Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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load of rubbish.

Sanchez surplus requirements to Barcelona
Pique couldn't get a sniff at us as a youngster
Robben surplus to requirements
Pogba didn't get a chance at us
Isco not had a look in the Real Madrid team until breaking through this season.

Could go on and on Real Madrid are the most stacked squad in the world and their subs are better then our first team players.

Good post. Also Sneijder at Inter, Lukaku at Chelsea, De Bruyne at Chelsea, there are many more.
 
Look, don't ask me to get into Zidane's head. For whatever reason, he likes Benzema. The French connection ? The French-Algerian connection ? Who knows.

Morata still outperformed Benzema as a bench player. Give him a leading role with a good supporting cast and he'll be a 30-35 goal player next year.
He was given a lead role in Juventus and the results were mostly disappointing.
 
Morata played 2,900 less minutes then the almighty Griezmann and ended his overall season with 8 less goals ;)
 
Might be more, might be less. We don't know
Ones 24, ones 28 in a week or so

Two completely different type of strikers. One is a typical Mourinho player, one isn't. Liken Auba to a striker Mourinho was in favour of?

One has scored 80 goals in the last 2 seasons, the other around half in the last 4 playing for better teams.

Auba is light years ahead of him at the moment. Don't think Jose has a particular type as some are making it out.
 
Look, don't ask me to get into Zidane's head. For whatever reason, he likes Benzema. The French connection ? The French-Algerian connection ? Who knows.

Morata still outperformed Benzema as a bench player. Give him a leading role with a good supporting cast and he'll be a 30-35 goal player next year.

He had a leading role at Juve just the year before with pretty good supporting cast and scored 12.
 
One has scored 80 goals in the last 2 seasons, the other around half in the last 4 playing for better teams.

Auba is light years ahead of him at the moment. Don't think Jose has a particular type as some are making it out.

The why does he want Morata and not Aubameyang? I mean their must be a logical reason....Right? Cause one is a great player and one wouldn't get in a champions league winning side
 
Difficult to choose. Lukaku scores a lot of goals and is a flat track bully. Young as well. But I am not a big fan of the kind of the striker he is and wary of his erratic first touch and hold up play and his general history of fecking it up against big teams makes me a bit apprehensive(though I realize it's a bit overplayed as well). His price however is even more ridiculous going by what's being quoted. Lacazette, I have limited viewpoint. His record is pretty good and whatever little I have seen, he seems a good technical player but may not be a very Mourinho kind. But I'd rather hold my judgement simply because I haven't watched him regularly. Morata I like and I have mentioned it in my previous post.

End of the day, I'd take any but I personally prefer Morata as I see him as the most talented who seems to be getting over his average conversion rate.
Well if we buy him, I hope you're right and I am wrong.
 
He was given a lead role in Juventus and the results were mostly disappointing.

He was injured for stretches in his 2nd year at Juve but still managed to play a central role in taking them to the CL final. Not bad for a 22 year old.

Shame he was so shit that Spanish minnows Real Madrid promptly bought him back. :wenger:
 
He had a leading role at Juve just the year before with pretty good supporting cast and scored 12.

Played a big part in them getting to the CL final. Not bad a for a then 22 year old. Why do you think Madrid bought him back.
 
The why does he want Morata and not Aubameyang? I mean their must be a logical reason....Right? Cause one is a great player and one wouldn't get in a champions league winning side

Well that's what boggles my mind. Plan B to Griezmann probably, whilst Auba has strong PSG interest? I don't know but if Auba is still available and we're looking at Morata it's plain wrong IMO.
 
Played a big part in them getting to the CL final. Not bad a for a then 22 year old. Why do you think Madrid bought him back.
Cause they had a buy back clause and would easily make profit on him a year later, despite playing a peripheral role?

Would Real buy him back at 60-70m pounds? If you think so why they are looking at Mbappe?
 
Well that's what boggles my mind. Plan B to Griezmann probably, whilst Auba has strong PSG interest? I don't know but if Auba is still available and we're looking at Morata it's plain wrong IMO.

But thats my point. Morata fit's what Jose wants. Auba doesn't. Hence me saying he is the type of striker Mourinho wants.
Griezmann was never being bought to be the main striker in my opinion. He'd have played behind as he does for Atletico
 
He was injured for stretches in his 2nd year at Juve but still managed to play a central role in taking them to the CL final. Not bad for a 22 year old.

Shame he was so shit that Spanish minnows Real Madrid promptly bought him back. :wenger:

And you dont see this as an issue,maybe?
 
The why does he want Morata and not Aubameyang? I mean their must be a logical reason....Right? Cause one is a great player and one wouldn't get in a champions league winning side

Probably because he knows the player, knows his personality and mentality, what he can do, and how he can integrate him into his plans. That's a massive thing when considering buying a new player.
 
Cause they had a buy back clause and would easily make profit on him a year later, despite playing a peripheral role?

Would Real buy him back at 60-70m pounds? If you think so why they are looking at Mbappe?

Oh so Morata was basically like a real estate investment. Flipping houses etc. Gotcha.
 
