Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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If Lukaku is worth £100m then Mbappe would be a relative bargain at the same price. He will likely go for £120m+.

And Morata price doesn't look so excessive imo (around £70m) when you look at those two deals.

I said it was done too weeks back based on nothing. No one will credit me though when it's actually done. Such is life.

:lol:
 
This Pogba left huge gap in defense in league cup is narrative made by the English pundits. The problem with our defense was the Mata had a meh game. Perhaps due to his family issue before the game. Bertrand & Redmond combination couldn't be handled by Valencia himself. Then our CB pair had below standard game. Our tactic was similar to that of EL final that we tried to stiffled them by man marking them in midfield and forced them go long to Gabbiadini who should be taken care well by our CBs, especially Smalling for his man marking style. It failed.

You must not watch Pogba enough to say he always wants to get involved all over the pitch. He can play very disciplined. If anything as I put it in previous post & many time regarding different matters, many positions in our teams underperform throughout season leading to some players having to do too much on their own. Pogba has football brain to know when & what to do. It's not theory or anything like that, toward the end of the season, his defensive game visibly improved. The Ajax game (not midfield 2, but Pogba played deep in double pivot role for huge part of game) he man marked perfectly. VS England in that friendly, he outperformed Kante defensively IMO.

So I don't agree with you - so naturally I don't watch enough football ? :) Pogba can be disciplined - but players like him and Zlatan get frustrated when things don't go as they want. And thats when they drift into positions where they are more likely to get the ball and influence the game. Which is a good quality of course, but in a 2 man midfield keeping your position is vital. And when you see stats of Pogbas movement in a game, you will notice that he is basically all over the pitch. And I have never said Pogba hasnt got a football brains - of course he does. But he is 24 years old, he has not spent a lot of time playing in a 2 man midfield. This comes with experience, which he lacks. I have seen Pogba leave the man he is marking on set-pieces several times - it's not because he doesnt know what to do, but because he lacks the experience to defend. Many of our attacking players do - it's natural, it requires a set of thinking they are not used to.

As for the Southampton-game. Yes, they ran riot on both the left and the right - but they easily played their way through our central midfield as well - because Pogba and others didn't do their job.
 
If we abandon our pursuit of Morata to sign Lukaku I'll actually feel pretty bad for the guy. Left his honeymoon to try and sort the deal out and everything :lol:

I still think Morata is the one we'll sign though.
 
If we abandon our pursuit of Morata to sign Lukaku I'll actually feel pretty bad for the guy. Left his honeymoon to try and sort the deal out and everything :lol:

I still think Morata is the one we'll sign though.

Pretty sure, Morata is our primary target. Lukaku will either be our second striker or simply a "smokescreen" from Everton to convince Chelsea to pay up.
 
On a serious note. Hope we get him, more of a gamble then Lukaku but imo has a higher ceiling and can offer more to other attacking players.

More of a gamble because Morata never played in the Premier League? Yeah, maybe. But on the other side, he has done well in two top leagues so far, in the Primera Division and the Serie A. That's promising.
 
If we abandon our pursuit of Morata to sign Lukaku I'll actually feel pretty bad for the guy. Left his honeymoon to try and sort the deal out and everything :lol:

I still think Morata is the one we'll sign though.
Wouldn't surprise me if Jose wants both. We are very short in attack.
 
If we get both than we have to play with 2 strikers up top because else it really doesn't make sense. Both Lukaku and Morata needs to play because you aren't getting them to put them on the bench.

-----------------DDG-------------------
Valencia---Bailly--Lindelof----Shaw
------------Herrera--Pogba----------
Mkhitaryan-----------------Perisic
-----------Morata---Lukaku--------
 
If we get both than we have to play with 2 strikers up top because else it really doesn't make sense. Both Lukaku and Morata needs to play because you aren't getting them to put them on the bench.

-----------------DDG-------------------
Valencia---Bailly--Lindelof----Shaw
------------Herrera--Pogba----------
Mkhitaryan-----------------Perisic
-----------Morata---Lukaku--------

Can play the diamond like Madrid. Morata and Lukaku upfront with Mikhi behind them and 3 midfielders.

Will look great but we need Shaw and Valencia to be extraordinary in the attack.
 
If we get both than we have to play with 2 strikers up top because else it really doesn't make sense. Both Lukaku and Morata needs to play because you aren't getting them to put them on the bench.

-----------------DDG-------------------
Valencia---Bailly--Lindelof----Shaw
------------Herrera--Pogba----------
Mkhitaryan-----------------Perisic
-----------Morata---Lukaku--------
I doubt we will play two upfront or buy both. And what about Rashford and Martial?
 
