @Dan, vote for your ally in any election!
 
Big thanks to @nimic for putting in the time and effort. Most entertaining thread in a long while.
 
What's the religious map like Nimic? Are we close to triggering a league war? They're always very entertaining.

Okay I'm going to stop there and write another update tomorrow, the one with maps and stats. But Crackers is probably too poor to afford a colony, so Organic Potatoes is the only one colonizing the Americas right now. He also just got the tech to unlock a new idea group (nobody else has done that), and he picked Expansion. That is going to give him even more colonists. If nobody else picks Exploration when they hit the 4th idea group, I suspect he's going to colonize half of America before anyone else has a chance to get there :eek:

(To explain colonization a bit: you send a colonist to make a colony, and then if it's in Africa/Asia it becomes part of your country. If it's in the New World (also Australia), when you get enough colonies next to each other they turn into a separate country that continues colonizing on its own. He's currently got three different ones)

To expand on this a little.. Organic Potatoes is going to be in a very strong position with the expansion + exploration combo. It basically sends his overseas expansion into overdrive by having two overseas focuses (at the cost of not having a more useful European-centric idea group)

The coloured areas below are colonial regions Nimic mentioned above, so if any countries secure enough colonies in any of these region, they create a semi-autonomous colonial nation. They're sort of like vassals in that they provide extra income, troops to fight, etc to their mother country, but they also expand and colonise to further their own growth and also can declare colonial wars independently.

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I'll include a religion map for the update today. Not quite religious war time yet

Looking forward to this, hopefully little Monaco is thriving to take my mind off the game :lol:
 
1565 - Map and Stats
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NOTE: I am going to add the numbers for any colonies you have to your own numbers for Development, Army Size, Naval Size.

1565 (Click the picture to make it bigger - you can also open/download all the maps so far and easily compare the progress)


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Lusatia is the Holy Roman Emperor (not one of you)

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All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces - I'm going to add any colonial nations you have to your total)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 699 (+272) <-- Note: with colonies included
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 696 (+153)
  3. Solius: 683 (+266)
  4. Hobbers: 615 (+68)
  5. Eboue: 555 (+194)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 525 (+81)
  7. adexkola: 522 (+178)
  8. Walrus: 470 (+102)
  9. Abizzz: 467 (+183)
  10. Tiber: 390 (+68)
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 92
  2. Walrus: 74
  3. Samid: 64
  4. Solius: 62
  5. Wing Attack Plan R: 59
  6. Welsh Wonder: 52
  7. Eboue: 48
  8. adexkola: 47
  9. BD: 46
  10. AnotherLondonManc: 46
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. BD: 82
  2. Solius: 71
  3. Abizzz: 66
  4. Organic Potatoes: 59
  5. Walrus: 58
  6. RedSky: 56
  7. Eboue: 47
  8. adexkola: 44
  9. AnotherLondonManc: 44
  10. BootsyCollins: 41
  11. hobbers: 41
  12. Samid: 41
Total Army size - I'm switching over to whole numbers, and adding colonies
  1. Solius: 155 000 (+59k)
  2. adexkola: 89 000 (+39k)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 87 000 (+40k) (with colonies)
  4. Eboue: 84 000 (+42k)
  5. Abizzz: 77 000 (+29k)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 74 000 (+26)
  7. BD: 73 000 (+14k)
  8. hobbers: 63 000 (+13k)
  9. P-Nut: 62 000 (+28k)
  10. Wing Attack Plan R: 58 000 (-13k <-- 6 years into a war with Walrus)
Total Navy Size - I'm adding colonies
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 105 (+34)
  2. Solius: 104 (+52)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 75 (+14) (with colonies)
  4. altodevil: 61 (+22)
  5. Welsh Wonder: 59 (+18)
  6. VeevaVee: 58 (+13)
  7. hobbers: 58 (+13)
  8. Igor Drefljak: 57 (+14)
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 51 (+13)
  10. BD: 50 (-2)
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 152 (+65)
  2. AnotherLondonManc: 101 (+26)
  3. P-Nut: 91 (+46)
  4. Organic Potatoes: 84 (+26)
  5. hobbers: 79 (+19)
  6. Welsh Wonder: 77 (+22)
  7. VeevaVee: 71 (+16)
  8. altodevil: 70 (+25)
  9. Eboue: 69 (+26)
  10. Abizzz: 69 (+39)
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

