Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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He'll obviously improve us but hopefully we'll sign another quality winger, because Morata alone won't solve our problems.

Morata
Costa
Nainggolan/Fabinho
Mendy
Lindeloff

Would be a very decent transfer window.
 
Imagine Diego costa. He is the same. Can get 20 or plus. 30 I don't think so.

I wouldn't say that he's like Costa.

I actually think Morata is better with the ball technically whereas Costa is more of an bully type.

Morata despite his height is technically proficient and I would argue relies more on speed rather than outright brute force like Costa.
 
He's not worth £60m simple as that.

Pogba's fee was justified by his marketability we won't get that from Morata.

Even with the inflated fees in football it seems £20m too much for a bench player.

He's good and will fit into the team but I can't help be completely underwhelmed. I really hope I'm proved wrong but I can't see him being the 30 goal a season striker we need next season.
Market is crazy right now and has been for a good while now. 20 mil here and there, he'll be good.
 
I wouldn't say that he's like Costa.

I actually think Morata is better with the ball technically whereas Costa is more of an bully type.

Morata despite his height is technically proficient and I would argue relies more on speed rather than outright brute force like Costa.
He's worth whatever we are willing to pay. Our vastly experienced accountants know more about a players worth and what we can afford than you or I do. They'll have actual tangible data to analyse, rather than randomly plucking a number from thin air like people on here do.
 
Morata has the toolset to be the complete striker, he's tall and can be good in the air, his technical ability is underrated, seriously, dude has step overs, tricks and body feints, and can easily beat a defender or two, he's also not slow despite his size and can find a great pass as well. he's only 24 so he's young and can only get better.

People say "I don't see him being the 30 goals a season striker we need", you are underestimating him, and i believe he would have buried some of the sitters zlatan missed last season.
 
I wouldn't say that he's like Costa.

I actually think Morata is better with the ball technically whereas Costa is more of an bully type.

Morata despite his height is technically proficient and I would argue relies more on speed rather than outright brute force like Costa.

No two players are completely alike but his hold up play and link up play is like him. Not like any other strikers we have had before.
 
But he does not contribute in build up play. And for his style we will need wingers.
Have you watched Icardi? Hes got the speed to get behind defenses, he can hold up the like Tevez, easily one of the best 3 strikers in Serie A. I mean look at his goalscoring record for someone his age in an Inter team going nowhere fast. The best part is he's only 24 and consistent.

You cannot use the argument that he doesn't help in the build up of play and then want Morata.
 
I wouldn't say that he's like Costa.

I actually think Morata is better with the ball technically whereas Costa is more of an bully type.

Morata despite his height is technically proficient and I would argue relies more on speed rather than outright brute force like Costa.

Costa's style of play might mask his ball movement skills but he is well rounded in the technical department.
 
Have you watched Icardi? Hes got the speed to get behind defenses, he can hold up the like Tevez, easily one of the best 3 strikers in Serie A. I mean look at his goalscoring record for someone his age in an Inter team going nowhere fast. The best part is he's only 24 and consistent.

You cannot use the argument that he doesn't help in the build up of play and then want Morata.
Massive twat though isn't he?

Morata seems a bit more "level headed" shall we say.
 
Morata has the toolset to be the complete striker, he's tall and can be good in the air, his technical ability is underrated, seriously, dude has step overs, tricks and body feints, and can easily beat a defender or two, he's also not slow despite his size and can find a great pass as well. he's only 24 so he's young and can only get better.

People say "I don't see him being the 30 goals a season striker we need", you are underestimating him, and i believe he would have buried some of the sitters zlatan missed last season.
Bang on post.
 
He's worth whatever we are willing to pay. Our vastly experienced accountants know more about a players worth and what we can afford than you or I do. They'll have actual tangible data to analyse, rather than randomly plucking a number from thin air like people on here do.

Well they don't actually have that much tangible data... if I'm being honest the accountants only know our incomings (and how to make them look even better each year) they can't accurately measure genuine player value.