Because we have an agreement with Real to make the deal. In business that's a done deal. It's going to be negotiation on the price, but this is done.
Jesus wept, you truly have no clue what you're talking about, how on earth do people follow your word?
 
Can play the diamond like Madrid. Morata and Lukaku upfront with Mikhi behind them and 3 midfielders.

Will look great but we need Shaw and Valencia to be extraordinary in the attack.


Something like this?

--------Morata----------Lukaku---------
------------------Miki----------------------
------Pogba---------------Herrera--------
----------------Fabinho/Matic--------------
Shaw-----Lindelof-------Bailly------Valencia
-------------------DDG-------------------------

I really like the way it look.

Valencia is top class, he was on his own with the RW position for the whole last season, so no worries there.But I'm unsure about Shaw, can Perisic play WB?
 
Based on my scouring of their forums, I'm truly surprised about the amount of disdain for Benzema. Apparently, a lot of them subscribe to the belief that Morata is more deserving of a starting place and has been slightly shafted by Zidane in being forced to play second fiddle. There definitely seems to be lamentations about his departure, but at the same time I've also espied a couple of posts suggesting that it's a double edged sword as it will increase his prospects of becoming Spain's first choice striker. Silver linings and all that.

Source: http://fororealmadrid.com
 
Something like this?

--------Morata----------Lukaku---------
------------------Miki----------------------
------Pogba---------------Herrera--------
----------------Fabinho/Matic--------------
Shaw-----Lindelof-------Bailly------Valencia
-------------------DDG-------------------------

I really like the way it look.

Valencia is top class, he was on his own with the RW position for the whole last season, so no worries there.But I'm unsure about Shaw, can Perisic play WB?

Yep what I meant.

Perisic can be like Valencia on the other flank yes but I doubt we'll sign all Morata, Lukaku and Perisic all together. If Shaw appeared with the same performance before his leg break injury he'll save us lots of problems.
 
Something like this?

--------Morata----------Lukaku---------
------------------Miki----------------------
------Pogba---------------Herrera--------
----------------Fabinho/Matic--------------
Shaw-----Lindelof-------Bailly------Valencia
-------------------DDG-------------------------

I really like the way it look.

Valencia is top class, he was on his own with the RW position for the whole last season, so no worries there.But I'm unsure about Shaw, can Perisic play WB?
That formation would give a little more explanation why Mourinho is going for Perisic, not so much a defensive minded winger as an attacking minded full back.
 
Based on my scouring of their forums, I'm truly surprised about the amount of disdain for Benzema. Apparently, a lot of them subscribe to the belief that Morata is more deserving of a starting place and has been slightly shafted by Zidane in being forced to play second fiddle. There definitely seems to be lamentations about his departure, but at the same time I've also espied a couple of posts suggesting that it's a double edged sword as it will increase his prospects of becoming Spain's first choice striker. Silver linings and all that.

Source: http://fororealmadrid.com
Are you really surprised? Benzema's level has dropped a fair bit since the blackmail and NT debacle, Morata has only continued to grow as a player. Zidane's unwaivering loyalty to Benzema and the fact that him working as a '9.5' with excellent technical ability make him the perfect foil for Ronaldo, contrasted to the traditional number 9 Morata seems to be taking more steps to become.
 
Based on my scouring of their forums, I'm truly surprised about the amount of disdain for Benzema. Apparently, a lot of them subscribe to the belief that Morata is more deserving of a starting place and has been slightly shafted by Zidane in being forced to play second fiddle. There definitely seems to be lamentations about his departure, but at the same time I've also espied a couple of posts suggesting that it's a double edged sword as it will increase his prospects of becoming Spain's first choice striker. Silver linings and all that.

Source: http://fororealmadrid.com

He is more deserving. The problem is, Madrid make Ronaldo the goal scoring focus (for obvious reasons) and Zidane prefers benzema because he will play second fiddle to ronaldo. Morata wants to be the main focus, he isn't a "feeder" to ronaldo. Morata is a better striker than benzema, he just doesn't fit a system where ronaldo is the main focus.

When we get him, i believe we are in for a treat.
 
No, he can not - based on what he has shown so far (he was even tried as a WB by Inter at some point).
Then it would be like we would sign only two of the three( Perisic,Morata and Lakaku)
Yep what I meant.

Perisic can be like Valencia on the other flank yes but I doubt we'll sign all Morata, Lukaku and Perisic all together. If Shaw appeared with the same performance before his leg break injury he'll save us lots of problems.

Agree there we'll never buy all three, If he takes Morata and Lakaku then Jose would certainly look for LWB for which he got more time to assess Shaw in Pre-Season.
 
