Which should happen also, A player is needed to build up improvement.
Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player
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Which should happen also, A player is needed to build up improvement.
He was only £4M more than the lump from Everton, I don't see how we won anything by doing this to Morata.
Absolutely.
Morata gives you options. He is very comfortable as a lone striker (ex at Real) or as a shadow striker (behind Zaza) or (lesser so) as an inside forward. I can see him drop in a deeper role to allow Lukaku (whose a tank) upfront.
It would make sense why we were linked for both Belotti (ie similar to Lukaku) and Morata.
I just hope Morata stays put, it'll be annoying if he goes to Chelsea and ends up being a revelation.
I think Lukaku will do well for us, but I still would have preferred the more classy option.
I think Lukaku will do well for us, but I still would have preferred the more classy option.
By the way we dint shaft him, he failed to force through his move and burn the bridges to madrid's end. We offered a decent price for a non proven player.
Glad we didn't get him for the prices being quoted, also good to see us not getting bullied by Madrid in the market.
Griezmann is better value for money.
This.
IF Lukaku really is one his way, we still need Morata more than Chelsea do. He is class, just spend the money. Griezmann can feck off anyway, didn´t want us now, can stay in Madrid next summer as well.
Would have preferred Morata. But both have certain advantages and disadvantages and not entirely sure I can justify picking one over the other based on pure objectivity. Was quite sure we would get this done, but never mind now.
Maybe, but that ship sailed now.
We need goals. Ibra alone wasn't able to bring those goals on his own. We need 2 players. Martial can act as cover/competition for the Spaniard with Rashford competing for Lukaku's role
How exactly have we fecked Real over ?
By not buying a player they didn't want to sell in the first place ?
Morata is a better player than Lukaku and I still hope we are in for him aswell.
Will be wierd when we play madrid in preseason
Short of placing a perfectly reasonable bid on the table for Morata, only to have it rebuffed in a seemingly endless cycle, what did United do wrong? The "smokescreen" stuff being spouted is nonsense.
Given our slightly desperate situation in the procurement of a striker, Perez saw an opportunity to take advantage and milk us for every penny he could get.
The fault lies with Madrid as always,
Interesting. Looks great on paper!
Morata was also perfectly comfortable in the Teveth role (ie partnering Llorente or Zaza)
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- Carrick can easily slot in the Pirlo role
- Pogba was splendid in that formation
- Herrera can do a great job in the 'Marchisio' job
- Nainggolan/Mkhitaryan can do the Vidal's job
So how will it fit at United
GK- DDG:Buffon
Ball playing CB: Lindelof: Bonnucci
Tough CB: Bailly:Chiellini
R-Wingback: Valencia:Lichesteiner
L-Wingback: Shaw:Evra
Deep-lying playmaker: Carrick:Pirlo
B2B: Herrera-Marchisio
LSM: Pogba
Workrate monster AMC: Naingollan/Mkhitaryan-Vidal
Deep lying striker: Martial/Morata:Teves
STK: Lukaku/Rashford: Morata
We haven't fecked Real Madrid over, they'll go and get the money off Chelsea instead and we'll have paid almost as much for an inferiror player and both Chelsea and Real will be sitting pretty.
Marca:
This is strange. Felix Diaz only said last night that we're really close to agreeing a price with Madrid.
This is strange. Felix Diaz only said last night that we're really close to agreeing a price with Madrid.
I still think Morata is not impossible, he is simply the "replacement" for Griezmann (price about the same, actually lower marginally). With both Rooney Ibra gone, we "free up" a lot from wages.
Plus Mou priority is to get 2 attackers.
Whether how they both fit into the system I don't know. Either Morata as #10 or Mou switching to 442/352......
Anyone with me?
Plus Mou priority is to get 2 attackers.
Whether how they both fit into the system I don't know. Either Morata as #10 or Mou switching to 442/352......
Anyone with me?
Greizemann showed some class in stickign with his club through troubled times, he deserves credit not ridicule. I'm confident we'll be in for him next summer after which Athletico's ban will be lifted.
Inferior in what way? Because it certainly isn't goalscoring
Highly unlikely. No way Mou would spend so much on 1 position, while there are so many problematic positions on the pitch
My preference, but also the riskier option.
Can't exactly work out what's been going on here but I get the feeling that someone has been taking the piss.
Either that or Everton have just recently decided to sell and we jumped on that instead.
Either that or Everton have just recently decided to sell and we jumped on that instead.
Morata is a much better all round footballer, you need that in your top sides, players like Suarez, Aguero, Benzema, Lewandowski are all excellent footballers, not just goal scorers, Lukaku's all round game is poor and not good enough for a side aiming for the CL.
Problematic positions where you literally don't have any player (Zlatan and Rooney gone)?
The ship will arrive again next season. We need better attacking dynamics to make other's like mkh and martial and rashford and pogba score as well. And it will come by a dynamic player in the midfeild like fabinho who helps in better tansition.
I agree, but we're hoping he can improve. And we were so bad burying them last season, that should be our first priority.
They will both play. That's why I said
either Morata as #10 (Lukaku #9) @ 4231/422
or Morata Lukaku as front 2 @ 442/352
His touch and lack of agility and awareness is not going to improve at his age, these are things that come in the formative stage of your career, he is what he is, a big lump #9 to use as a target and who has pace on the counter if we get any.
We are prioritising the white player?
Damn, we've gone full Liverpool with the racism!
Rom > Morata
One is a proven PL hitman, an absolute bully in the Prem, the other is totally unknown quantity in this league.
As we've seen with ADM, Falcao, Depay etc - players can turn up here from other leagues and just not find rhythm.
I think a lot of people have spent a lot of emotions and time on this transfer so it's a huge disappointment and shock to their systems it won't go through now.
Lukaku has achieved so much more in his short career with statistics comparable to all the top strikers in Europe and yet somehow an unproven player is better. Maybe because he comes from Real Madrid he's getting overrated.
The scary thing about Lukaku is that he still can improve a lot more.
Absolutely not. He knew madrid were not ready to let him go.
One is a quality footballer the other is a #9 lump for Pulisball that was pocketed by our CB's every time we played them, we play against tight defenses where his lack of agility and movement will be exposed.
Highly Unlikely that we're still in for Morata, mate.
1 thing is can agree on is lukaku has got better finishing and heading ability than Morata , But lukaku has to develop more tactically.
81 goals in 4 years in Epl is a great tally.
81 goals in 4 years in Epl is a great tally.
2 high profile players for 1 position seems excessive. We might buy a cheap striker for depth, not Morata. If Mou changes the formatation well then thats a different matter
Disagree totally and think Rom is a great signing.
As United fans, lets hope I'm right.
Yeah but he can destroy with his presense in the box as a battering ram, There is always long ball option which mourinho loves. In lukaku's favour he is certainly a great finisher . he has scored against city united chelsea tottenham arsenal before , not sure against pool.
Sorry to repeat what other people already said, but some years ago didn't United have Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney and Berbatov?
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