Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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But, there is less scoring in Ligue 1. And I personally value seeing a striker be the "man" who the opposing team is trying to stop versus someone who is usually coming on against tired defenses.
That's only because he's gonna do well to get games ahead of Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema... he'll be the man at United.
 
this one will rumble on, for the past 2 weeks the media kept on saying 48 hrs then next week and now they are saying before the 9th july lol, proves they talk shite
Yeah, the 48 hour thing is code for "I haven't the foggiest idea but want to be the one that "breaks" this first". Pure guesswork. Happened all summer with Pogba.
 
Chelsea and AC Milan have been linked. Earlier in the window, AC Milan were reported to be signing him but presumably couldn't afford him.
I wouldn't be surprised if he told AC that he wanted move to United effectively ending their pursuit of him.
 
Read somewhere that Madrid fans have compared him to Fernando Morientes during his golden years. I can kind of see that likeness in his style. But I think he can become better with the right environment.

I know it's not as exciting a signing as Griezman for many, but I'd be over the moon if this goes thru.
 
He has scored 30 goals in his last 3 seasons, and has an even lower average if you add the 3 seasons before that. I have no idea why people are getting excited about signing this guy?

We had a lot of problems last season getting goals and based on his record, Morata wont change that. We should really be going for a striker like Aubameyang or Lacazette who guarantee you a good goals per games ratio every season.
 
He has scored 30 goals in his last 3 seasons, and has an even lower average if you add the 3 seasons before that. I have no idea why people are getting excited about signing this guy?

We had a lot of problems last season getting goals and based on his record, Morata wont change that. We should really be going for a striker like Aubameyang or Lacazette who guarantee you a good goals per games ratio every season.
Has he been a regular during those 3 years?
 
Has he been a regular during those 3 years?

He Made 63 appearances for Juventus and scored 15 goals. Then made 26 appearances for Real Madrid and scored 15. Thats regular enough.

Not to mention he had some of the best assisting players in the world at Juve and Madrid, really should have done much better.
 
Has he been a regular during those 3 years?

Want to add another thing, I have watched this video some days ago :



Did anyone notice he was deployed a lot on the left side ? like a LW ? I have seen many comments on the video pointing to this, too.

He seems to get the ball on the left flank and away from the goal. No surprise his goal scoring wasn't high enough if he was really playing like this in Juve.

In fact watching this video makes me feel he was like Mandzukic being deployed on the wing this season, too, for tactical reason rather scoring goals, and it was the same manager ( Allegri ).
 
I'd have thought the 'excitement' is obvious. Morata is on the cusp of breaking out into an absolutely world class forward. He has all the tools to do so, proving himself to be very useful - although not amazing - for two of the best teams in Europe, whilst boasting a fairly decent return in the CL. There is obvious risks attached to the signing - whilst his goal per minute ratio this season is exceptional he hasn't been a regular and hasn't had any truly impressive goal-scoring seasons.
Still, I can't help but find the other available options a much of a muchness. The likes of Lukaku, Lacazette, Belotti, and Aubameyang fill me with just as much - or little - 'excitement' as Morata does. Not to mention that at least one or two of those really don't suit the style of football Mourinho tends to implement and will be a little contrary to sign them for such reasons.
 
Did anyone notice he was deployed a lot on the left side ? like a LW ? I have seen many comments on the video pointing to this, too.

If this is the case, that's even more reason not to sign him. £60m+ for a left attacking winger, when we already have Martial and Rashford who can play there :confused:

We need a goal scoring MACHINE. 30+ a season, not a over rated, over priced, Spanish Giroud
 
If this is the case, that's even more reason not to sign him. £60m+ for a left attacking winger, when we already have Martial and Rashford who can play there :confused:

We need a goal scoring MACHINE. 30+ a season, not a over rated, over priced, Spanish Giroud
Behave yourself, man.
 
If this is the case, thats even more reason not to sign him. £60m+ for a left attacking winger, when we already have Martial and Rashford who can play there :confused:

We need a goal scoring MACHINE. 30+ a season, not a over rated, over priced, Spanish Giroud

He's not going to play as a LW here, he was a striker for Madrid this last season.