I say £60m is too much based on Morata's lack of first team action. Ever other £60m plus player in history has been a first team player and an important part of that first team Morata has never held such a position.

We can try and feel hopeful about this but we are looking at signing a rotation striker from Real Madrid. I do like his style of play but not for £60m I feel we are getting pushed around by Madrid on the fee here.
 
Don't think he'd want to risk being on the bench for another season with the World Cup coming up. He's being offered a chance to play Number 9 as a starter for a manager that really wants him. This is on.
 
To postsr who dont want him...who would you buy?

Im not convinced but seriosuly he seems like the only option left.

I think most people's preference for a number 9 would be Aubameyang however he doesn't fit the mould of a typical Mourinho no 9
 
Morata has the toolset to be the complete striker, he's tall and can be good in the air, his technical ability is underrated, seriously, dude has step overs, tricks and body feints, and can easily beat a defender or two, he's also not slow despite his size and can find a great pass as well. he's only 24 so he's young and can only get better.

People say "I don't see him being the 30 goals a season striker we need", you are underestimating him, and i believe he would have buried some of the sitters zlatan missed last season.

I'm not underestimating him at all by saying he's not going to get 30 goals in his debut season.

You are over rating him if you honestly believe he will walk into the PL with stronger more capable teams and defences than the average La Liga side and score more goals than Zlatan has this season.

Yes he has good physical abilities and he looks good so far and has promise but there is a huge gulf between theory and practice and actually he doesn't have to get better... It really annoys me when people assume that a 24 year old will definitely improve in a new tougher league with a team that is miles behind Madrid in terms of attacking quality right now he's going to go from playing and training with Ronaldo and Bale to Rashford and Martial... I like Rashford and Martial but it's a big gap in quality!

I think it's bizarre that you feel 30 goals is a sensible target to assume he can hit in his first season (which is what I said).

If anything most people here are desperate for something positive after the Griezmann disappointment and Morata might be that but let's not get overboard and embarrass ourselves by talking up a player who is still learning his trade and has never properly lead the line for a season.
 
He's an excellent all-round player and can work in a few systems. He can drop deep or wide in a more open and attacking team, can do the hold up play and can be somewhat of a target man in a tighter game. Would work well with Zlatan, would work well playing just ahead of Griezmann (if he signs next year), also would be fine working with Rashford and/or Martial. He's got good speed and technique and scores goals despite some of the myths going around here. He's also at that point where his game is still being defined and developed so with Jose nurturing him into his type of striker I'd say it's a very exciting prospect. Not every player has to be Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Suarez etc;
 
Not every player has to be Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Suarez etc;

No but you need those kinds of players to win Champions Leagues and consistently win PL titles which is ultimately what our club should be aiming to do win a CL within the next 5-10 years and with the PL within the next 2 seasons.
 
I have to admit when this first came about I wasn't all that for it but maybe him coming to a club and being our proper number nine with the managers arm around him we'll see an even better player than we have seen so far there's just question marks over him for me but I trust Jose and Ed to bring in the right players to take us forward!
 
No but you need those kinds of players to win Champions Leagues and consistently win PL titles which is ultimately what our club should be aiming to do win a CL within the next 5-10 years and with the PL within the next 2 seasons.

And how to get them ?
 
Haha, quotes on Marca website from Morata after the game tonight saying "me and James might well be team mates next season." Everyone in the comments section is taking this as them both being at Utd next season. And the Madrid fans are not happy :D
 
Ok let's just put this out there

Chelsea - Costa, Hazard (Lukaku?)
Spurs - Kane, Alli
City - Aguero, Jesus
Arsenal - Sanchez, Giroud
Liverpool - Coutinho, Mane, Firmino
United - Morata (Rashford, Martial)

Do we honestly think that if we bring in Morata that our forward line is going to compete with Chelsea, Spurs and City and surpass them?
 
Ok let's just put this out there

Chelsea - Costa, Hazard (Lukaku?)
Spurs - Kane, Alli
City - Aguero, Jesus
Arsenal - Sanchez, Giroud
Liverpool - Coutinho, Mane, Firmino
United - Morata (Rashford, Martial)

Do we honestly think that if we bring in Morata that our forward line is going to compete with Chelsea, Spurs and City and surpass them?
There isn't that much choice out there really. He's better than what we have.
 
