Don't agree with the Madrid fan. 90 million euros being a fair price is laughable. Its exorbitant. Morata isn't an established any thing. I was really looking forward to him but he was a risk. Look on Lacazette price. That was fair. Morata is a fine player and given the opportunity I think he could have been great for us. But Lukaku is less of a gamble, is used to playing every week, especially in the epl and has the added bonus of being a Homegrown player. 70 million euros we offered for a player they clear wanted to sell and doesn't have a real future with them was more than fair. Matter of fact it almost crazy from us and a big risk. I prefer Morata as a player because of his style of play but Lukaku is way better value for us at 75 million pounds than Morata at 70 Million pounds. The worst part is Perez wanted 79 million pounds. You would think he was some ridiculously important player for Madrid who couldn't do without him. They were busy wooing Mbappe as their next super star instead of trying to convince Morata to stay.
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Some people need to understand how things work. A player can be first transfer choice for a certain price only to become a second or third choice if his club asks for crazy money. Take belotti as an example. United and arsenal were all over him but switchec to other targets once torino asked 100m for him.
Real has no obligation to sell. We have no obligation to buy and 79m for a serial bench warmer is crazy. At that price we could get more proven talent
Things can change of course. If lukaku sign then all the leverage Real had on is is gone. That might force them to be more reasonable. Regarding real, well morata does deserve better especially after stripping him away from juventus only to force him to sit on the bench.
Real has no obligation to sell. We have no obligation to buy and 79m for a serial bench warmer is crazy. At that price we could get more proven talent
Things can change of course. If lukaku sign then all the leverage Real had on is is gone. That might force them to be more reasonable. Regarding real, well morata does deserve better especially after stripping him away from juventus only to force him to sit on the bench.
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United screwed over Morata is really a story? This one takes the ABU cake. What the hell? Yeah, I'll bet Perez is consoling the poor kid right now.
Feck around with Perez again for James? 
I doubt Chelsea would value Morata as the same way we valued him,they are never going to pay 80M asking price from Real.Also Chelsea are in better position in negotiation compared to us.
Madrid's asking price for a bench warmer was obviously preposterous. It's not like we low balled them, we were offering over 60m pounds. That's a shit ton for a serial substitute. From Utds perspective, Morata has a lot of fine qualities and I was excited for his transfer, even if we hugely over paid, but he was still a risky transfer because he remains relatively unproven. He's never consistently led the line for any club at any point of his career.
I'd still welcome him here, but I'm happy we made the choice we did.
I'd still welcome him here, but I'm happy we made the choice we did.
The fact that Morata cutting short his honeymoon, pointing out he wanted the move to United. He wouldn't do it if he wasn't sure that United was serious about buying him, where United were ready to meet RM initial price tag on him.
Common sense point out that it's Real Madrid act the cnut.
Morata must really be fuming. First Real kicked his arse to Juventus after barely giving him a sniff of first team football. Then when he started to build a name for himself in Italy they pulled him out of there solely to make profit out of any potential deal. Last year he spent most of his time on the bench and this summer Real refused a healthy 50m profit out of him despite spending the entire summer courting Mbappe. That's not the way you treat a homegrown talent
How? With Lukaku is not an option (still an if until he signs), they need to sign a forward since Diego Costa clearly wants the transfer. Don't forget Hazard's injury so they're without 2 of their main attacking options at the beginning of the season if they don't have a new forward. Chelsea would play right into Madrid's hand. With Perez's form, he may as well tapping Hazard & Courtois in the process
Heck yes.Feck around with Perez again for James?
Try something better. How about Ronaldo? We know that Real Madrid plan revolve around Ronaldo. Even if he doesn't move, it would worry them enough to freeze their activity, or even force help Ronaldo to an contract extension. Quite possible given Messi seems to renew his contract.Feck around with Perez again for James?
That's Madrid for you, they don't give a feck about sentimentality. They want to buy best talents in each position and continue winning.
No matter how much resident Madrid fans try to convince us about Morata's quality and his worth, fact is he's nothing more than a solid striker who's never going to be first choice for them. Would Madrid really want to get rid of a player who is their youth product, Spanish, first choice for NT if he was going to become a world beater? Imagine if we were to bid for Asensio, would they even entertain opening a negotiation for him? We'll be told to feck off because they know he's a special talent whereas that's not the case with Morata. He was brought back to be a squad option who they can sell later for big bucks and buy the next hot property on the market. It almost worked how they imagined as we bid way and beyond his worth but in the end demands were too much for even us to fulfill.
God knows how they see us as the evil here when they've treated their youth product like a property and it was only due to their preposterous demands we looked elsewhere.
Nah, we just signed a striker for the starting 11. Got to make our "interest" sound somewhat realistic/believable.
I dont think Morata's camp were blindsided here at all. The publicised meeting between Perez and Morata's father and agent is very interesting. It's quite possible United told their camp that their final offer was 80m Euros so they tried to convince Perez to accept. Maybe Perez rejected this offer and so Utd went all in on Lukaku.