What I said that Allegri may have done to him like what he did with Mandzukic ( who won't play as winger in any other team ), deploy him as a winger for his physicality and hold up play, assisting the other 2 attacking players. Manduzkic only scored 7 goals this season, a record similar to Morata's at Juve.
 
He Made 63 appearances for Juventus and scored 15 goals. Then made 26 appearances for Real Madrid and scored 15. Thats regular enough.

Not to mention he had some of the best assisting players in the world at Juve and Madrid, really should have done much better.
You should state how many of those appearances he started, and how many he got subbed on. On a goal pr. Minutes ratio he's quite decent imo.
 
He's in the mold of a perfect no.9 for me, he works hard, runs the channels, fast, tall, decent in the air, technically sound and can score goals, wtf else do you want from a forward.

It wont fix all our attacking issues in one go, but thats why we should be after a 2nd target; A no.10 or attacking wideman who can also chip in with 15+ goals/assists a season.
Morata at 9 and Griezmann at 10 would have been the perfect combo.
 
Want to add another thing, I have watched this video some days ago :



Did anyone notice he was deployed a lot on the left side ? like a LW ? I have seen many comments on the video pointing to this, too.

He seems to get the ball on the left flank and away from the goal. No surprise his goal scoring wasn't high enough if he was really playing like this in Juve.

In fact watching this video makes me feel he was like Mandzukic being deployed on the wing this season, too, for tactical reason rather scoring goals, and it was the same manager ( Allegri ).

That has always been the thing and several people mentioned that. He didn't play upfront on a regular basis, hence his "poor" record. But some people just want to see what they want to see
 
He's in the mold of a perfect no.9 for me, he works hard, runs the channels, fast, tall, decent in the air, technically sound and can score goals, wtf else do you want from a forward.

It wont fix all our attacking issues in one go, but thats why we should be after a 2nd target; A no.10 or attacking wideman who can also chip in with 15+ goals/assists a season.
Morata at 9 and Griezmann at 10 would have been the perfect combo.
I also have the feeling that he'll be perfect for the new system for next season. Better fit than Griezmann imo
 
Morata is the perfect number 9 and will easily score 30+ for us should he sign.
Last time someone scored 30 goals for us, it was Van Persie in 2012/13 with 30, and Rooney in 2011/12 with 34. Now Morata is an exceptional talent, but he isn't on peak RvP/Rooney level yet and our team is also weaker, no way will he easily score 30+

You're probably not serious though.
 
I am not actually saying that Lukaku can dribble better than Morata. They both beat a bunch of defenders but only one of them actually put the ball in the back of the net. He just beat four defenders and a goal keeper in much tighter space and showed his strength there hence I am not sure why that would be messy. It may look awkward because he's just that big and it's not normal for big players to be able to do that.

Morata's dribble had much lesser angle to deal with. He knocked the ball past defenders twice and then made sure he didn't give defenders a chance. While it's good, it's not something that sets him apart.

At end of the day, both those dribbles are due to some very poor defending. If I try to think about good dribbling strikers, I'd be thinking of Aguero, Suarez, Mbappe. Lukaku and Morata wouldn't really make the list there.

You are missing the point,

The point that I tried to make by posting Morata's video is that Morata can dribble the ball with good ball control like the one he did vs Bayern and that's what Lukaku cannot do. And the video of Lukaku's goal vs Chelsea showed Lukaku didn't actually beat chelsea defenders with his dribbling skills and ball control since he rarely touch the ball. He was using his pace to make run and strength to beat defenders. That's why I called that dribble is messy because no ball control and no pure skills or technique. Just pure physical attribute.
 
He Made 63 appearances for Juventus and scored 15 goals. Then made 26 appearances for Real Madrid and scored 15. Thats regular enough.

Not to mention he had some of the best assisting players in the world at Juve and Madrid, really should have done much better.
If this is the case, that's even more reason not to sign him. £60m+ for a left attacking winger, when we already have Martial and Rashford who can play there :confused:

We need a goal scoring MACHINE. 30+ a season, not a over rated, over priced, Spanish Giroud
So you just went on Wikipedia, looked at the info box, saw that he was a striker, had a quick peek under "Senior Career", and that's all the time you've bothered to put into researching the player.

