Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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Navas and Coentrao should welcome Morata into their support group.
 
Nope, Morata is a better footballer and has a higher ceiling if given the lead role at United due to his wider skillset.

It's frustrating as you're clearly on-board the Morata hype bus but he's genuinely not as good as you are making him out. He's not a prolific goal scorer, he doesn't get loads of assists, he's not that fast or physically imposing, is he that good a finisher?...he's just a good player at a great club and they're building him up as they want to cash in. RM don't need money, they don't sell players unless they want to.
 
It's frustrating as you're clearly on-board the Morata hype bus but he's genuinely not as good as you are making him out. He's not a prolific goal scorer, he doesn't get loads of assists, he's not that fast or physically imposing, is he that good a finisher?...he's just a good player at a great club and they're building him up as they want to cash in. RM don't need money, they don't sell players unless they want to.
The fans don't want him to go, it's Benzema they don't rate. Doubt the fans will be happy with the perceived way he has been treated by Perez.
 
It's frustrating as you're clearly on-board the Morata hype bus but he's genuinely not as good as you are making him out. He's not a prolific goal scorer, he doesn't get loads of assists, he's not that fast or physically imposing, is he that good a finisher?...he's just a good player at a great club and they're building him up as they want to cash in. RM don't need money, they don't sell players unless they want to.

I'm not on board any hype bus, I've stated more than once that Morata isn't an elite striker, I have also been consistent on my view of Lukaku, he's the one player above all we were linked with I didn't want playing at United, I hate his type of striker in general. With Morata I feel we'd have a striker that we could build an attacking unit with that was greater than the sum of it's parts as he is good at all aspects of being a striker, just not great at any of them. With Lukaku we'd get a limited striker who needs the entire system catered towards his limited abilities, making us dependent on him rather than having an attack with multiple threats.
 
But Zlatan's abilities on the ball played a part in creating those chances. His legs were largely gone, but he was still above most strikers in terms of movement, intelligence and technical abilities. You'd now have to insert Lukaku in his place in the passing chain.

(obligatory Squawka stats comparison:
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...s/pass_completion/chances_created/assists#avg )

Not saying it can't work, but the creative balance will probably have to be recalibrated.
Or simply change how we play football...
 
Feel sorry for Morata if the reports are true. Seems a bit cnutish by us. However, if he had pushed through the move a bit earlier in the window, it would've happened IMO.
 
Feel sorry for Morata if the reports are true. Seems a bit cnutish by us. However, if he had pushed through the move a bit earlier in the window, it would've happened IMO.
How is it cnutish? It's cnutish from Madrid and only Madrid. We wanted him Madrid played hardball.
 
I love how he went from being "a squad player" to being better than Benzema. This place is absolute bonkers some times.
 
How is it cnutish? It's cnutish from Madrid and only Madrid. We wanted him Madrid played hardball.

I agree, I'm sure he's disappointed but we're well within our rights to withdraw from negotiations if we aren't satisfied. I'm sure taking home thousands upon thousands of € every week will help dry his tears though.
 
Had Madrid been reasonable on the fee, he'd already have signed for us.

Morata can blame Real for RBI falling through.
 
Feel sorry for Morata if the reports are true. Seems a bit cnutish by us. However, if he had pushed through the move a bit earlier in the window, it would've happened IMO.
Totally disagree. We tried to sign him and Perez asked for 90 fecking million euro. Perez thought we had no option and would not budge. Well feck him. We offered 60 million pounds which was more than fair and he said feck off. Morata can go hate him as he's the cnut. We have no time for Madrid and their foolishness.
 
Can you be a top side without a forward who can link up play though?
If he moves well off the ball, yes, absolutely

Besides, Lukaku's link-up play is perfectly fine. Having a Ibra/Benzema type isn't necessary
 
Stephen Howson thought he'd have a go at being ITK when Morata looked very close. Embarrassing it took about 10 hours for his tweet to be exposed as pure bullshit. Just seen a video of him making out he was there when Pogba signed and has known Lukaku was in the works for over a year. Such an attention seeker.
 
Stephen Howson thought he'd have a go at being ITK when Morata looked very close. Embarrassing it took about 10 hours for his tweet to be exposed as pure bullshit. Just seen a video of him making out he was there when Pogba signed and has known Lukaku was in the works for over a year. Such an attention seeker.

Haha! Yeah some of the shite that comes out of that guy is unreal.
 
Stephen Howson thought he'd have a go at being ITK when Morata looked very close. Embarrassing it took about 10 hours for his tweet to be exposed as pure bullshit. Just seen a video of him making out he was there when Pogba signed and has known Lukaku was in the works for over a year. Such an attention seeker.

He's a fat cnut!
 
Stephen Howson thought he'd have a go at being ITK when Morata looked very close. Embarrassing it took about 10 hours for his tweet to be exposed as pure bullshit. Just seen a video of him making out he was there when Pogba signed and has known Lukaku was in the works for over a year. Such an attention seeker.

Easiest trick im the book, isn't it? When you know a deal is supposed to be close, claim it is done. You'll probably end up looking right and there are enough idiots who will see it as proof you have inside information.
 