I didn't say otherwise but Martial is clearly preferred on the left atm, not really seen as a striker
Remains to be seen. Jose played him upfront and he did well. The key message is that we have 2 strikers in Martial and Rashford, hence only need one more imo. Morata and Lukaku wont play together and cost way too much
 
Based on my scouring of their forums, I'm truly surprised about the amount of disdain for Benzema. Apparently, a lot of them subscribe to the belief that Morata is more deserving of a starting place and has been slightly shafted by Zidane in being forced to play second fiddle. There definitely seems to be lamentations about his departure, but at the same time I've also espied a couple of posts suggesting that it's a double edged sword as it will increase his prospects of becoming Spain's first choice striker. Silver linings and all that.

Source: http://fororealmadrid.com

Won't prevent many here from keep calling him Madrid reject and squad player, though. Opinions never change anyway.

The boy is highly admired by Juve and Madrid fans it can't be for no reason.
 
agree, if possible, get both for squad depth. If all of this new news is just fluff, then just get Morata and get him on the tour.
People need to get a grip. We will not spend 170m on two strikers and both of them want to be the main man
 
The idea that we would sign both Morata and Lukaku is simply hilarious from so many angles
I don't fecking get it. People are either naive, stupid or dreamers during transfer season. It's either Morata or Lukaku, but not both. As if we would spend 170m on two strikers in one window
 
I don't fecking get it. People are either naive, stupid or dreamers during transfer season. It's either Morata or Lukaku, but not both. As if we would spend 170m on two strikers in one window
Calm down man, let people be excited.

Sure beats having Joe Hart being linked to us.
 
The idea that we would sign both Morata and Lukaku is simply hilarious from so many angles

I don't fecking get it. People are either naive, stupid or dreamers during transfer season. It's either Morata or Lukaku, but not both. As if we would spend 170m on two strikers in one window

Really? You're confused why a team who scored less than Bournemouth, is getting rid of Zlatan and Rooney, and is trying to mount an assault on the PL title and CL and 2 other cups wants to sign 2 strikers, one of which who is capable of playing #10 or out wide?

Yeah, it's a real mystery. One for Columbo.
 
Really? You're confused why a team who scored less than Bournemouth, is getting rid of Zlatan and Rooney, and is trying to mount an assault on the PL title and CL and 2 other cups wants to sign 2 strikers, one of which who is capable of playing #10 or out wide?

Yeah, it's a real mystery. One for Columbo.
Dou you believe we will spend 170m on 2 strikers?
 
I don't fecking get it. People are either naive, stupid or dreamers during transfer season. It's either Morata or Lukaku, but not both. As if we would spend 170m on two strikers in one window

Relax man! We will easily get at least 70m for Rooney from Everton, so Lukako will costs us only 30m in the end.

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Really? You're confused why a team who scored less than Bournemouth, is getting rid of Zlatan and Rooney, and is trying to mount an assault on the PL title and CL and 2 other cups wants to sign 2 strikers, one of which who is capable of playing #10 or out wide?

Yeah, it's a real mystery. One for Columbo.
I understand why the team would want to sign as many strikers as they can get but what I dont understand is in which imaginary world do you think the players, particularly Morata, would agree to it?
 
Dou you believe we will spend 170m on 2 strikers?

I believe a team who'd let a guy go on a free and then sign him back for £89m, or who'd sign someone for £70m then sell him a year later for £60m, or who'd pay £8m for Bebe, is capable of almost anything.
 
I don't fecking get it. People are either naive, stupid or dreamers during transfer season. It's either Morata or Lukaku, but not both. As if we would spend 170m on two strikers in one window
It's Morata for me, and I agree that I cannot see us spending that amount of money on two strikers - both of whom want to be the 'main man' - they are not coming to sit on the bench or play in a different position to accommodate one or the other.

Also, didn't Ed say in one of those shareholder type conferences that we're not going to be doing big spending this summer or something?
 
I believe a team who'd let a guy go on a free and then sign him back for £89m, or who'd sign someone for £70m then sell him a year later for £60m, or who'd pay £8m for Bebe, is capable of almost anything.
Then you're deluded. No club can spend that amount of money for 2 players in the same position. Don't forget, we need another midfielder as well and just bought another defender. No team has the cash to spend a quarter of a billion
 
What is this sign both Lukaku and Morata? We need a CM badly and should start with that asap..
 
Were we or were we not trying to sign Griezmann to play with Zlatan? We don't have either of those, so logic dictates we'd be in the market for 2.


No team has the cash to spend a quarter of a billion

We do. And City will spend that much too.
 
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