Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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MaxiPaxi said:
There is no such thing as overpaying when it's a supply and demand market.

If you walk into a shop and pay £100 for a fecking Mars bar, then you're overpaying. I do not know how people do not understand this elementary thing.

We need a good striker but good strikers are hard to come by. So we have to pay the premium price, because, you know, a good striker is not a fecking chocolate bar and you can just pick one up at your local corner shop.

Real Madrid hold all the cards as they do not need to sell so they can name thier price. What the feck do expect Perez to do? Gift wrap the cnut and give him to us for €30 million euro as gesture of good will?

When you get passed all that, you have to realise that every single person who knows who Manchester United are, knows that we're swimming in fecking cash. Like drowing in gold ffs. What do you experts expect the selling clubs to do? Just fecking give their commodities to us for a fecking rock bottom price. Thats not how it works. It really doesn't take a genius to work this out cause I'm fecking ain't!
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Correct.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
There is no such thing as overpaying when it's a supply and demand market.

If you walk into a shop and pay £100 for a fecking Mars bar, then you're overpaying. I do not know how people do not understand this elementary thing.

We need a good striker but good strikers are hard to come by. So we have to pay the premium price, because, you know, a good striker is not a fecking chocolate bar and you can just pick one up at your local corner shop.

Real Madrid hold all the cards as they do not need to sell so they can name thier price. What the feck do expect Perez to do? Gift wrap the cnut and give him to us for €30 million euro as gesture of good will?

When you get passed all that, you have to realise that every single person who knows who Manchester United are, knows that we're swimming in fecking cash. Like drowing in gold ffs. What do you experts expect the selling clubs to do? Just fecking give their commodities to us for a fecking rock bottom price. Thats not how it works. It really doesn't take a genius to work this out cause I'm fecking ain't!
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Bayern are swimming in cash too yet manage not to overpay usually.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
They love Morata on the juventuz forums. Had a wee look and they all think and hope he will do well.

Had a look on RAWK they're under the impression that he will be a good signing too.

Some shed enders prefer him to Lukaku.

All in all everyone is seemed to be in agreement that we've got a good player.
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Yes we have got a good player. But what use is having a good player when we have to spend €70m of the Glazer's money to get him? I'd be much happier as a United fan if we had billions of pounds in an offshore bank account accumulating interest. Nothing in football is more exciting than saving money.
 
Delighted if we get this done. With Morata you are also paying for his potential and he could be world class striker. It isn't for sure, but nothing in life is.

Like someone already said here, he is worth the risk.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
There is no such thing as overpaying when it's a supply and demand market.

If you walk into a shop and pay £100 for a fecking Mars bar, then you're overpaying. I do not know how people do not understand this elementary thing.

We need a good striker but good strikers are hard to come by. So we have to pay the premium price, because, you know, a good striker is not a fecking chocolate bar and you can just pick one up at your local corner shop.

Real Madrid hold all the cards as they do not need to sell so they can name thier price. What the feck do expect Perez to do? Gift wrap the cnut and give him to us for €30 million euro as gesture of good will?

When you get passed all that, you have to realise that every single person who knows who Manchester United are, knows that we're swimming in fecking cash. Like drowing in gold ffs. What do you experts expect the selling clubs to do? Just fecking give their commodities to us for a fecking rock bottom price. Thats not how it works. It really doesn't take a genius to work this out cause I'm fecking ain't!
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Finally someone making sense. This is why we got a bit fecked when Zlatan got injured because clubs know we must sign a striker now and they can make us pay whatever they want as they know we can't go into a season with what we have.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
Yes we have got a good player. But what use is having a good player when we have to spend €70m of the Glazer's money to get him? I'd be much happier as a United fan if we had billions of pounds in an offshore bank account accumulating interest. Nothing in football is more exciting than saving money.
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If we don't win the net spend league i swear i'll write some sort of letter.
 
whatwha said:
Bayern are swimming in cash too yet manage not to overpay usually.
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Bayern have a monopoly in their country. Their closest rivals sell players to them out of fear of them eventually leaving on a free.

