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Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player
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I totally agree with this. Clubs couldn't agree a fee and neither were willing to budge so we walked away. Fairly run of the mill stuff despite the papers trying to make it a massive drama.
I think Chelsea are in a better position now that we're going for Lukaku. Despite Madrid's posturing they need to sell Morata and bring in Mbappe. in their minds he was going to United and they wanted to play chicken to get as much money as possible. Suddenly we've walked away and they need a buyer.
All they want is to fund mbappe transfer who has 2 years left on his monaco contract, And fleece as much as they can . Pure buisness and nothing else. Doubt they have the power to tap up a superstar anymore because the price is out of their range on hazard and courtois too.
But they are not so desperate as we where, Griezmann transfer didn't gone according to our plans,Zaltan with injury and we badly need of striker where as for Chelsea they would go into negotiation table with Costa in their side though he might be flirting with A.Madrid the situation is not so desperate comparing to us.
In mean time Real would have also understood that this would their last chance to sell Morata, who is unsettled so they wouldn't bother in getting down on their asking price.
If they were willing to sell him for cheap then why would they reject our bid in the first place as morata wanted United and Mourinho Who would get the best out of him. Letting him go for cheap would reflect badly on their stance. Also Will Chelsea value Him so highly to pay More than Lukaku? If They panic Chelsea will budge in. So automatically Their Position is not better than it is though to be. Besides they have other targets which are more proven Including abamyang and Belotti.
This will backfire now and reflect very badly on their stance of rejecting our offer and denying morata his dream move. If they are willing to accept a lower fee then they should have accpeted our offer.
They don't have any choice now, sell him to Chelsea for the asking price.
All depends on Conte and Chelsea. Also Chelsea have to sell costa first and use that money to put in a bid. Chelsea have more options too.
Media and some posters here blowing this out of proportion. Clubs could not agree on price and we went with another option that was just as good for a fairer price. No one (except perhaps Morata's dad who is his agent), lost anything major here. Morata will either go to Chelsea or stay in Madrid another season, where Zidane according to all reports, wants him to stay.
The media are blowing it out of proportion because it totally blew up in their faces, after weeks of telling us it would 'be done in the next 48 hours'. A nice attempt at diverting from the fact that they were completely clueless.
managerless, main strikerless, talismanless chelsea are actually in a worse situation then they could have ever dreamed when being handed the trophy last may.
And the whole Lukaku miss out seems to of made it much worse.
And if Conte does actually throw all the toys out of the pram which he is very close to doing. Who do they get?
And the whole Lukaku miss out seems to of made it much worse.
And if Conte does actually throw all the toys out of the pram which he is very close to doing. Who do they get?
Ofcourse he is he should have forced a move and handed in a trasnfer request when they rejected our last offer which was already inflated and more than decent , Perez is loosing grip on the transfer buisness acting like a real dimwit, on the other hand his ego never seems to amaze me when he does not realize he is dealing with the biggest and richest club in the world and keep acting like a smart ass which he is absolutely not.
Probably was trying to fund ronaldo's taxes with overinflated morata money.
When they sign 16 year old kids for 40 m
I am no ITK but its does seem clear to me what Real tried to do.
Morata is not in Zidane's first team plans. That's is pretty evident from the fact that the player wants out + he barely gets involved in the top games. The player Zidane wants is Mbappe. He's talented, he fits in Zidane's plans like a glove and he's young enough to afford sitting out for a couple of games until Benzema start showing signs of decline.
Unfortunately for Real, Mbappe cost plenty of euros. That's something Real seem to struggle with lately. Last year they ended up looking silly with DDG and Pogba, something a club who relies heavily on its galactico's brand cant afford to do. This year they seem to hesitate spending the dosh on their big target, something that makes full sense for any reasonable club (the French man isn't worth 120m+) but doesn't make sense for a club with such marketing strategy.
In my opinion, Real's plan was to sell Morata and James for big money so they can afford Zidane's new expensive toy. Their manager would have end up happy while Real's propaganda would work its magic by hyping Mbappe as Ronaldo's natural heir while diminishing Morata/James reputation as some sort of rejects that only desperate clubs would spend crazy money on.
By signing Lukaku, United would have managed to pull the carpet from under Perez's feet. Real will be saddled with a player who clearly wants out + they won't be able to bring Zidane's new expensive toy for the second season in a row. If that had to happen their sponsors will soon be wondering whether Real still has the ambition to bring the best players in the world. Sure, Chelsea might bail them out. However would Chelsea offer the 90m euros Perez want? Or would they turn to Belotti instead? (ie an Italian player whose copy and paste of Conte's no 1 target (ie Lukaku)). James had been paraded around like some sort of third rated escort but no one seem interested in him, at least not at the crazy prices Real are asking for him.
Would there still not be a possibility for us to sign Morata as well? Lukaku can, unfortunately, go a bit AWOL during the big games, and can also dominate games where we shouldn't have drawn last season. Is there not a case for having both, considering are potentially losing Rooney (still a striker) and Ibra? Even when we had those two, we were goal-shy.
Perhaps, this is our way to pressure RM to not play games with us regarding his fee, now that Morata's relationship with the club has been soured somewhat.
No issue if you guys disagree, I just think we still can't expect our current stock + Lukaku (with Mourinho's magic Drogba wand) to suddenly start banging in all the goals we need.
