Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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I don't care at this point, just get it done. I think Rooney leaving is an indicator that this is almost done too.
 
The Sun said he'll be signed tomorrow (Thursday) didn't they

So there should be some medical going on right about now
 
Time to move on. Anything over £60m is just not viable. Don't know why we weren't in for Lacazette tbh, he's a huge upgrade on anything we have currently have and was available and I'm sure with the CL football we could offer plus the small french contingent we have built up ,he'd have chosen us over arsenal but that boat has sailed.

Hopefully we have other options and if not we need to find some.
 
Time to move on. Anything over £60m is just not viable. Don't know why we weren't in for Lacazette tbh, he's a huge upgrade on anything we have currently have and was available and I'm sure with the CL football we could offer plus the small french contingent we have built up ,he'd have chosen us over arsenal but that boat has sailed.

Hopefully we have other options and if not we need to find some.

How can the last £19m be a deal breaker for you if you were happy with the player at £60m?

If he is right for us I hope we sign him, even if we pay £79m.

£79m isn't even that obscene in this market for a 24 year old striker, and please don't give me that "bench player" shite again, he is on the bench because Benzema is the best foil for Ronaldo and the one he prefers to play with.

I bet some of those millions will be bonuses and performance based as well.
 
How can the last £12m be a deal breaker for you if you were happy with the player at £60m?

If he is right for us I hope we sign him, even if we pay £72m.

£72m isn't even that obscene in this market for a 24 year old striker, and please don't give me that "bench player" shite again, he is on the bench because Benzema is the best foil for Ronaldo and the one he prefers to play with.
I've never said anything about a bench player I rate the lad, highly but at 90m, Madrid are essentially financing their Mbappe deal.

Move on.
 
I've never said anything about a bench player I rate the lad, highly but at 90m, Madrid are essentially financing their Mbappe deal.

Move on.

What does it matter for MUFC if we finance their Mbappe deal? Mbappe wouldn't join us anyways since he dreams of RM, besides Monaco have turned down some obscene amounts for him already.

I couldn't care how RM finance their purchases. They will buy Mbappe sooner or later independent of us purchasing Morata or not anyways.
 
What does it matter for MUFC if we finance their Mbappe deal? Mbappe wouldn't join us anyways since he dreams of RM, besides Monaco have turned down some obscene amounts for him already.

I couldn't care how RM finance their purchases. They will buy Mbappe sooner or later independent of us purchasing Morata or not anyways.
It matters because Madrid are essentially pulling our pants down and we shouldn't let them take the piss.
 
I get the feeling we are going to ditch this deal and go for Lukaku while negotiating Rooney's exit with Everton and let those feckers at Madrid deal with an unhappy player who doesn't want to stay with them
 
Just get him now for whatever the asking price is, especially if the two clubs are just 9 million euros apart as some reports seem to suggest today.
 
It matters because Madrid are essentially pulling our pants down and we shouldn't let them take the piss.

- We are buying a player they would like to keep as backup and who they use plenty
- We are desperate for a striker
- We are minted
- Madrid doesn't need the money
- He is a homemade product and Madrid fan, won't push for a move publicly

They hold all the cards and are doing what a savvy club in the transfer market should do, sadly we're not as savvy but no one could glare into a crystall ball and predict Zlatan's injury.
 
I don't disagree that there is a question of whether Morata will be able to be the "main man" persay and lead our line.

But, the argument that he hasn't scored a lot of goals in the past is analysis equivalent to that of a 5 year old's capability, considering he's broadly been limited to substitute appearances and infrequent game time.

A better analysis would be to, for example, consider his goal:game ration and build in an adjustment for potential benefit for playing regularly, or an adjustment for adjusting to the UK. You can't just look at his goal tally and assume that means there is a risk.

For sure his goal to game ratio and the no. Of points the team earned due to his goals (second only to Ronaldo last season) augurs well for us.
My argument is that playing week and week out for 60 games is something new for him and he would need support. Surely we cant depend on him and expect him to get 30+ goals , which is what we would need if we have to win the league and do well in the CL and FA cup. In other words signing morata isn't nearly enough as far as solving are goal scoring problems are concerned. I have no doubt he's the right kind of signing though.
 
All the ones suggesting other strikers. You do realise that even that striker isn't really enough. It isn't the money it is the goals we need. So ideally we need two strikers. A number 9 and a No.10. If we had signed Griezmann that is likely with Morata what we would be getting. Maybe people should be looking at why other teams are not going near Auba? Greedy comes to mind.
 
Well he has only been at two clubs - Real and Juve, and not being a starter at either club is not evidence of a lack of quality. Put him at any of the lower clubs and he would be a guaranteed starter.

One could make a similar argument about Isco who has primarily been a sub at Madrid since he joined despite being an almost guaranteed starter for Malaga at a much younger age. Still he has the quality to be a guaranteed starter at most of the top clubs including United.
Isco started every game for Malaga including their amazing CL run, he cannot be compared to Morata. Besides I'm not doubting his quality but his lack of experience and ability to single handedly deliver what even ibra couldn't do last season I.e. score 30-35+ goals. I'm saying that we need to sign another goal scorer because we can't depend on Morata alone.
 