Everyone is at 21 except:

22: P-Nut
19: Walrus, Wing Attack Plan R
15: Dan (he got killed and brought back, I guess he forgot some stuff)

Most developed province You use Monarch Power to develop these. It gets more expensive to increase the higher it is.
  1. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 51 (+13)
  2. Cagliari (AnotherLondonManc): 50 (+22)
  3. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 50 (+3)
  4. Derby (altodevil): 46 (+25)
  5. Noamn (SilentWitness): 43 (+10)
  6. Metz (SilentWitness): 39 (+6)
  7. Roma (VeevaVee): 39 (+6)
  8. Auvergne (RedSky): 38 (+7)
  9. Morgannwg (Welsh Wonder): 37 (+27)
  10. Amsterdam (Kirk Duyt): 37 (+14)
Army losses (battles + attrition)
  1. Wing Attack Plan R: 561 000
  2. adexkola: 440 000
  3. Solius: 408 000
  4. Walrus: 402 000
  5. Abizzz: 366 000
  6. Shakesey: 357 000
  7. hobbers: 343 000
  8. Welsh Wonder: 303 000
  9. Salt Bailly: 293 000
  10. Eboue: 242 000
Naval losses
  1. Welsh Wonder: 111
  2. Shakesey: 63
  3. Igor Drefljak: 46
  4. altodevil: 40
  5. Organic Potatoes: 37
  6. RedSky: 36
  7. KirkDuyt: 32
  8. SilentWitness: 27
  9. Crackers: 27
  10. hobbers: 25

Religions

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Crackers, Solius, altodevil, Welsh Wonder, Vidyoyo, Samid, Abizzz, P-Nut, VeevaVee, KirkDuyt, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins, adexkola, SilentWitness, Andycoleno9
Protestant: Dr. Dwayne, PSV
Reformed: V.O., Dan
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, Tiber

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)

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Beyond Europe (click to expand) - I'll add more as you spread around the world. This map will be easier to read when you guys expand some more and start putting down your flags (and names).

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I'm realizing two things doing this.

1. I am extremely fecking happy the forum constantly autosaves a draft. I remember when it didn't do that, which was a time of despair.

2. I am absolutely crap at doing simple maths in my head.
 
Surprised andycole not in the great powers list
 
Looks like i'm making my way into the top 10's and to the ocean just in time to get ripped apart by some religious turmoil :lol:

Thanks for the updates @nimic!
 
Starting to feel like my empire is satisfied with where it is. Everyone around me is either allied, a bonafide super power, or @Shakesey

Nobody will invade my core provence with my ridiculous navy, and I seem to have lost the ambition I had early on.

Side note @nimic, for the next player analysis, could you include a prediction given your omnipresence and knowledge of them game? I'd be curious to know what you think will happen, and we can compare that with the end result
 
Starting to feel like my empire is satisfied with where it is. Everyone around me is either allied, a bonafide super power, or @Shakesey

Nobody will invade my core provence with my ridiculous navy, and I seem to have lost the ambition I had early on.

Side note @nimic, for the next player analysis, could you include a prediction given your omnipresence and knowledge of them game? I'd be curious to know what you think will happen, and we can compare that with the end result

I could try! I'll try to remember to add something like that.
 
As for the alliances, the Reformation is still under way, so some alliances could be split up. Even more so if we get a League War, which is basically the game's version of the Thirty Years War, with Europe dividing to support the Protestants or the Catholics in the Holy Roman Empire.

I always post this at the end of pages, so here it is if anyone missed it:

1472
1502
1531

NOTE: I am going to add the numbers for any colonies you have to your own numbers for Development, Army Size, Naval Size.

