Ballache
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I don't care at this point, just get it done. I think Rooney leaving is an indicator that this is almost done too.
Time to move on. Anything over £60m is just not viable. Don't know why we weren't in for Lacazette tbh, he's a huge upgrade on anything we have currently have and was available and I'm sure with the CL football we could offer plus the small french contingent we have built up ,he'd have chosen us over arsenal but that boat has sailed.
Hopefully we have other options and if not we need to find some.
Exactly it's an absolute joke. Just move on.They want 90m????? Oh feck off Madrid!!!!
I've never said anything about a bench player I rate the lad, highly but at 90m, Madrid are essentially financing their Mbappe deal.How can the last £12m be a deal breaker for you if you were happy with the player at £60m?
If he is right for us I hope we sign him, even if we pay £72m.
£72m isn't even that obscene in this market for a 24 year old striker, and please don't give me that "bench player" shite again, he is on the bench because Benzema is the best foil for Ronaldo and the one he prefers to play with.
I've never said anything about a bench player I rate the lad, highly but at 90m, Madrid are essentially financing their Mbappe deal.
Move on.
It matters because Madrid are essentially pulling our pants down and we shouldn't let them take the piss.What does it matter for MUFC if we finance their Mbappe deal? Mbappe wouldn't join us anyways since he dreams of RM, besides Monaco have turned down some obscene amounts for him already.
I couldn't care how RM finance their purchases. They will buy Mbappe sooner or later independent of us purchasing Morata or not anyways.
Haven't they always been asking for that? I remember Marca and AS quoting that price a month ago.Call up Dortmund and see what they want for Au. 90m is bang out of order for Morata.
This and now I can understand why Roman had to override Jose at Chelsea re-signings if he insists on paying Ronaldo fees for a still unproven player.Call up Dortmund and see what they want for Au. 90m is bang out of order for Morata.
It matters because Madrid are essentially pulling our pants down and we shouldn't let them take the piss.
I don't disagree that there is a question of whether Morata will be able to be the "main man" persay and lead our line.
But, the argument that he hasn't scored a lot of goals in the past is analysis equivalent to that of a 5 year old's capability, considering he's broadly been limited to substitute appearances and infrequent game time.
A better analysis would be to, for example, consider his goal:game ration and build in an adjustment for potential benefit for playing regularly, or an adjustment for adjusting to the UK. You can't just look at his goal tally and assume that means there is a risk.
Isco started every game for Malaga including their amazing CL run, he cannot be compared to Morata. Besides I'm not doubting his quality but his lack of experience and ability to single handedly deliver what even ibra couldn't do last season I.e. score 30-35+ goals. I'm saying that we need to sign another goal scorer because we can't depend on Morata alone.Well he has only been at two clubs - Real and Juve, and not being a starter at either club is not evidence of a lack of quality. Put him at any of the lower clubs and he would be a guaranteed starter.
One could make a similar argument about Isco who has primarily been a sub at Madrid since he joined despite being an almost guaranteed starter for Malaga at a much younger age. Still he has the quality to be a guaranteed starter at most of the top clubs including United.
Time to move on. Anything over £60m is just not viable. Don't know why we weren't in for Lacazette tbh, he's a huge upgrade on anything we have currently have and was available and I'm sure with the CL football we could offer plus the small french contingent we have built up ,he'd have chosen us over arsenal but that boat has sailed.
Hopefully we have other options and if not we need to find some.
I thought it was more in the 60 to 70 range.Haven't they always been asking for that? I remember Marca and AS quoting that price a month ago.
We should just sign Lukaku and tell Madrid to piss off.
If the additional money is incentive based then it would makes sense since it would mean he's been successful, otherwise the deal doesn't make sense for United. Benzema himself isn't worth £79 let alone his back-up.How can the last £19m be a deal breaker for you if you were happy with the player at £60m?
If he is right for us I hope we sign him, even if we pay £79m.
£79m isn't even that obscene in this market for a 24 year old striker, and please don't give me that "bench player" shite again, he is on the bench because Benzema is the best foil for Ronaldo and the one he prefers to play with.
I bet some of those millions will be bonuses and performance based as well.
- We are buying a player they would like to keep as backup and who they use plenty
- We are desperate for a striker
- We are minted
- Madrid doesn't need the money
- He is a homemade product and Madrid fan, won't push for a move publicly
They hold all the cards and are doing what a savvy club in the transfer market should do, sadly we're not as savvy but no one could glare into a crystall ball and predict Zlatan's injury.
Al that plus i don't think madrid and united are in good terms as far as club relations go understandably.
Also bet madrid are still sour about the de gea transfer fiasco with the fax machine
Madrid can afford mbappe whether we buy morata or not, who cares. If he wants to play for them nothing's going to stop that.I've never said anything about a bench player I rate the lad, highly but at 90m, Madrid are essentially financing their Mbappe deal.
Move on.
That's how much we reportedly bid and got rejected.I thought it was more in the 60 to 70 range.
Y'know what? At that money I would rather there was a chance of Real falling flat on their faces. Whatever happens they will either lose a ton of money on him or lucky them he will score tons. I could just see us, with our luck, him failing here. Monaco was built in a way it suited him totally. We are not and likely will never be.We should go for Mbappe and that will truly piss off Real!
I don't think morata rashford martial mata mkhi and pogba (and potentially perisic) would be sufficient to win a league title. We need to add someone who scores and creates goals by the dozen, a marquee player.We're not looking to depend on Morata alone, more hoping the signing can open up the rest of our team and get them scoring too.
Exactly. He does not want to play for us and we would pay all that money for a couple of years then him hankering after Madrid. There would be no chance in hell of us making any money on him.Madrid can afford mbappe whether we buy morata or not, who cares. If he wants to play for them nothing's going to stop that.
How can the last £19m be a deal breaker for you if you were happy with the player at £60m?
If he is right for us I hope we sign him, even if we pay £79m.
£79m isn't even that obscene in this market for a 24 year old striker, and please don't give me that "bench player" shite again, he is on the bench because Benzema is the best foil for Ronaldo and the one he prefers to play with.
I bet some of those millions will be bonuses and performance based as well.
I don't think morata rashford martial mata mkhi and pogba (and potentially perisic) would be sufficient to win a league title. We need to add someone who scores and creates goals by the dozen, a marquee player.
- We are buying a player they would like to keep as backup and who they use plenty
- We are desperate for a striker
- We are minted
- Madrid doesn't need the money
- He is a homemade product and Madrid fan, won't push for a move publicly
They hold all the cards and are doing what a savvy club in the transfer market should do, sadly we're not as savvy but no one could glare into a crystall ball and predict Zlatan's injury.
We can afford to give Real 150m does that mean we should? They can feck off and we move on just as we would if Morata had decided to stay.
This is when Ed takes his holidays. He will want to be circulating in the US while the team is on tour.Except Zlatan's injury was April. What have the scouting department been doing since then? Why was Woodward allowed a vacation during a vital part of the year for his role? Who is running this organization?
What about that Torino lad as an alternative? Is he good enough?