Easiest trick im the book, isn't it? When you know a deal is supposed to be close, claim it is done. You'll probably end up looking right and there are enough idiots who will see it as proof you have inside information.
Yep. That's what Acquire Me was trying on here and then he got made to look a mug r.e. Griezmann. Although that one would be easy to get out of. I do think Griezmann was meant to be coming but changed his mind.
 
Totally disagree. We tried to sign him and Perez asked for 90 fecking million euro. Perez thought we had no option and would not budge. Well feck him. We offered 60 million pounds which was more than fair and he said feck off. Morata can go hate him as he's the cnut. We have no time for Madrid and their foolishness.
It's more what had been said to him. I guess we don't know the story - perhaps we communicated to his camp that we wanted the deal but wouldn't meet the asking price.
 
I think i'd be violently ill if he ends up at Chelsea now. Hopefully latest link is BS.
 
I agree and disagree! Lukaku is limited as a footballer and won't be pretty to watch in some ways. He is also not worth 75 million. He is also unlikely to be influential in big games. What he will do however is be a hell of a lot more clinical than any player we've had for years against the smaller teams. This is what we need in the premier league. Morata is a fantastic player and would have been great for us and he will be great for whichever club he goes to but to me it all felt like a short term thing - a stepping stone to return to Madrid in a few years.

Time will tell!
Lukaku is good with both feet, strong, quick and great in the air.

On what planet is he limited?
 
Deal was €5M apart. It was pretty much done. What happened was, in the meantime Everton's position on Lukaku softened considerably and you felt you could close a deal for him. Lukaku being the higher priority, you chose to close that deal instead of Morata's
 
It's more what had been said to him. I guess we don't know the story - perhaps we communicated to his camp that we wanted the deal but wouldn't meet the asking price.
well yes, we don't really know what was said to him. Though I suspect we wanted him to push harder for a move away. But I remember him coming out and saying he wants to stay at RM. Unlike Lukaku who basically said I'm off and can't wait to go
 
Deal was €5M apart. It was pretty much done. What happened was, in the meantime Everton's position on Lukaku softened considerably and you felt you could close a deal for him. Lukaku being the higher priority, you chose to close that deal instead of Morata's

Yep, it's clear that what happened. We played on both deals but since Lukaku seemed Chelsea bound the more focus was on Morata till we got a chance to go for Lukaku and decided to go for it.
 
Yep, it's clear that what happened. We played on both deals but since Lukaku seemed Chelsea bound the more focus was on Morata till we got a chance to go for Lukaku and decided to go for it.
Yep. Think Rooney going to everton was the key to getting this done
 
Yep. Think Rooney going to everton was the key to getting this done

He was a factor to facilitate negotiation I believe. Have to thank him at least when he left he helped us get a replacement. :D Not a bad Goodbye gift.
 
How'd you explain that one then? @Acquire Me

It's not much to explain mate. I heard that it was done, but it was all a big smokescreen. So my friend don't get good information anymore and that's me done.

Only one I feel sad for is Morata. The way we used him is not very good imo. I hope for his sake we still are in for him. That said, it was a genius move from Woodward to pull this off. No one saw that coming, at least not Real Madrid and Chelsea.
 
How much Madrid were paying for De Gea before fax machine denied the move ?

I hope we demand 200 Million if Madrid ever asks for a United player.
 
It's not much to explain mate. I heard that it was done, but it was all a big smokescreen. So my friend don't get good information anymore and that's me done.

Only one I feel sad for is Morata. The way we used him is not very good imo. I hope for his sake we still are in for him. That said, it was a genius move from Woodward to pull this off. No one saw that coming, at least not Real Madrid and Chelsea.

We didn't use anyway. We offered +70m for him what else can we do ? If he wants to blame someone it's Perez then because he clearly didn't want to sell him if he's asking for 90m.
 
Lukaku is good with both feet, strong, quick and great in the air.

On what planet is he limited?
You have to be extremely blinkered to think he's good with both feet. He's comfortable shooting off either foot but that's about it. His first touch puts a buffalo in a china shop to shame and his positional awareness is sub par at best.

Also, the famed strength can only be seen in patches. He was handled easily by Daley freaking Blind ffs.

Anyway, this is the Morata thread so not the place for this but I'd suggest you go watch a few full matches of him rather than youtube vids and MoTD highlights.
 
We didn't use anyway. We offered +70m for him what else can we do ? If he wants to blame someone it's Perez then because he clearly didn't want to sell him if he's asking for 90m.

If the finale obstacle was €5, then I think we kind of used him. But that's my opinion.
 
If the finale obstacle was €5, then I think we kind of used him. But that's my opinion.
Lukaku was the priority, obviously. The moment you saw you could get it done, Morata deal was off. It's not a smokescreen or anything, it's just working on multiple options and going for the one you consider the best
 
Lukaku is good with both feet, strong, quick and great in the air.

On what planet is he limited?

i.e You've described a fantastic goalscorer and I agree. You should read that Reddit post by an Everton supporter posted in the Lukaku thread, which reflects my views entirely and will probably also answer your question.
 
Real Madrid aren't the cnuts here.
What are you smoking?

Real madrid buy a lad back for buttons wont play him, wont make him the number 9 in waiting instead want to buy mbappe and wont sell him for twice the price they brought him back for and chose to promote youth ahead of him.

I tell ya now, if the world was short of cnuts, Real Madrid could easly make 3.
 
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