This transfer might still go through and Jose will spring a surprise by playing a 2 striker formation next season. Just that now we do not have to play on Real's terms - we have more leverage.
Morata can thank RM for the the cancelled move. He can go back and come off the bench for another season at RM instead of being the main man leading up top for United. RM are such feckwits.
The way I see it is that we were in for both and would have bought both if morata price was acceptable.
If we want both players the deal is still possible. Real would probably sell at a lowered price towards the end of the window. Given that we were also going to sign Griezmann, I believe we are going for signing 2 strikers. This could turn into the saga of the summer for us.
Costa is not sold yet neither Hazard going anywhere,they can still convince Costa to stay instead of paying what Madrid is asking for Morata,above all we never knew how Conte rating Morata plus the Romans valuation on Morata.
But your initial point is they're in better negotiation position for Morata, as if you know. Yes we don't know nothing & anything can happen, but to say Chelsea would be in better negotiation position is wishful thinking. Hazard's injury happened. Conte didn't want Diego Costa in his plan was real too. By several account Madrid is pretty firm on their price & they're keen enough to keep him if the offer doesn't meet their expectation, which we saw it ourselves.
Edit: I know Express is shite, got banned here & all, but just as we're starting a new discussion, Express started a new rumor between Madrid & Hazard. I think English journalists definitely getting ideas here.
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Morata definitely needs a better agent
Yes, the reason he started so few games for Juve was that he was 21 when he joined, and wasn't meant to be a starter. He impressed them, though, so the following season they used him conservatively, hoping to keep Madrid from using their buy-back (Juve tried to buy out the buy-back for a reason).
For Madrid this season in the league (which is what it seems like you're referring to), he scored 15 goals and assisted 5 in 26 appearances (or 1341 minutes, which translates to a goal roughly every 67 minutes). 14 of those were starts. 11 of his goals and 3 of his assists came in those 14 starts.
I hate him but he does help his clients though. If he was Morata's agent chairs would have been thrown. In this case Morata's agent couldn't get his client what he wanted
Agree with you on that. It felt more like Morata wants first team football but ideally at RM. Lukaku has been saying for ages how he wants to step up.
Real wanted to cash in and fleece any club to sell on extortionate prices, because they want to replace him anyway with mbappe and probably fund ronaldo's taxes with those extra money they were asking who knows
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MORATA UPDATE
Real Madrid will not lower their €90m asking price for Alvaro Morata, reports AS.
Manchester United were thought to be leading the chase to sign Morata but several reports have claimed they have cooled their interest in the Spain striker as they are now chasing Everton hitman Romelu Lukaku instead. Chelsea have also been linked with the former Juventus attacker.
In any case, Madrid have no need to sell Morata and they will not sell him for less than €90m, although this amount may be split between an initial €80m fee and a further €10m in add-ons.
Real Madrid will not lower their €90m asking price for Alvaro Morata, reports AS.
Manchester United were thought to be leading the chase to sign Morata but several reports have claimed they have cooled their interest in the Spain striker as they are now chasing Everton hitman Romelu Lukaku instead. Chelsea have also been linked with the former Juventus attacker.
In any case, Madrid have no need to sell Morata and they will not sell him for less than €90m, although this amount may be split between an initial €80m fee and a further €10m in add-ons.
He can stay back and try again to fulfill his dream next year.
I agree. However, I can't help thinking that the player has a part of it too. He should have handled a transfer request long ago. Maybe he didn't want to burn bridges with Real because he wanted to return there one day. There again, how can anyone be loyal to a club that keep screwing his career over and over again? How can United spend ridiculous money on a player whose not showing 100% commitment of wanting to leave his club?
MORATA UPDATE
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Ofcourse he is he should have forced a move and handed in a trasnfer request when they rejected our last offer which was already inflated and more than decent , Perez is loosing grip on the transfer buisness acting like a real dimwit, on the other hand his ego never seems to amaze me when he does not realize he is dealing with the biggest and richest club in the world and keep acting like a smart ass which he is absolutely not.
Probably was trying to fund ronaldo's taxes with overinflated morata money
. When they sign 16 year old kids for 40 m
the books are going to be heavyly loaded.Reguardless of the player being unhappy and on the bench
What a Mob. OnlyChelsea can bail them out if they really want to cash in and get mbappe provided they panic buy and value morata so high to pay that Fee
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If the reports are true, Perez definitely dropped a bollock on this one.
Are they?
His price will seriously drop if he has a okay year and a Flop at world cup.
They aren't. Real now know they are desperate as well. They are losing Costa and have been blindsided by us for Lukaku. The price won't drop at all. Wouldn't surprise me if Perez didn't bring Hazard into the equation.
Aren't they ?
Totally agree. Morata is a better footballer and more what we need. If Chelsea get him, he will be the better signing. Hope I'm wrong but just don't see it.
I keep reading how Morata is such a lovely all round footballer, but I don't really see that from what I've seen. He's just a traditional centre forward.
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