1565 (Click the picture to make it bigger - you can also open/download all the maps so far and easily compare the progress)


FtjTsxy.jpg


Lusatia is the Holy Roman Emperor (not one of you)

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All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces - I'm going to add any colonial nations you have to your total)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 699 (+272) <-- Note: with colonies included
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 696 (+153)
  3. Solius: 683 (+266)
  4. Hobbers: 615 (+68)
  5. Eboue: 555 (+194)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 525 (+81)
  7. adexkola: 522 (+178)
  8. Walrus: 470 (+102)
  9. Abizzz: 467 (+183)
  10. Tiber: 390 (+68)
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 92
  2. Walrus: 74
  3. Samid: 64
  4. Solius: 62
  5. Wing Attack Plan R: 59
  6. Welsh Wonder: 52
  7. Eboue: 48
  8. adexkola: 47
  9. BD: 46
  10. AnotherLondonManc: 46
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. BD: 82
  2. Solius: 71
  3. Abizzz: 66
  4. Organic Potatoes: 59
  5. Walrus: 58
  6. RedSky: 56
  7. Eboue: 47
  8. adexkola: 44
  9. AnotherLondonManc: 44
  10. BootsyCollins: 41
  11. hobbers: 41
  12. Samid: 41
Total Army size - I'm switching over to whole numbers, and adding colonies
  1. Solius: 155 000 (+59k)
  2. adexkola: 89 000 (+39k)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 87 000 (+40k) (with colonies)
  4. Eboue: 84 000 (+42k)
  5. Abizzz: 77 000 (+29k)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 74 000 (+26)
  7. BD: 73 000 (+14k)
  8. hobbers: 63 000 (+13k)
  9. P-Nut: 62 000 (+28k)
  10. Wing Attack Plan R: 58 000 (-13k <-- 6 years into a war with Walrus)
Total Navy Size - I'm adding colonies
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 105 (+34)
  2. Solius: 104 (+52)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 75 (+14) (with colonies)
  4. altodevil: 61 (+22)
  5. Welsh Wonder: 59 (+18)
  6. VeevaVee: 58 (+13)
  7. hobbers: 58 (+13)
  8. Igor Drefljak: 57 (+14)
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 51 (+13)
  10. BD: 50 (-2)
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 152 (+65)
  2. AnotherLondonManc: 101 (+26)
  3. P-Nut: 91 (+46)
  4. Organic Potatoes: 84 (+26)
  5. hobbers: 79 (+19)
  6. Welsh Wonder: 77 (+22)
  7. VeevaVee: 71 (+16)
  8. altodevil: 70 (+25)
  9. Eboue: 69 (+26)
  10. Abizzz: 69 (+39)
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

Everyone is at 21 except:

22: P-Nut
19: Walrus, Wing Attack Plan R
15: Dan (he got killed and brought back, I guess he forgot some stuff)

Most developed province You use Monarch Power to develop these. It gets more expensive to increase the higher it is.
  1. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 51 (+13)
  2. Cagliari (AnotherLondonManc): 50 (+22)
  3. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 50 (+3)
  4. Derby (altodevil): 46 (+25)
  5. Noamn (SilentWitness): 43 (+10)
  6. Metz (SilentWitness): 39 (+6)
  7. Roma (VeevaVee): 39 (+6)
  8. Auvergne (RedSky): 38 (+7)
  9. Morgannwg (Welsh Wonder): 37 (+27)
  10. Amsterdam (Kirk Duyt): 37 (+14)
Religions

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Crackers, Solius, altodevil, Welsh Wonder, Vidyoyo, Samid, Abizzz, P-Nut, VeevaVee, KirkDuyt, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins, adexkola, SilentWitness, Andycoleno9
Protestant: Dr. Dwayne, PSV
Reformed: V.O., Dan
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, Tiber

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)

rAXyX8u.jpg


Beyond Europe (click to expand) - I'll add more as you spread around the world. This map will be easier to read when you guys expand some more and start putting down your flags (and names).

j65tj5d.jpg


Players no longer with us
  • Stobzilla
  • Grib
  • Denis79
 
Starting to feel like my empire is satisfied with where it is. Everyone around me is either allied, a bonafide super power, or @Shakesey

Nobody will invade my core provence with my ridiculous navy, and I seem to have lost the ambition I had early on.

Side note @nimic, for the next player analysis, could you include a prediction given your omnipresence and knowledge of them game? I'd be curious to know what you think will happen, and we can compare that with the end result
:lol: :lol:
 
1472
1502
1531

NOTE: I am going to add the numbers for any colonies you have to your own numbers for Development, Army Size, Naval Size.