Well when such a player is available (Griezmann) activate his release clause and don't worry about how a club that has been banned for cheating will feel...

He chose to remain there by his own decision and choice. We can't force him to join us.
 
Ok let's just put this out there

Chelsea - Costa, Hazard (Lukaku?)
Spurs - Kane, Alli
City - Aguero, Jesus
Arsenal - Sanchez, Giroud
Liverpool - Coutinho, Mane, Firmino
United - Morata (Rashford, Martial)

Do we honestly think that if we bring in Morata that our forward line is going to compete with Chelsea, Spurs and City and surpass them?
It doesn't really work like that though. Chelsea had Costa (who's leaving) and Hazard a couple of years back and finished 10th. So yeah we could compete with those teams.
 
Ok let's just put this out there

Chelsea - Costa, Hazard (Lukaku?)
Spurs - Kane, Alli
City - Aguero, Jesus
Arsenal - Sanchez, Giroud
Liverpool - Coutinho, Mane, Firmino
United - Morata (Rashford, Martial)

Do we honestly think that if we bring in Morata that our forward line is going to compete with Chelsea, Spurs and City and surpass them?
We'd need a number 10/wide player too. Sanchez would be the dream.
 
You cannot use the argument that he doesn't help in the build up of play and then want Morata.

Of course I can. We also need to get the best I martial rashford and mkh in the process.And have the ability to counter high press of possession based team of peps and klopp's and in Europe.
 
Well when such a player is available (Griezmann) activate his release clause and don't worry about how a club that has been banned for cheating will feel...
He chose not to come. Activating a buyout clause doesn't stop the player from refusing, it just means the club have no say in the transfer from that point.
 
When this money is quoted than yes.
I know people don't like it but the money is simply irrelevant these days.

Sure, we can't go and spend 200m on every player and play every player 300k a week but these signings of 60m+ now are just the norm.
 
Ok let's just put this out there

Chelsea - Costa, Hazard (Lukaku?)
Spurs - Kane, Alli
City - Aguero, Jesus
Arsenal - Sanchez, Giroud
Liverpool - Coutinho, Mane, Firmino
United - Morata (Rashford, Martial)

Do we honestly think that if we bring in Morata that our forward line is going to compete with Chelsea, Spurs and City and surpass them?
Maybe not, we'd have to see, but who do you suggest we bring in instead then? Messi, Lewandowski etc aren't available. Anyway, there are 11 players in a team (and of course a manager), having the absolute best player for player forward line is not what wins you a league. The question you shoud ask is is that forward line good enough to put teams like West Ham, Stoke and Burnley to the sword. I'd say it is.
 
Ok let's just put this out there

Chelsea - Costa, Hazard (Lukaku?)
Spurs - Kane, Alli
City - Aguero, Jesus
Arsenal - Sanchez, Giroud
Liverpool - Coutinho, Mane, Firmino
United - Morata (Rashford, Martial)

Do we honestly think that if we bring in Morata that our forward line is going to compete with Chelsea, Spurs and City and surpass them?
Since you're including the likes of Hazard and Coutinho - United: Morata, Rashford, Martial, Zlatan, Mata, Mkhitaryan, possibly Perisic/Costa... If they'll click together (whatever the combination), it will be quite tasty.
 
Ok let's just put this out there

Chelsea - Costa, Hazard (Lukaku?)
Spurs - Kane, Alli
City - Aguero, Jesus
Arsenal - Sanchez, Giroud
Liverpool - Coutinho, Mane, Firmino
United - Morata (Rashford, Martial)

Do we honestly think that if we bring in Morata that our forward line is going to compete with Chelsea, Spurs and City and surpass them?

Its funny that you think Rashford and Martial are going to be first choice players next season. Maybe that's why LVG was so shite, he relied on kids and average players instead of building his team around proven quality players.
 
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