Gaming 1836 - The Europa Universalis 4 Experiment (Hands-off) - Map & stats in second post - Final Map and Stats update - Timelapse video

P-Nut said:
Cheers @hobbers for finally making me relevant. Hopefully we push on now and take some more of that central European land.

Might have taken it a bit far with changing religion though, I expect that to cause issues somewhere :lol:

@nimic by any chance is my upturn in fortunes due to finally getting a ruler with stats above 3?
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You're not at the bottom of the average ruler rankings, but you're closer to it than the top. Libero P-Nut is a pretty good 4-4-4, so it doesn't hurt.
 
BootsyCollins said:
Fingers crossed.
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You lost the green-striped provinces, I'm afraid! But at least it only cost you like 180k casualties (and the same on the other side).

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I just got into this game. Any of you nerds have a good little rundown of things I want to be mindful of as a beginner? I have experience playing Stellaris.
 
Eriku said:
I just got into this game. Any of you nerds have a good little rundown of things I want to be mindful of as a beginner? I have experience playing Stellaris.
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This is highly complex grand strategy game so it is hard to sum tips (because everything is important).
I can tell you few tips for specific country with which you decide to play.
My advice is Spain. Best country to start for a noob.

Look at @Solius. Never played a game and he is dominating a world right now with Spain:lol:
 
1707 - Map and Stats
1444 & country introductions
1472
1502 & country updates
1531
1565
1602 & country updates
1633
1668

1707 (Click the picture to make it bigger - you can also open/download all the maps so far and easily compare the progress)


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KirkDuyt (Konrad Theodoli) is the Holy Roman Emperor

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All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces - colonies contribute 50%)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 1999 (+376)
  2. RedSky: 1719 (+428)
  3. Solius: 1583 (+321)
  4. adexkola: 1406 (+404)
  5. BootsyCollins: 1356 (+157)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 1314 (+161)
  7. hobbers: 1167 (+147)
  8. SilentWitness: 1097 (+230)
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 1015 (+46)
  10. BD: 990 (-37)
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. Salt Bailly: 97
  2. Samid: 90
  3. Abizzz: 80
  4. adexkola: 75
  5. hobbers: 72
  6. BD: 64
  7. PSV: 63
  8. Organic Potatoes: 60
  9. AnotherLondonManc: 60
  10. Solius: 58
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rival countries.)
  1. Solius: 100
  2. adexkola: 73
  3. BD: 68
  4. Organic Potatoes: 65
  5. altodevil: 64
  6. SilentWitness: 62
  7. AnotherLondonManc: 54
  8. BootsyCollins: 52
  9. hobbers: 48
  10. Samid: 47
Total Army size (with colonies)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 457 000 (+152k)
  2. RedSky: 336 000 (+140k)
  3. hobbers: 309 000 (+117k) <- hobbers' army is smaller than that of the colonial empires, but his army is individually easily bigger than anyone elses, and he doesn't have to have any of it overseas
  4. adexkola: 302 000 (+151k)
  5. Solius: 261 000 (-17k)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 186 000 (+76k)
  7. Abizzz: 163 000 (+41k)
  8. BootsyCollins: 158 000 (+87k)
  9. Eboue: 141 000 (+10k)
  10. BD: 107 000 (-18k)
Total Navy Size (with colonies)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 385 (+146)
  2. Solius: 298 (+81)
  3. AnotherLondonManc: 184 (+17)
  4. RedSky: 182 (+53)
  5. hobbers: 172 (+77)
  6. altodevil: 159 (+77)
  7. adexkola: 138 (+31)
  8. Wing Attack Plan R: 114 (+42)
  9. BootsyCollins: 88 (+22)
  10. VeevaVee: 80 (+9)
Total monthly income (trade from the New World is flowing to Europe, and a lot of it is ending up in the English Channel trade node (which is an end-node by the design of the game, meaning it doesn't flow anywhere from it). @altodevil happens to have a very strong hold on trade in that trade node, and so is making more in trade than anyone, by far)
  1. Solius: 450 (+120)
  2. altodevil: 406 (+220)
  3. hobbers: 346 (+109)
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 262 (+95)
  5. Organic Potatoes: 231 (+40)
  6. Samid: 215 (+70)
  7. BootsyCollins: 208 (+70)
  8. Abizzz: 203 (+78)
  9. adexkola: 193 (+60)
  10. Eboue: 189 (+70)
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. They're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

Everyone is at 42 (max for the tech level), except:

38: Walrus
34: Shakesey

Most developed province You use Monarch Power to develop these. It gets more expensive to increase the higher it is.
  1. Cambrésis (Eboue): 64 (+5)
  2. Lublin (Samid): 61 (+10)
  3. Derby (altodevil): 60 (+5)
  4. Auvergne (RedSky): 60 (+3)
  5. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 59 (+53)
  6. Cagliari (AnotherLondonManc): 58 (+6)
  7. Noamn (SilentWitness): 58 (+5)
  8. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 58 (+1)
  9. Asturias (Solius): 56 (+4)
  10. Metz (SilentWitness): 54 (+3)

