His buyout is even higher though and a lot of people think Morata is a better fit. I think people are really struggling to get their heads round the type of money sloshing about in the game. They will have to.
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When will people get it through their heads that there are no such players available, and in particular ones who want to come here.
The Griez deal was that deal.
Players are moving to Championship level these days for more than 10m. You have to go with the market price or get left behind
I'm not laughing at you lot, but these disagreements are testament to the difficult job Ed Woodward has this summer. He genuinely can't win. Some numpty above is asking what on earth he is doing? Well, he is trying to get the best deal for United, as well as ensure that our manager (who is bleating to the press) has the players he needs to have a successful pre season.
Our wealth is a hindrance in a market in which clubs no longer need to sell their best players. And when it comes to dealing with clubs like Madrid, the task is ever harder.
I think we're going to sign Morata, and it will likely cost a lot of money, but those that pretend as if Woodward's job is a walk in the park only has to look at this thread to see the stark differences in opinion.
Agreed. He's done nothing to warrant that ludicrous price tag.
Madrid are dicking us around. Feck them.
That's an interesting perspective. I'd say showing proper patience with young players, and allowing them to develop, is not forcing them into the first team and placing the heavy responsibility of Man Utd squarely on their young shoulders.
I don't subscribe to the philosophy that the club has to suffer, in favour of trying to prioritise the development of young players.
Yes, everyone has opinions and they can express their opinions. I don't have any issues with you expressing your opinion.
Its dead simple. Rooney has rarely played as the out and out lone striker for us. So using his average as a barometer for Morata makes little sense.
Disagree with the rest of your post. Strikers have always got involved unless they were a classic poacher. Yorke got 25 assists 98/99 season.
Im going to ignore that youre being rude for no real reason
To state that we need that kind of player is not incorrect is it? Whether such a player is available or not is another thing (and debatable). We need an attacking goal scoring player that strikes fear into people, a big club like United that wants to win the league on a regular basis needs that (something that Bobby Robson also recently said).
lets wait and see. Might not be an established player but a young up and coming player with potential, I dont think Morata, Perisic, Matic and Lindelof are the only signings we can afford to make in a CL season.None of those available this summer, we'll get one in Griez next summer though.
And before you mention Dybala\Sanchez\Bale\Dembele etc:
Dybala - has expressed his desire to play in Spain and preferably Barcelona, in addition to talking shite about us and the PL during the Pogba saga
Sanchez - There is simply no way in hell Wenger will sell to us, even if Sanchez down tools
Bale - Won't be sold, injury prone and would cost ridiculous amounts of money
Dembele - wants to play in Spain, won't come and Dortmund won't sell this season
Griezmann at his release clause next summer is the only viable option.
Plenty of time left. Get the best deal.
We could maybe have a chance at Bale if Real Madrid do get Mbappé. He is worth the trouble, though? Not sure Mourinho likes him that much.
If that kind of player isn't available then what's the point in saying it? Do we sign no one then, because there isn't a world class striker available?
he may lack experience starting regularly but that is less important than the ability to perform when given the starting opportunity. Last season is scored in most games he started even though it was often alongside other team B players like Isco, James, Asensio, Kova etc. But I do agree that we need another goal scorer among the attacking four with my preference being James
To hell with these cnuts, if he's gonna cost 80m i'd rather drop that on Lukaku. At least we know he can be a starting striker...
That's a fair summary. If we want to add goals this summer we'll probably need to be looking at the next tier down eg Insigne or James Rodriguez, or we could take a punt on someone like Keita Balde or Bernardeschi.
Yes. We need other players in other positions, we can fill those holes and be patient for the striking position, maybe target a solid veteran like Dzeko if the price is right. But spending for spending doesn't look like a sensible approach.
Patient while starting the season without a proper striker? Yeah, that's Mourinho alright…
Dzeko ? I have never liked him when he was a City. In fact I use him as an example of why the numbers of goals by strikers in Serie A means nothing really.
I don't really understand the posters baulking at the fee - it was pretty apparent all along that Madrid would want a fairly substantial fee for Morata (why wouldn't they?). When they re-signed him last summer and there was talk of them selling him on the fees being quoted were circa £60m so it shouldn't come as any surprise that they'd want more for him now given the inflation in the market and our relative position of weakness in negotiations.
Of course there is a certain risk attached in that he has never really been the main man anywhere but this isn't a Perisic scenario either. Morata has proven his quality at the highest level for Spain, Juventus and Real Madrid and proven he can get 15 goals a season even in a reduced role. Given the fact that Morata is clearly a player Mourinho rates - he's one of the very few Mourinho has given a debut and actually persisted with - and the lack of better alternatives, we should jump in with both feet.
Of course there is a certain risk attached in that he has never really been the main man anywhere but this isn't a Perisic scenario either. Morata has proven his quality at the highest level for Spain, Juventus and Real Madrid and proven he can get 15 goals a season even in a reduced role. Given the fact that Morata is clearly a player Mourinho rates - he's one of the very few Mourinho has given a debut and actually persisted with - and the lack of better alternatives, we should jump in with both feet.
That's really pushing it. Morata hasn't played that much for him.
It's fine if you don't like/rate him, he isn't joining us. And it's fine if you don't think that the strikers in our team aren't strikers but people don't have to share your opinion.
There's barely any news and yet we're averaging 3-4 new pages per day, up in here. Crazy stuff.
Anyhow, I like the player and would happily have him for a reasonable price but if Madrid are sticking to their guns we shouldn't get fleeced. He's not an £80m player. If Mou said he gave 3-4 options for each position, maybe we should just move to the next one down the list.
Anyhow, I like the player and would happily have him for a reasonable price but if Madrid are sticking to their guns we shouldn't get fleeced. He's not an £80m player. If Mou said he gave 3-4 options for each position, maybe we should just move to the next one down the list.
Lots of pages is generally a good sign there's no news.
You don't have to share the opinion Rashford and Martial are forwards, not strikers, even less the type of forwards Mourinho is used to and likes to play upfront alone, of course you don't have to share that opinion, you can keep your own opinion that they are target men who excel at playing with their backs against the wall and are wonderful poachers who know where the ball's going to drop, of course you can…
The only one I have hope for is Mhki. Rashford is too young to carry that sort of responsibility yet. Martial always looks like he hates football and Lingard. Don't get me onto Lingard.
Mikhi and Pogba are the 2 players I'm expecting a lot from next season.
If only it were that simple, the reality is these transfers are huge. Sure we will have alternatives but it takes time to move deals forward.
Yeah, or failing that, Peter Crouch might come
If we don't have a striker they will need Ronaldo figures.
Yeah, or failing that, Peter Crouch might come
We could always get down on bended knees to Rooney.
I love how Madrid are now a "vile club" for apparently not letting a player go for lower than they value him.
Should we let De Gea go for whatever Madrid want to pay? People always moan about us not demanding more for departing players, but lose their shit when other clubs don't let us pay what we please.
Should we let De Gea go for whatever Madrid want to pay? People always moan about us not demanding more for departing players, but lose their shit when other clubs don't let us pay what we please.
Yeah, or failing that, Peter Crouch might come
I will share the opinion that I want as long as I'm respectful. Now you can go feck yourself.
He gave him a healthy amount of games considering his usual resistance to blooding young players. He featured in 14 matches for Mourinho in the 12/13 season and a couple in the seasons prior too - that's quite a commitment for him.
I'm sure we'll get a striker regardless of being early or late in the window, but these will be supposed to be our main creators and they need to deliver A LOT of numbers next season, since it seems our only attacking additions will be a striker and another winger.
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