Perhaps, this is our way to pressure RM to not play games with us regarding his fee, now that Morata's relationship with the club has been soured somewhat.
No issue if you guys disagree, I just think we still can't expect our current stock + Lukaku (with Mourinho's magic Drogba wand) to suddenly start banging in all the goals we need.
By all accounts we 'played' Keane as well with him seemingly convinced he was coming back
Football is cutthroat these days, no room for niceties
Football is cutthroat these days, no room for niceties
Would absolutely surprise me. Buying a (not even quite) top striker is such a huge investment nowadays that I can't imagine anyone buying two of them. Also, both players want to be the no.1 option at their club. I guess Lukaku's competition will be Rashford next season.
You feel like Morata is on the cusp of something fairly special but he needs to find the right club to be the main man and have that breakout season. The problem is that Perez will feck him over on the price.
Only person I feel sorry for is his wife for having her honeymoon cut short.
Understandable, I just think we are so light in the goals department that Lukaku is a risk. That said, buying a million strikers isn't the correct answer either. I just think we need options, and that's something we are lacking at the moment.
Up front, as it stands we have Lukaku and Rashford. If one of them gets injured then we are stuck with playing Martial out of position. We need depth, and depth that can guarantee goals. Have a look at a lot of the club's subs list (as well as ours historically) and you will always see someone there who can come on and bag some goals if required.
Right now? I'm not so sure. I'm not saying we need to be like Real and have a bunch of galactico's sitting on the bench, but if we are to aim for bigger things, we need to start thinking bigger.
She didn't. It was more bullshit from the media.
Yeah, it's a risk, but one that's inavoidable imo. (I'm one of those who aren't too convinced of Lukaku, btw.) The scarcity and expensiveness of up-and-coming top strikers means that each top club can pick one prospect at best and just has to hope it works.
A third no.9 might be in Mourinho's plans, but if so, I'd rather expect him to be of Chicharito/Llorente calibre.
Agree. Feel for Morata if he really wanted the move wich it seemed like he did.
I'm sorry, Jive did not keep Morata on the bench so they could fool Madrid into not buying him back.
That's fecking ridiculous.
A Bailly-type signing. That would actually be great. Much rather see a left-field signing that is surprisingly good than a shirt-sales kinda signing.
Well, let's hope to see something, as I think we agree, we can't depend on our current strike force, even with Lukaku.
At the end of the day, it might all click and we do great. But from what we've seen the last 2-3 seasons, there needs to be confidence in all-round contribution, and I don't think we have that currently.
I remember a story from last summer saying Madrid/Perez (same thing) won't deal with Raiola. Would be pretty amusing if an player changed agents to him then wouldn't it
Pretty much
If he organised his wedding better he could have left silly season free to sort his fecking life out hey. But this cnut decided to get married and feck off on a honeymoon!
I bet he didn't realise how quickly married life takes control of your life. I have zero sympathy!
I bet he didn't realise how quickly married life takes control of your life. I have zero sympathy!
When was he meant to get married then? During the season?
Why not?
Not sure she did, to be honest. And even if she did, I'm sure she still had a good time... she's a very beautiful girl!
Zero sympathy . Like Morata is crying in a corner looking for friendly messages from the internet.
. Like Morata is crying in a corner looking for friendly messages from the internet.Why? She'll do piss all for the other 51 weeks of the year, who cares.
@The Bloody-Nine has said it was bullshit made up by the media. I didn't realise that before I posted.
If what Morata's supposed representatives are true, I actually feel bad for the guy (as bad as you can for a multiple title winning millionaire). Ronaldo once said footballers are slaves to their contracts. He is now one of the main reasons as to why his teammate is living that situation. When Ronaldo eventually steps down, will Real promote Morata or will they simply sell him to finance Mbappe?
They did play him less cos of the uncertainty of Madrid triggering the buyback clause. Juve were not interested in grooming him for Madrid. The uncertainty affected the player as well.
Unlike Griezmann, Morata looks determined to play for Manchester United at this very moment with his father doing what he can to make it happen. We could really use both Luk & Morata as their hunger for playing first team football and ambition to have bigger responsibilities speaks to me louder than Griezmann's blind loyalty to a club that fecked themselves up with not going by the FIFA rule book.
Griezmann proved his loyalty to Atleti (which is nothing bad, btw) and there's no real guarantee he'll make a move next year after what he pulled. That's my problem with a Frenchman and a bit sympathy for the Spaniard.
Griezmann proved his loyalty to Atleti (which is nothing bad, btw) and there's no real guarantee he'll make a move next year after what he pulled. That's my problem with a Frenchman and a bit sympathy for the Spaniard.
This will be one of Jose's "Blesses" in reverse.
If Lukaku gets injured we are pretty much fecked if we only have Rashford and Martial as we cant depend on them.
We should definitely be looking at another striker be it Morata or not.
We havent signed any of them yet though,so you'd never know.
Yeah, hard to feel sorry for the new wife of a 24 year old millionaire.
As for us using Morata, how many players have used United? FFS, we have been umofficial (and unintentional) negotiators for top players all over Europe to help them get new contracts. Yeah, Morata didn't personally do anything to us, but others have. And if Madrid had offered him assurances of playing time, you can bet his "desire" to join United would have quickly subsided.
Players have so much power these days, that it's hard to feel sorry for them. Morata can put in a transfer request, or wait till his contract runs down, or whatever. Boo hoo.
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