Army losses (battles + attrition) <- NOT including colonies
  1. Solius: 2 597 000
  2. adexkola: 1 484 000
  3. Abizzz: 1 410 000
  4. BD: 1 246 000
  5. hobbers: 1 173 000
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 1 128 000
  7. BootsyCollins: 1 125 000
  8. P-Nut: 995 000
  9. Eboue: 948 000

Naval losses <- NOT including colonies
  1. altodevil: 205
  2. KirkDuyt: 154
  3. Organic Potatoes: 153
  4. adexkola: 140
  5. Eboue: 133
  6. Igor Drefljak: 123
  7. Solius: 119
  8. BD: 102
  9. Walrus: 96
  10. RedSky: 91
Religions (changes in bold)

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Solius, altodevil, Samid, VeevaVee, KirkDuyt, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins
Protestant: PSV, Andycoleno9, adexkola,
Reformed: V.O., Abizzz, SilentWitness
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, Tiber, P-Nut

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)

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Beyond Europe (click!)

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The World

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Players no longer with us (8)
  • Stobzilla
  • Grib
  • Denis79
  • Dan x3
  • Vidyoyo x2
  • Dr. Dwayne
  • Welsh Wonder
  • Crackers

I just noticed I should probably have done the stats backwards, with the number first and then the name. I'm way too resistant to change to fix it now, but I'll make a mental note for any future Experiments.

Country updates to come later tonight.
 
Finally on a list, but it's army losses :lol:

Given that the others on the list are all in the top 8 (minus Bootsy) I'm going to take it as a positive :lol:
 
Also me being orthodox really stands out on that religious map, fully expect one of the religious nuts to have a pop soon.
 
Eriku said:
I just got into this game. Any of you nerds have a good little rundown of things I want to be mindful of as a beginner? I have experience playing Stellaris.
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There's a LOT of mechanics (as you'd expect from Paradox games). The wiki is very helpful. https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Europa_Universalis_4_Wiki

As Andy said, Spain (Castile or Aragon) would be a good choice for a beginner. A lot of variety with play there.

Have fun!
 
Looks like I finally took over those pesky Swiss. Worse comes to worse I'll hide in the alps.
 
nimic said:
1444 & country introductions
1472
1502 & country updates
1531
1565
1602 & country updates
1633
1668

1707 (Click the picture to make it bigger - you can also open/download all the maps so far and easily compare the progress)


eJpUTYA.jpg


KirkDuyt (Konrad Theodoli) is the Holy Roman Emperor

Vzis4IL.png


All of the following stats are Cafites-only.

Development (total value of provinces - colonies contribute 50%)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 1999 (+376)
  2. RedSky: 1719 (+428)
  3. Solius: 1583 (+321)
  4. adexkola: 1406 (+404)
  5. BootsyCollins: 1356 (+157)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 1314 (+161)
  7. hobbers: 1167 (+147)
  8. SilentWitness: 1097 (+230)
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 1015 (+46)
  10. BD: 990 (-37)
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. Salt Bailly: 97
  2. Samid: 90
  3. Abizzz: 80
  4. adexkola: 75
  5. hobbers: 72
  6. BD: 64
  7. PSV: 63
  8. Organic Potatoes: 60
  9. AnotherLondonManc: 60
  10. Solius: 58
Power Projection (how much you've bullied (war, insults, embargo, etc) rival countries.)
  1. Solius: 100
  2. adexkola: 73
  3. BD: 68
  4. Organic Potatoes: 65
  5. altodevil: 64
  6. SilentWitness: 62
  7. AnotherLondonManc: 54
  8. BootsyCollins: 52
  9. hobbers: 48
  10. Samid: 47
Total Army size (with colonies)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 457 000 (+152k)
  2. RedSky: 336 000 (+140k)
  3. hobbers: 309 000 (+117k) <- hobbers' army is smaller than that of the colonial empires, but his army is individually easily bigger than anyone elses, and he doesn't have to have any of it overseas
  4. adexkola: 302 000 (+151k)
  5. Solius: 261 000 (-17k)
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 186 000 (+76k)
  7. Abizzz: 163 000 (+41k)
  8. BootsyCollins: 158 000 (+87k)
  9. Eboue: 141 000 (+10k)
  10. BD: 107 000 (-18k)
Total Navy Size (with colonies)
  1. Organic Potatoes: 385 (+146)
  2. Solius: 298 (+81)
  3. AnotherLondonManc: 184 (+17)
  4. RedSky: 182 (+53)
  5. hobbers: 172 (+77)
  6. altodevil: 159 (+77)
  7. adexkola: 138 (+31)
  8. Wing Attack Plan R: 114 (+42)
  9. BootsyCollins: 88 (+22)
  10. VeevaVee: 80 (+9)
Total monthly income (trade from the New World is flowing to Europe, and a lot of it is ending up in the English Channel trade node (which is an end-node by the design of the game, meaning it doesn't flow anywhere from it). @altodevil happens to have a very strong hold on trade in that trade node, and so is making more in trade than anyone, by far)
  1. Solius: 450 (+120)
  2. altodevil: 406 (+220)
  3. hobbers: 346 (+109)
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 262 (+95)
  5. Organic Potatoes: 231 (+40)
  6. Samid: 215 (+70)
  7. BootsyCollins: 208 (+70)
  8. Abizzz: 203 (+78)
  9. adexkola: 193 (+60)
  10. Eboue: 189 (+70)
Ideas (these are basically upgrades you can take that come in Administrative, Diplomatic and Military, using the currency generated (generally) by the skills of your ruler. They're one way of measuring how well you're doing that doesn't necessarily relate directly to your number of provinces or the size of your armies. If you're conquering a lot you'll probably use a lot of Administrative power on making the new provinces cores, so maybe won't have as much to spend on new ideas)