Also, again, this is not hard to understand. Bayern aren't in demand for players cause they've got all the fecking players. Where as we cleary need them.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
Yes we have got a good player. But what use is having a good player when we have to spend €70m of the Glazer's money to get him? I'd be much happier as a United fan if we had billions of pounds in an offshore bank account accumulating interest. Nothing in football is more exciting than saving money.
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I know that's the thing - we're seeing money being invested back into the club yet people are still not happy.
 
Donovan_red7 said:
Yeah but then people have to try and survive the "banter" from their arsenal supporting mates, or the memes from troll football about how much money United is spending. Literally the only reason people concern themselves about how much money we spend is because they're concerned about what fans of other teams say.
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Spot on.
 
cheeky_backheel said:
Cos they have the luxury of picking the best of all the local talent
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Vidal 37 million euros, Alonso 9 million, Lewandowski free, Hummels 35 millions, Thiago 25 millions, Götze 37 millions. They simply never pay overprices, local or not. I don't know how they do it but i would like to know. ;)
 
Hanky panky said:
Vidal 37 million euros, Alonso 9 million, Lewandowski free, Hummels 35 millions, Thiago 25 millions, Götze 37 millions. They simply never pay overprices, local or not. I don't know how they do it but i would like to know. ;)
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Again Alonso was nothing out of the ordinary. We paid similar for BFS. He just didn't work out.

Thiago and Gotze were clauses which they paid as could any other club.

Lewandowski agreed to move to Bayern because Dortmund stood firm for once and took the hit. The didn't want to do that again with Hummels as it was clearly he was going one way or another.
 
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Hanky panky said:
Vidal 37 million euros, Alonso 9 million, Lewandowski free, Hummels 35 millions, Thiago 25 millions, Götze 37 millions. They simply never pay overprices, local or not. I don't know how they do it but i would like to know. ;)
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There's also the fact of what the players want, if a player wants a move to the club it dramatically strengthens the position of the bidding club.
 
Hanky panky said:
Vidal 37 million euros, Alonso 9 million, Lewandowski free, Hummels 35 millions, Thiago 25 millions, Götze 37 millions. They simply never pay overprices, local or not. I don't know how they do it but i would like to know. ;)
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It's as much timely as negotiating skills.
 
ivaldo said:
It's as much timely as negotiating skills.
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Also, by not letting your squad degrade like we did, and maintaining a steady flow of younger talents, you are under less pressure to sign proven players like we currently are. Instead, you would be able to sign 2-4 prospective talents for lower fees every summer and even at 50% success will still maintain a quality squad.
 
Hanky panky said:
Vidal 37 million euros, Alonso 9 million, Lewandowski free, Hummels 35 millions, Thiago 25 millions, Götze 37 millions. They simply never pay overprices, local or not. I don't know how they do it but i would like to know. ;)
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Bayern, like Juventus, are very good at jumping on opportunities to sign good players on the cheap when they present themselves. But both clubs are in a position to be patient and wait for these opportunities. They already have a very strong and stable squad that doesn't need major work. We don't have that luxury, we need players now no matter the cost. We need to build a squad that is on par with them, and then we can be more relaxed in our approach to strengthening each summer. Of course, it would also help if players from our rivals ran down their contracts to join us, like Dortmund players do to join Bayern.
 
marukomu said:
Still won't be convinced until I see him holding the shirt.
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Same.

Madrid will have to replace him and the market is dry for strikers so they'll probably have to pay a similar £70m fee for a 'backup' striker to Benzema because he isn't being dropped anytime soon. Makes no sense to sell him.

They'll try to keep him until next summer when they go all out for Mbappe.
 
Castia said:
Same.

Madrid will have to replace him and the market is dry for strikers so they'll probably have to pay a similar £70m fee for a 'backup' striker to Benzema because he isn't being dropped anytime soon. Makes no sense to sell him.
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No, they'll go all out and break the transfer record to bring in the next galactico. That's the way Real work.
 
I'd be buzzing if/when he signs.
ps. why isn't Dybala also linked with more clubs?
 
AndyJ1985 said:
Bayern, like Juventus, are very good at jumping on opportunities to sign good players on the cheap when they present themselves. But both clubs are in a position to be patient and wait for these opportunities. They already have a very strong and stable squad that doesn't need major work. We don't have that luxury, we need players now no matter the cost. We need to build a squad that is on par with them, and then we can be more relaxed in our approach to strengthening each summer. Of course, it would also help if players from our rivals ran down their contracts to join us, like Dortmund players do to join Bayern.
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Agree. Madrid, Bayern and Juventus have the best squads in their league and only need to buy young talents to replace the old ones gradually. All the PL teams have a long way to go to reach that level. We can't cherry pick the best players from our league as well.
 
Member 5225 said:
I'd be buzzing if/when he signs.
ps. why isn't Dybala also linked with more clubs?
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I was wondering the same but apparently he has mind set on Spain (Barca).

Morata will be a great signing for us. Any deal we can make with Madrid, and it means we get a talented player from them and keep De Gea is an automatic victory.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
Bayern, like Juventus, are very good at jumping on opportunities to sign good players on the cheap when they present themselves. But both clubs are in a position to be patient and wait for these opportunities. They already have a very strong and stable squad that doesn't need major work. We don't have that luxury, we need players now no matter the cost. We need to build a squad that is on par with them, and then we can be more relaxed in our approach to strengthening each summer. Of course, it would also help if players from our rivals ran down their contracts to join us, like Dortmund players do to join Bayern.
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cheeky_backheel said:
Also, by not letting your squad degrade like we did, and maintaining a steady flow of younger talents, you are under less pressure to sign proven players like we currently are. Instead, you would be able to sign 2-4 prospective talents for lower fees every summer and even at 50% success will still maintain a quality squad.
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Yup. To varying degrees we've been a badly run, mismanaged club for a long time. That comes with a price.

Bayern show the value of having people in charge who know what they're doing.
 
Camy89 said:
...where did you pluck this from?
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From the many posters saying Mourinho can't hold a job for more than three years.

I was taking the piss, in case you didn't notice. I guess I can't blame you given the amount of crap flying around.
 
whatwha said:
By overpaying we add to the standard of overpaying for every other player in the future, which means we can't afford to make our squad as good as possible. Even Utd have a limited transfer budget.
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If we feel the demand of the selling club unjustified or buying the player would impede our ability overall to improve the squad, I'm sure we'd pull out and look for alternatives.

Despite what people like to believe, Ed Woodward didnt help the Glazer takeover United and become its CEO without two brain cells to rub together.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
No, they'll go all out and break the transfer record to bring in the next galactico. That's the way Real work.
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But they'll need a striker so who will that be? can you imagine the price of a 'galactico' level striker like maybe Lewandowski? they'll want about 160m
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
If we feel the demand of the selling club unjustified or buying the player would impede our ability overall to improve the squad, I'm sure we'd pull out and look for alternatives.

Despite what people like to believe, Ed Woodward didnt help the Glazer takeover United and become its CEO without two brain cells to rub together.
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Investment banker to boot. Must have been shite at it mind. Could have been earning much more than a shitty CEO does.
 
Will Absolute said:
Yup. To varying degrees we've been a badly run, mismanaged club for a long time. That comes with a price.

Bayern show the value of having people in charge who know what they're doing.
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Bayern also shows what a monopoly is like in a domestic league. Their influence goes beyond their club and into the German FA.
 
Will Absolute said:
Yup. To varying degrees we've been a badly run, mismanaged club for a long time. That comes with a price.

Bayern show the value of having people in charge who know what they're doing.
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Bayern have 'strong armed' their way to the Bundesliga' best players for years being the most famous and rich club in Germany, they took who they wanted because 'smaller' teams (even their biggest rival Dortmund tbh) couldn't turn down their offers.

In the Premier League Southampton are rejecting £60m bids for a pretty mediocre defender, its like a completely different sport we're playing in England.
 
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