But thats my point. Morata fit's what Jose wants. Auba doesn't. Hence me saying he is the type of striker Mourinho wants.
Griezmann was never being bought to be the main striker in my opinion. He'd have played behind as he does for Atletico
As I said probably it has something to do with Ibra, then Griezmann deal being off, then Auba closing on PSG deal - there are multiple factors. But if we compare quality Auba is much better choice for us at the moment.
 
I will get the whole stats don't matter rubbish but anyway:
93 games - 27 goals

Zlatan at Juve
92 games - 26 goals

But obviously that wont matter because of A B and C
He had 63 appearances and scored 15 goals. That's just not good enough as a striker, no matter how you look at it. I have no knowledge of Zlatan's stay at Juventus so I can't make the comparison.

He was injured for stretches in his 2nd year at Juve but still managed to play a central role in taking them to the CL final. Not bad for a 22 year old.

Shame he was so shit that Spanish minnows Real Madrid promptly bought him back. :wenger:
Juve fans says he had a disappointing second season. I mean I'm not saying he isn't a good player, maybe he has a potential to be a great player, but this season will pretty much decide where we are staying - outside of the top 4 or in, so it's extremely important to get the right players and Morata is just too risky, especially at that price. I mean sure, he can turn out to be even a bargain, but he hasn't done anything remotely interesting. There are just as promising strikers as him for way less.

Why does every time we have to just one up our players? A little upgrade, so to speak? Why can't we just buy star players who can propel us to the level that Manchester United deserves to be at?
 
As I said probably it has something to do with Ibra, then Griezmann deal being off, then Auba closing on PSG deal - there are multiple factors. But if we compare quality Auba is much better choice for us at the moment.

Your not getting his point, he's not, as he's not what mourinho wants in his striker, so he's not the best choice for us.
 
You get rejected by that sexy buxom girl you fancy (Griezmann)
Her attractive sister is available and interested (Morata)
But instead you're sitting complaining, comparing her to your doggish cousin who left you for the guy that appeared on Jeremy Kyle (Welbeck)

The Welbeck comparison is insane! We need both Morata and James, plus a winger. We go for it!
 
Oh so Morata was basically like a real estate investment. Flipping houses etc. Gotcha.
I don't think it's any secret that it was exactly what Real was trying to do with Morata last transfer window - buy him and flip him to a club that was certainly going to pay more than 23m pounds?

If he's such a valuable asset to them why are they selling a 24 striker entering his peak?
 
He had 63 appearances and scored 15 goals. That's just not good enough as a striker, no matter how you look at it. I have no knowledge of Zlatan's stay at Juventus so I can't make the comparison.


Juve fans says he had a disappointing second season. I mean I'm not saying he isn't a good player, maybe he has a potential to be a great player, but this season will pretty much decide where we are staying - outside of the top 4 or in, so it's extremely important to get the right players and Morata is just too risky, especially at that price. I mean sure, he can turn out to be even a bargain, but he hasn't done anything remotely interesting. There are just as promising strikers as him for way less.

Why does every time we have to just one up our players? A little upgrade, so to speak? Why can't we just buy star players who can propel us to the level that Manchester United deserves to be at?

He is the striker with the biggest upside (other than perhaps Mbappe) on the table at the moment. He's only 24 and is just hitting his prime career years. He's got Ruud potential.
 
I don't think it's any secret that it was exactly what Real was trying to do with Morata last transfer window - buy him and flip him to a club that was certainly going to pay more than 23m pounds?

If he's such a valuable asset to them why are they selling a 24 striker entering his peak?

Got any evidence of this ? Or are you just making it up.

I don't know why they are selling him. I wouldn't. Perez is a weird guy. He sold Di Maria at his peak as well. I would suspect his pursuit of Mbappe may have a thing or two to do with it.
 
Your not getting his point, he's not, as he's not what mourinho wants in his striker, so he's not the best choice for us.
I'm not sure how everyone came to this conclusion. Morata is far from being a Drogba either.
 
He had 63 appearances and scored 15 goals. That's just not good enough as a striker, no matter how you look at it. I have no knowledge of Zlatan's stay at Juventus so I can't make the comparison.


Juve fans says he had a disappointing second season. I mean I'm not saying he isn't a good player, maybe he has a potential to be a great player, but this season will pretty much decide where we are staying - outside of the top 4 or in, so it's extremely important to get the right players and Morata is just too risky, especially at that price. I mean sure, he can turn out to be even a bargain, but he hasn't done anything remotely interesting. There are just as promising strikers as him for way less.

Why does every time we have to just one up our players? A little upgrade, so to speak? Why can't we just buy star players who can propel us to the level that Manchester United deserves to be at?

I'd agree with that. It's a massive risk for stupid money and Real must be laughing that we are paying stupid money for someone's that's no more than a reserve player for them. Crazy.
 
You get rejected by that sexy buxom girl you fancy (Griezmann)
Her attractive sister is available and interested (Morata)
But instead you're sitting complaining, comparing her to your doggish cousin who left you for the guy that appeared on Jeremy Kyle (Welbeck)

The Welbeck comparison is insane! We need both Morata and James, plus a winger. We go for it!