Everyone is at 42 (max for the tech level), except:

38: Walrus
34: Shakesey

Most developed province You use Monarch Power to develop these. It gets more expensive to increase the higher it is.
  1. Cambrésis (Eboue): 64 (+5)
  2. Lublin (Samid): 61 (+10)
  3. Derby (altodevil): 60 (+5)
  4. Auvergne (RedSky): 60 (+3)
  5. Ayrshire (Organic Potatoes): 59 (+53)
  6. Cagliari (AnotherLondonManc): 58 (+6)
  7. Noamn (SilentWitness): 58 (+5)
  8. Henegouwn (SilentWitness): 58 (+1)
  9. Asturias (Solius): 56 (+4)
  10. Metz (SilentWitness): 54 (+3)

Army losses (battles + attrition) <- NOT including colonies
  1. Solius: 2 597 000
  2. adexkola: 1 484 000
  3. Abizzz: 1 410 000
  4. BD: 1 246 000
  5. hobbers: 1 173 000
  6. AnotherLondonManc: 1 128 000
  7. BootsyCollins: 1 125 000
  8. P-Nut: 995 000
  9. Eboue: 948 000

Naval losses <- NOT including colonies
  1. altodevil: 205
  2. KirkDuyt: 154
  3. Organic Potatoes: 153
  4. adexkola: 140
  5. Eboue: 133
  6. Igor Drefljak: 123
  7. Solius: 119
  8. BD: 102
  9. Walrus: 96
  10. RedSky: 91
Religions (changes in bold)

Catholic: Organic Potatoes, BD, Solius, altodevil, Samid, VeevaVee, KirkDuyt, Eboue, Igor Drefljak, AnotherLondonManc, BootsyCollins
Protestant: PSV, Andycoleno9, adexkola,
Reformed: V.O., Abizzz, SilentWitness
Sunni: Wing Attack Plan R, Walrus, Shakesey
Orthodox: hobbers, Salt Bailly, Tiber, P-Nut

Religious Map of Europe (click to expand)

KijNycE.jpg


Beyond Europe (click!)

ipJDASt.jpg


OSC0GJ3.png


The World

Deks7Vz.jpg


Players no longer with us (8)
  • Stobzilla
  • Grib
  • Denis79
  • Dan x3
  • Vidyoyo x2
  • Dr. Dwayne
  • Welsh Wonder
  • Crackers

I just noticed I should probably have done the stats backwards, with the number first and then the name. I'm way too resistant to change to fix it now, but I'll make a mental note for any future Experiments.

Country updates to come later tonight.
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Is that me in Sumatra?
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Huh, Ireland is pro level. Don't do it. :lol:
https://youtube.com/@LudietHistoria

This is a guy with good tutorials.
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I think you're aiming a bit high for a complete newbie with that guy. I don't think watching him is going to make anyone learn the game at a basic level.

Edit: unless he has some videos that are specifically for new players?
 
nimic said:
I think you're aiming a bit high for a complete newbie with that guy. I don't think watching him is going to make anyone learn the game at a basic level.

Edit: unless he has some videos that are specifically for new players?
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He has. About game mechanics. Nevertheless, Ireland is not a country with which you go and learn stuff.:D
 
Eriku said:
Cheers for the link!

Tutorial made me Irish, so potatos not paella for me in my first playthrough ;(
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Here's is a super-duper simple list of the bare minimum you should do when you begin:

Pause
  • Send your merchant to the nearest trade node
  • Set your rivals and send your diplomats to make alliances and improve relations
  • Set your monarch point focus
  • Mothball your cogs and forts
  • Set army maintenence to 25%
Unpause
  • Max your army and navy to force limit (not beyond)
  • Send a diplomat to country you want to invade, build a spy network of 20 and fabricate a claim on a province
  • Set army maintenance to 100%
  • Activate forts
  • Attack
  • Peace - demand territories
 
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