Are you trolling, or? Neither Martial nor Rashford are wide players (despite having been deployed there), same goes for Morata. Young strikers/forwards are often deployed on the wings to give them game time.
 
Stats are obviously a barometer but far too many people seem to completely base their opinion of a player using them. It's pretty obvious to me watching Morata that he has a lot of ability and can become something special - whether or not he's worth what we're apparently willing to pay is debatable but at 24, he'll get better and is a lot more mobile than the likes of Lukaku...maybe he'll never be as prolific but I think he's a better fit.
 
1. Unless you are personally keeping a goal tally on Moratas career, I'm assuming you would also use a reliable website to get those numbers?

2. I support Madrid in Spain, I watch them regularly and have seen Morata play over the last year. He isn't world class. No mater how badly people want it to be true, to justify us signing him, he isn't. It's time we stopped hyping up mediocre signings to make ourselves feel better, this is the reason we haven't challenged for the league or champions league in years.

3. Martial and Rashford in my opinion, are both better at running at defenders from the wing. We tried Martial as a forward in his first season and it wasn't very successful.
 
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He has scored 30 goals in his last 3 seasons, and has an even lower average if you add the 3 seasons before that. I have no idea why people are getting excited about signing this guy?

We had a lot of problems last season getting goals and based on his record, Morata wont change that. We should really be going for a striker like Aubameyang or Lacazette who guarantee you a good goals per games ratio every season.

But but Jose prefers him. If Jose thinks a striker is good enough, then the striker automatically becomes a star. It doesn't matter if we get fleeced by Real, it's not our money anyway. We have money so let's buy all the average players by paying OTT transfer fees and let's get fleeced by every team we deal with.
 
But but Jose prefers him. If Jose thinks a striker is good enough, then the striker automatically becomes a star. It doesn't matter if we get fleeced by Real, it's not our money anyway. We have money so let's buy all the average players by paying OTT transfer fees and let's get fleeced by every team we deal with.

Amen
 
2. I support Madrid in Spain, I watch them regularly and have seen Morata play over the last year. He isn't world class. No mater how badly people want it to be true, to justify us signing him, he isn't. It's time we stopped hyping up mediocre signings to make ourselves feel better, this is the reason we haven't challenged for the league or champions league in years.

Well, that's why we finish 6th. Because of paying OTT for mediocrity, while other teams unearth good players by paying peanuts.
 
But but Jose prefers him. If Jose thinks a striker is good enough, then the striker automatically becomes a star. It doesn't matter if we get fleeced by Real, it's not our money anyway. We have money so let's buy all the average players by paying OTT transfer fees and let's get fleeced by every team we deal with.
Poor wum attempt.
 
Last time someone scored 30 goals for us, it was Van Persie in 2012/13 with 30, and Rooney in 2011/12 with 34. Now Morata is an exceptional talent, but he isn't on peak RvP/Rooney level yet and our team is also weaker, no way will he easily score 30+

You're probably not serious though.
He's just deluded. As are a lot of United fans atm. Morata is suddenly on the brink of world class.
 
1. Unless you are personally keeping a goal tally on Moratas career, I'm assuming you would also use a reliable website to get those number?

2. I support Madrid in Spain, I watch them regularly and have seen Morata play over the last year. He isn't world class. No mater how badly people want it to be true, to justify us signing him, he isn't. It's time we stopped hyping up mediocre signings to make ourselves feel better, this is the reason we haven't challenged for the league or champions league in years.

3. Martial and Rashford in my opinion, are both better at running at defenders from the wing. We tried Martial as a forward in his first season and it wasn't very successful.
Thankyou. His ability immediately doubled as soon as we got linked with him, it's ridiculous.
 
Just had a quick look at Drogba's Chelsea scoring record. Hardly prolific, yet I seem to remember him as one of the best strikers of the premier league era. I'd be more than happy with Morata turning out to be close to Drogba.
 
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