Its also the epitome of laziness.
 
Cause they had a buy back clause and would easily make profit on him a year later, despite playing a peripheral role?

Would Real buy him back at 60-70m pounds? If you think so why they are looking at Mbappe?

They're looking at Mbappe because Morata wants to leave. Madrid don't want to sell him, he's been better than Benzema this season. Aubameyang is 28, he's more likely to slow down when his insane speed goes away and he's not really a Mourinho striker. Morata is 24 and he's pretty much a perfect striker, he hasn't had one season where he's scored 30 or 40 goals but he's ready for it and it would be a great transfer for United. I watch pretty much every Real Madrid game and I'm confident he'll shine in Manchester, he's certainly the best option on the market. The price being talked about is too much but you've shown you have no problem overpaying for players so now it's normal teams will ask more from you.

Conparisons with Welbeck come from people who haven't watched a minute of Morata or Welbeck. That's the only explanation.
 
Your not getting his point, he's not, as he's not what mourinho wants in his striker, so he's not the best choice for us.

Yes, Mourinho likely sees a long term Ibra replacement in Morata. A player he knows, trusts, and is just entering his prime career years.
 
I'm not sure how everyone came to this conclusion. Morata is far from being a Drogba either.

I didn't say he was a Drogba, but he's far more of a mourinho striker than Aubamayang ever will be, thing that makes e confident is that Jose has worked with him before, will know a lot about him.
 
Got any evidence of this ? Or are you just making it up.

I don't know why they are selling him. I wouldn't. Perez is a weird guy. He sold Di Maria at his peak as well. I would suspect his pursuit of Mbappe may have a thing or two to do with it.

In almost every interview Morata wants to stay. He got back to Real even if he wasn't given a proper chance in the first place. Then he still wants to stay despite being a second fiddle to off form Benzema. Everyone knew that there were clubs ready to pay much more than 30m EUR for him so why won't they exercise the buyback clause? If he was such a valuable asset I don't think the club will be forcing him out, which again by all means and his interviews seems to be the case.
 
He is the striker with the biggest upside (other than perhaps Mbappe) on the table at the moment. He's only 24 and is just hitting his prime career years. He's got Ruud potential.
Whatever the case may be I hope we buy a real star player this transfer window (sorta like Alexis Sanchez) who can win us games on his own otherwise next season will be a real dogfight again, and missing top 4 this time will be a big, big problem.
 
Yes, Mourinho likely sees a long term Ibra replacement in Morata. A player he knows, trusts, and is just entering his prime career years.

Exactly why I think it makes sense, he's going into this knowjng every thing he needs to, even down to mentality.
 
In almost every interview Morata wants to stay. He got back to Real even if he wasn't given a proper chance in the first place. Then he still wants to stay despite being a second fiddle to off form Benzema. Everyone knew that there were clubs ready to pay much more than 30m EUR for him so why won't they exercise the buyback clause? If he was such a valuable asset I don't think the club will be forcing him out, which again by all means and his interviews seems to be the case.

And he may yet wind up staying. Although with Perez pursuing Mbappe, who as we all know is touted as the next Brazilian Ronaldo, it would obviously make Morata staying untenable, especially with the WC coming up next year. He needs to play a full year next year.
 
They're looking at Mbappe because Morata wants to leave. Madrid don't want to sell him, he's been better than Benzema this season. Aubameyang is 28, he's more likely to slow down when his insane speed goes away and he's not really a Mourinho striker. Morata is 24 and he's pretty much a perfect striker, he hasn't had one season where he's scored 30 or 40 goals but he's ready for it and it would be a great transfer for United. I watch pretty much every Real Madrid game and I'm confident he'll shine in Manchester, he's certainly the best option on the market. The price being talked about is too much but you've shown you have no problem overpaying for players so now it's normal teams will ask more from you.

Conparisons with Welbeck come from people who haven't watched a minute of Morata or Welbeck. That's the only explanation.

I don't believe so. By all means and coming back suggests Morata wants to stay at Real. Why wouldn't he?
 
I didn't say he was a Drogba, but he's far more of a mourinho striker than Aubamayang ever will be, thing that makes e confident is that Jose has worked with him before, will know a lot about him.
Out of interest who would you compare him out of the strikers Jose managed in his teams? Everybody seems to be saying that Morata is the perfect forward type Jose likes.
 
Out of interest who would you compare him out of the strikers Jose managed in his teams? Everybody seems to be saying that Morata is the perfect forward type Jose likes.

Out of his best teams I'd say he's closest to Milito from what I've seen. Probably a better athlete though
 
Got any evidence of this ? Or are you just making it up.

I don't know why they are selling him. I wouldn't. Perez is a weird guy. He sold Di Maria at his peak as well. I would suspect his pursuit of Mbappe may have a thing or two to do with it.

I'm sure you were here last summer when they resigned him, all the talk was the very idea that they were going to try and sell him on for more money. There were tons of those reports at the time. If it was actually true or not only Madrid know.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/alvaro-morata-returning-real-madrid-8248402
 
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