1565 (Click the picture to make it bigger - you can also open/download all the maps so far and easily compare the progress)


FtjTsxy.jpg


Lusatia is the Holy Roman Emperor (not one of you)

4U8bzf3.png


All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces - I'm going to add any colonial nations you have to your total)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 699 (+272) <-- Note: with colonies included
  2. Wing Attack Plan R: 696 (+153)
  3. Solius: 683 (+266)
  4. Hobbers: 615 (+68)
  5. Eboue: 555 (+194)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 525 (+81)
  7. adexkola: 522 (+178)
  8. Walrus: 470 (+102)
  9. Abizzz: 467 (+183)
  10. Tiber: 390 (+68)
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 92
  2. Walrus: 74
  3. Samid: 64
  4. Solius: 62
  5. Wing Attack Plan R: 59
  6. Welsh Wonder: 52
  7. Eboue: 48
  8. adexkola: 47
  9. BD: 46
  10. AnotherLondonManc: 46
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rivals. Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)
  1. BD: 82
  2. Solius: 71
  3. Abizzz: 66
  4. Organic Potatoes: 59
  5. Walrus: 58
  6. RedSky: 56
  7. Eboue: 47
  8. adexkola: 44
  9. AnotherLondonManc: 44
  10. BootsyCollins: 41
  11. hobbers: 41
  12. Samid: 41
Total Army size - I'm switching over to whole numbers, and adding colonies
  1. Solius: 155 000 (+59k)
  2. adexkola: 89 000 (+39k)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 87 000 (+40k) (with colonies)
  4. Eboue: 84 000 (+42k)
  5. Abizzz: 77 000 (+29k)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 74 000 (+26)
  7. BD: 73 000 (+14k)
  8. hobbers: 63 000 (+13k)
  9. P-Nut: 62 000 (+28k)
  10. Wing Attack Plan R: 58 000 (-13k <-- 6 years into a war with Walrus)
Total Navy Size - I'm adding colonies
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 105 (+34)
  2. Solius: 104 (+52)
  3. Organic Potatoes: 75 (+14) (with colonies)
  4. altodevil: 61 (+22)
  5. Welsh Wonder: 59 (+18)
  6. VeevaVee: 58 (+13)
  7. hobbers: 58 (+13)
  8. Igor Drefljak: 57 (+14)
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 51 (+13)
  10. BD: 50 (-2)
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 152 (+65)
  2. AnotherLondonManc: 101 (+26)
  3. P-Nut: 91 (+46)
  4. Organic Potatoes: 84 (+26)
  5. hobbers: 79 (+19)
  6. Welsh Wonder: 77 (+22)
  7. VeevaVee: 71 (+16)
  8. altodevil: 70 (+25)
  9. Eboue: 69 (+26)
  10. Abizzz: 69 (+39)
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. I'll go into a bit more detail about these when I do country-by-country updates a bit later today, but they're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

Everyone is at 21 except:

22: P-Nut
19: Walrus, Wing Attack Plan R
15: Dan (he got killed and brought back, I guess he forgot some stuff)

Most developed province You use Monarch Power to develop these. It gets more expensive to increase the higher it is.
  1. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 51 (+13)
  2. Cagliari (AnotherLondonManc): 50 (+22)
  3. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 50 (+3)
  4. Derby (altodevil): 46 (+25)
  5. Noamn (SilentWitness): 43 (+10)
  6. Metz (SilentWitness): 39 (+6)
  7. Roma (VeevaVee): 39 (+6)
  8. Auvergne (RedSky): 38 (+7)
  9. Morgannwg (Welsh Wonder): 37 (+27)
  10. Amsterdam (Kirk Duyt): 37 (+14)
Religions

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Crackers, Solius, altodevil, Welsh Wonder, Vidyoyo, Samid, Abizzz, P-Nut, VeevaVee, KirkDuyt, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins, adexkola, SilentWitness, Andycoleno9
Protestant: Dr. Dwayne, PSV
Reformed: V.O., Dan
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, Tiber

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)

rAXyX8u.jpg


Beyond Europe (click to expand) - I'll add more as you spread around the world. This map will be easier to read when you guys expand some more and start putting down your flags (and names).

j65tj5d.jpg


Players no longer with us
  • Stobzilla
  • Grib
  • Denis79
Who's that in South Africa!? Please say me :drool: