Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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Ok let's just put this out there

Chelsea - Costa, Hazard (Lukaku?)
Spurs - Kane, Alli
City - Aguero, Jesus
Arsenal - Sanchez, Giroud
Liverpool - Coutinho, Mane, Firmino
United - Morata (Rashford, Martial)

Do we honestly think that if we bring in Morata that our forward line is going to compete with Chelsea, Spurs and City and surpass them?

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70 million for Morata?
I give up on football. Don't know how Real have fooled people into thinking he's this top player. He's done nothing special in his career to date and doesn't have anything particularly special in his tool box. If we go through with this it'd be a terrible value for money deal. 70 million for a player Real have never considered more than a back up.
 
It's strange. And he's still only 24.
People shit themselves at the 'Madrid reject' idea. But the fact is he scored 20 goals in one of the the most competitive forward lines there is, he is Spain's number 9 and he wasn't too shabby for Juve either.
 
70 million for Morata?
I give up on football. Don't know how Real have fooled people into thinking he's this top player. He's done nothing special in his career to date and doesn't have anything particularly special in his tool box. If we go through with this it'd be a terrible value for money deal. 70 million for a player Real have never considered more than a back up.
Who can we buy that would walk into Madrid's first team though?
 
70 million for Morata?
I give up on football. Don't know how Real have fooled people into thinking he's this top player. He's done nothing special in his career to date and doesn't have anything particularly special in his tool box. If we go through with this it'd be a terrible value for money deal. 70 million for a player Real have never considered more than a back up.
It's 60 million.
 
60 million euros would be the highest I'd go and I wouldn't want us to spend more on him. It's more than enough in today's market. I wish we'd just move on instead of letting Real milk us yet again.
 
Im giving this one my almost worthless seal of approval. I think he could be a big player for us. People are moaning that we could get more established players with stronger records for that money but we do our best business when we give up and coming players a platform to reach their potential.
 
60 million euros would be the highest I'd go and I wouldn't want us to spend more on him. It's more than enough in today's market. I wish we'd just move on instead of letting Real milk us yet again.

Move on to who? I wasn't initially that keen but he's the best available and if you watch his videos you can see his quality.
 
Morata is a cracking player. If we sign him a lot of people are going to look back on this thread and feel silly
 
Who can we buy that would walk into Madrid's first team though?
That's not relevant. It's the fact he's not a prize asset at real, so why the feck are we contemplating spending 60-70 million on him. How stupid are we? I very rarely lose my rag with transfer fees cos it doesn't effect me but this is completely fecking stupid on so many levels.
Like I know transfer fees have inflated but even still there are still only about 4/5 players who have cost that amount and all of them piss all over Morata in terms of ability and were actually prize players at their clubs.
 
It doesn't really work like that though. Chelsea had Costa (who's leaving) and Hazard a couple of years back and finished 10th. So yeah we could compete with those teams.

Well it does... do you expect Kane and co to not score more than our forwards? I certainly do not believe that our striking options are going to be enough to better Spurs, Chelsea or City.

Costa is leaving? To where? He'll only move to Atletico Madrid who are transfer banned. He's staying and he might have Lukaku with him if rumours are to be believed.

We won't beat them for goals next season.

We'd need a number 10/wide player too. Sanchez would be the dream.

Now if we pulled a RVP again and signed Sanchez that for me would be a massive game changer and would improve our attack to the point where it could compete. I don't see it happening though.

Maybe not, we'd have to see, but who do you suggest we bring in instead then? Messi, Lewandowski etc aren't available. Anyway, there are 11 players in a team (and of course a manager), having the absolute best player for player forward line is not what wins you a league. The question you shoud ask is is that forward line good enough to put teams like West Ham, Stoke and Burnley to the sword. I'd say it is.

I think we should have sorted the Griezmann transfer sooner than we did. I now think we should focus our attention on other undeniably top quality players like Sanchez of Arsenal.

Having the best players absolutely wins you the league! That's a bizarre statement. If you do not have a striker or attack that is regularly scoring goals you cannot win matches and so cannot win leagues. Historically 99% of the time I am correct in saying the best players in forward positions can win you leagues Leicester City were the 1%.

Chelsea this year had the best attacking player in Eden Hazard and won the league the also had one of the best strikers too. Without those players they would not have won so you cannot say it doesn't win you the league.

You need players who consistently perform at the highest level even to beat your lower table teams.



Since you're including the likes of Hazard and Coutinho - United: Morata, Rashford, Martial, Zlatan, Mata, Mkhitaryan, possibly Perisic/Costa... If they'll click together (whatever the combination), it will be quite tasty.

I don't think Zlatan will stay and Mkhitaryan hasn't scored enough to be included. I agree however I should have included Mata who is a consistent enough scorer to be on the list of attackers for us.
 
70 million for Morata?
I give up on football. Don't know how Real have fooled people into thinking he's this top player. He's done nothing special in his career to date and doesn't have anything particularly special in his tool box. If we go through with this it'd be a terrible value for money deal. 70 million for a player Real have never considered more than a back up.
Uh because of Ronaldo bale benzema.

Only his price and goal scoring numbers are a concsrn. Rest everything mourinho will take care off.
 
I really dont have an opinion on him, i feel nothing. Think he is overpriced and i would be positively surprised if he scored more than 20 goals next season in the league. He is a good player, but not a great striker who i would rely on to score and be our main man week in week out. Lets see
 
Morata is a cracking player. If we sign him a lot of people are going to look back on this thread and feel silly

Why would I feel silly for doubting that a 24 year old squad player is suddenly going to lead United and be our 30 goal a season man in his debut season?

Morata is a good player, he looks promising but he is not world class, he has not shown beyond doubt that he is worth £60m and he hasn't even shown Real Madrid enough to displace Benzema.

People are over rating him. We should be saying that he is a decent young enough player who we hope can get us between 15-20 extra goals next season which would be a much more realistic evaluation of a player who will face many challenges in a debut premier league season in a team that finished 6th.

He is not going to be playing with Kronos, Modric, Ronaldo, Bale etc he'll have Rashford, Herrra, Pogba consistently with him who aren't bad players but let's get real here it's a massive gulf in class.
 
The fact the Caf consensus is that Morata is not worth the fee leads me to believe he'll do well for us.

10 years reading this forum and I won't be falling for the hype machine again.

Yeah its pretty weird. He scores a lot of goals relative to his minutes. He will be a star wherever he goes.

 
Why would I feel silly for doubting that a 24 year old squad player is suddenly going to lead United and be our 30 goal a season man in his debut season?

Morata is a good player, he looks promising but he is not world class, he has not shown beyond doubt that he is worth £60m and he hasn't even shown Real Madrid enough to displace Benzema.

People are over rating him. We should be saying that he is a decent young enough player who we hope can get us between 15-20 extra goals next season which would be a much more realistic evaluation of a player who will face many challenges in a debut premier league season in a team that finished 6th.

He is not going to be playing with Kronos, Modric, Ronaldo, Bale etc he'll have Rashford, Herrra, Pogba consistently with him who aren't bad players but let's get real here it's a massive gulf in class.

The bolded is correct, but this thread is filled with posters either treating him as the next Ronaldo, or calling him the Spanish Welbeck.

Morata will only be a good signing if we get more attacking reinforcements in the summer. He has not shown the ability to be a prolific goalscorer. Just a consistent goalscorer as part of an overall attacking unit.

He'd be a good player to step into Benzema's shoes since he is getting old. But Zidane loves Benzema even though he has been shite this season.
 
Just so people are clear on my opinion of Morata.

He's a perfectly good player and has potential to be a very good one. He is an acceptble striker signing on paper as he has desirable qualities like his physical attributes and his above average technical skills for a taller striker BUT he is not proven and I do think it is entirely unreasonable to expect him to lead our line and replace Zlatans contributions with a 30 goal season and therefore I do not understand where people's confidence in him purely for next season is coming from.

In 3 years I feel he could be at the level of 30 goal striker.

If he is our only attacking addition I think we will struggle a bit up top next season.
 
Well it does... do you expect Kane and co to not score more than our forwards? I certainly do not believe that our striking options are going to be enough to better Spurs, Chelsea or City.

Costa is leaving? To where? He'll only move to Atletico Madrid who are transfer banned. He's staying and he might have Luka

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Why would I feel silly for doubting that a 24 year old squad player is suddenly going to lead United and be our 30 goal a season man in his debut season?

Morata is a good player, he looks promising but he is not world class, he has not shown beyond doubt that he is worth £60m and he hasn't even shown Real Madrid enough to displace Benzema.

People are over rating him. We should be saying that he is a decent young enough player who we hope can get us between 15-20 extra goals next season which would be a much more realistic evaluation of a player who will face many challenges in a debut premier league season in a team that finished 6th.

He is not going to be playing with Kronos, Modric, Ronaldo, Bale etc he'll have Rashford, Herrra, Pogba consistently with him who aren't bad players but let's get real here it's a massive gulf in class.
Oh come on, he's a decent player and a potential better than lukaku and belotti, yes goals are important but so is the play style and his style build up will result in more goals from others forwards and midfeilders as well which was missing this season. 20 goals is what he can get when used right, may be more but he can also make goals for players like martial and mkh and rashford and pogba. Also we can well get griezman again next year if he moves or even in January if Costa is willing to move there.

We won't be regretting after signing him because as a focal point he would massively improve the build up and abilities to beat high press.

Price is the only issue with goal tally which can improve.
 
The bolded is correct, but this thread is filled with posters either treating him as the next Ronaldo, or calling him the Spanish Welbeck.

Morata will only be a good signing if we get more attacking reinforcements in the summer. He has not shown the ability to be a prolific goalscorer. Just a consistent goalscorer as part of an overall attacking unit.

He'd be a good player to step into Benzema's shoes since he is getting old. But Zidane loves Benzema even though he has been shite this season.
He will be a focal point if the attack like Diego Costa and has the ability to be direct with holding the ball and be creative.
 
Should look at torres' stats pre liverpool.

Makes me think Morata could be on a verge of a breakthrough season in terms of goal scoring.
 
I never rated Benzema as highly as others do and we are going for a player that's his back-up. With that said I'm almost always wrong about our transfers. I thought Falcao would be a hit. Cleverley the next Scholes, Veron our future Robson and Forlan our new Cantona. So hopefully I'll eat my own sheit this christmas.
 
I only want him here if he's totally up for it, we can't afford to have another situation like Di Maria.
 
I doubt mourinho would be bidding for him if he knew Morata had no interest in the move.
 
I never rated Benzema as highly as others do and we are going for a player that's his back-up. With that said I'm almost always wrong about our transfers. I thought Falcao would be a hit. Cleverley the next Scholes, Veron our future Robson and Forlan our new Cantona. So hopefully I'll eat my own sheit this christmas.

I can forgive you for any other thing except this. :D
 
Yeah its pretty weird. He scores a lot of goals relative to his minutes. He will be a star wherever he goes.



9 of his 15 goals are against Leganes, Gijon, Depor and Granada - that's 4 of the bottom 5 in La Liga last season.

The rest of them:
- against Sociedad 3rd goal in 3-0 win.
- against Alaves - 3rd goal in 4-1 rout.
- against Celta - opener in 2-1 win.
- tap in against Bilbao in 2-1 win
- opener against Espanyol in 2-0 win
- and the decider against Villareal away in a 3-2 win.

All in all I wouldn't say it's particular impressive resume this season that would back up 60-70m fee, given his goalscoring exploits.
 
9 of his 15 goals are against Leganes, Gijon, Depor and Granada - that's 4 of the bottom 5 in La Liga last season.

The rest of them:
- against Sociedad 3rd goal in 3-0 win.
- against Alaves - 3rd goal in 4-1 rout.
- against Celta - opener in 2-1 win.
- tap in against Bilbao in 2-1 win
- opener against Espanyol in 2-0 win
- and the decider against Villareal away in a 3-2 win.

All in all I wouldn't say it's particular impressive resume this season that would back up 60-70m fee, given his goalscoring exploits.

Why does it matter who he scored against ? Do goals somehow count less if they are against lesser sides ?
 
Those who don't want us to sign him, what do you want?
Griezmann isn't coming.
Lukaku 100million? Wants to play for Chelsea, by the looks of it.
Belotti, who i'd never heard of before this season, for 80million?
Bidding war with Real Madrid for Mbappe at... eh.. 130'ish million?

This guy is 24 (thought he was much older), has experience from one of the strongest leagues in the world, Champions League, and plays regularily for Spain.
Would be great if him and James signs, two attacking players who knows eachother.
 
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