Time to move on. Anything over £60m is just not viable. Don't know why we weren't in for Lacazette tbh, he's a huge upgrade on anything we have currently have and was available and I'm sure with the CL football we could offer plus the small french contingent we have built up ,he'd have chosen us over arsenal but that boat has sailed.

Hopefully we have other options and if not we need to find some.

Huge upgrade over Rashford and hasnt kicked a ball in the PL yet
 
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How can the last £19m be a deal breaker for you if you were happy with the player at £60m?

If he is right for us I hope we sign him, even if we pay £79m.

£79m isn't even that obscene in this market for a 24 year old striker, and please don't give me that "bench player" shite again, he is on the bench because Benzema is the best foil for Ronaldo and the one he prefers to play with.

I bet some of those millions will be bonuses and performance based as well.
If the additional money is incentive based then it would makes sense since it would mean he's been successful, otherwise the deal doesn't make sense for United. Benzema himself isn't worth £79 let alone his back-up.
 
- We are buying a player they would like to keep as backup and who they use plenty
- We are desperate for a striker
- We are minted
- Madrid doesn't need the money
- He is a homemade product and Madrid fan, won't push for a move publicly

They hold all the cards and are doing what a savvy club in the transfer market should do, sadly we're not as savvy but no one could glare into a crystall ball and predict Zlatan's injury.

Al that plus i don't think madrid and united are in good terms as far as club relations go understandably.
Also bet madrid are still sour about the de gea transfer fiasco with the fax machine
 
Al that plus i don't think madrid and united are in good terms as far as club relations go understandably.
Also bet madrid are still sour about the de gea transfer fiasco with the fax machine

Think that plays a huge part, Perez is probably sour about it.

Don't think there will be a great deal of business done between the two clubs after this deal, I for one hope we insert a Madrid clause in our players contracts, sick and tired of those fecks by now.
 
I've never said anything about a bench player I rate the lad, highly but at 90m, Madrid are essentially financing their Mbappe deal.

Move on.
Madrid can afford mbappe whether we buy morata or not, who cares. If he wants to play for them nothing's going to stop that.
 
We should go for Mbappe and that will truly piss off Real!
Y'know what? At that money I would rather there was a chance of Real falling flat on their faces. Whatever happens they will either lose a ton of money on him or lucky them he will score tons. I could just see us, with our luck, him failing here. Monaco was built in a way it suited him totally. We are not and likely will never be.
 
We're not looking to depend on Morata alone, more hoping the signing can open up the rest of our team and get them scoring too.
I don't think morata rashford martial mata mkhi and pogba (and potentially perisic) would be sufficient to win a league title. We need to add someone who scores and creates goals by the dozen, a marquee player.
 
Madrid can afford mbappe whether we buy morata or not, who cares. If he wants to play for them nothing's going to stop that.
Exactly. He does not want to play for us and we would pay all that money for a couple of years then him hankering after Madrid. There would be no chance in hell of us making any money on him.
 
How can the last £19m be a deal breaker for you if you were happy with the player at £60m?

If he is right for us I hope we sign him, even if we pay £79m.

£79m isn't even that obscene in this market for a 24 year old striker, and please don't give me that "bench player" shite again, he is on the bench because Benzema is the best foil for Ronaldo and the one he prefers to play with.

I bet some of those millions will be bonuses and performance based as well.

We can afford to give Real 150m does that mean we should? They can feck off and we move on just as we would if Morata had decided to stay.
 
- We are buying a player they would like to keep as backup and who they use plenty
- We are desperate for a striker
- We are minted
- Madrid doesn't need the money
- He is a homemade product and Madrid fan, won't push for a move publicly

They hold all the cards and are doing what a savvy club in the transfer market should do, sadly we're not as savvy but no one could glare into a crystall ball and predict Zlatan's injury.

Except Zlatan's injury was April. What have the scouting department been doing since then? Why was Woodward allowed a vacation during a vital part of the year for his role? Who is running this organization?
 
We can afford to give Real 150m does that mean we should? They can feck off and we move on just as we would if Morata had decided to stay.

But they are not asking for 150m are they? Besides we would never pay that.

My point is that with our finances a player that is right for us at £60m is also right for us at £79m.

£19m gets you a youngish gamble type of talent these days in the PL.

Yes we'll overpay by about £20m or so, but no one will fecking care if he starts banging in 25+ for us, which I think he can be capable of if given the chance.

I can understand the argument about how us paying such extortionate sums might hamper us further down the road when we try to sign players, but we won't always be desperate when trying to sign someone like we are now.

We are desperate for goals and attacking additions, Morata this season and Griezman for his release clause next season will go a long way in sorting that. By then we will have a strong core with quality in defence, quality in midfield and quality in attack, and we won't longer shop from a desperate starting point, but more of a standpoint where we are looking for that additional edge for the team.
 
Except Zlatan's injury was April. What have the scouting department been doing since then? Why was Woodward allowed a vacation during a vital part of the year for his role? Who is running this organization?
This is when Ed takes his holidays. He will want to be circulating in the US while the team is on tour.
 
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