Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

[LuisNaniencia]

Alvaro Morata, what a wonderful phrase

Alvaro Morata, aint no passing craze

Alvaro Morata! What a wonderful face
Alvaro Morata! Ain't no passing craze
It means no worries for the rest of your days
It's our goal-scoring philosophy
Alvaro Morata!

super.

 

[Dans]

Just curious, has he ever scored more than 20 goals in a season?

No.

 

[RDCR07]

Nope. His 20 goal tally last season was his highest ever.

So he has never scored over 20 goals in a season. He has never been first choice no matter which club he played for. He has played as a striker throughout his career. And we are about to drop 60-70m on him? Again similar to Perisic dont think people would be against this transfer if it cost around 30-35m.

 

[Adam-Utd]

They're signing lukaku

 

[Satissh12]

@PeoplesPerson_: Alvaro Morata's agent has been talking. Confirms an offer from Man United + says it is now up to Real Madrid

http://www.calciomercato.com/news/a...osa-e-successo-con-il-milan-sullo-unite-24301

 

[Wade3]

So he has never scored over 20 goals in a season. He has never been first choice no matter which club he played for. He has played as a striker throughout his career. And we are about to drop 60-70m on him? Again similar to Perisic dont think people would be against this transfer if it cost around 30-35m.

That's essentially my line of thinking. Yes, it's a bit too simplistic, but concerns are definitely justified.

 

[tomaldinho1]

So he has never scored over 20 goals in a season. He has never been first choice no matter which club he played for. He has played as a striker throughout his career. And we are about to drop 60-70m on him? Again similar to Perisic dont think people would be against this transfer if it cost around 30-35m.

I agree with this - didn't RM buy him back (with the clause) for about £30m? He has featured more this season and got a decent goal return but surely his price hasn't doubled!? If he had become the main guy at Madrid I could see sense in the huge fee being touted but it seems to me he is firmly behind a number of other attacking players in the pecking order there, despite his goal return.

 

[Utd7]

So he has never scored over 20 goals in a season. He has never been first choice no matter which club he played for. He has played as a striker throughout his career. And we are about to drop 60-70m on him? Again similar to Perisic dont think people would be against this transfer if it cost around 30-35m.

Transfer market is inflated especially for strikers. There aren't many elite that are available (Lewa, Suarez, Dybala, etc) are already with top clubs who don't need to sell.


With that being said I feel confident that Morata will be a success with us. Mourinho knows him well and I trust his judgement and analysis of the player.

A year from now we won't be talking about his fee.

 

[mu4c_20le]

So he has never scored over 20 goals in a season. He has never been first choice no matter which club he played for. He has played as a striker throughout his career. And we are about to drop 60-70m on him? Again similar to Perisic dont think people would be against this transfer if it cost around 30-35m.

No chance. Silva an young and upcoming striker just moved for that amount after one decent full season in the portuguese league. Morata is more experienced and far more developed, not to mention having competed with WC players for plaing time.

 

[Z_Wolf]

Morata's agent interview tweeted above translated by Google:

Did Milan really feel for Morata?
'Yes, there have been frequent contacts with us until a few days ago, I can confirm it'
What did not go in the right direction?
'Real Madrid has simply found the Rossoneri club's offer unsatisfactory.'
Now its future can be in England, Manchester United ...
'It's a great club, a very interesting option'
Have you said yes to their proposal?
'I can say that this is a very important proposal and now the decision is real.'
Can you close in a short time?
'I can not tell you this, we'll see'.

 

[Ibi Dreams]

So he has never scored over 20 goals in a season. He has never been first choice no matter which club he played for. He has played as a striker throughout his career. And we are about to drop 60-70m on him? Again similar to Perisic dont think people would be against this transfer if it cost around 30-35m.

Scoring 20 goals whilst not being first choice is pretty damn good. He's only 24 and has been at Juve and Real Madrid - not exactly the easiest of first elevens to get into. Madrid and Juve fans seem to really rate him, and think he can step up and score more if given the chance.

If his price is 60m and we don't go for him because of that, who else do we go for? Realistically any quality striker is likely to cost us at least that much, unless we manage to unearth some hidden gem, which is very unlikely.

 

[KM]

Delaney in Independent saying that we want Morata for medical this week after productive talks with Madrid.

 

[beingshe7don]

Till Chelsea haven't signed Lukaku, the Morata deal can still be threatened. Chelsea are the only ones who were interested in him apart from us and they can compete when it comes to wages. Milan on the other hand have signed Andre Silva, so the rumor of him going to Milan can be put to bed.

 

[RDCR07]

Till Chelsea haven't signed Lukaku, the Morata deal can still be threatened. Chelsea are the only ones who were interested in him apart from us and they can compete when it comes to wages. Milan on the other hand have signed Andre Silva, so the rumor of him going to Milan can be put to bed.

I dont think Chelsea are really a problem. They will only sign one of Lukaku or Morata. If they have sign one we will sign the other. Simple as.

 

[AndyJ1985]

Just goes to show even the so-called reliable journalists are bullshitters. This was supposed to be done and dusted already.

 

[RDCR07]

Transfer market is inflated especially for strikers. There aren't many elite that are available (Lewa, Suarez, Dybala, etc) are already with top clubs who don't need to sell.

I would prefer Lazacette. He has proven himself more over the years and will cost around/if not less than Morata.

 

[RedCurry]

Nope. His 20 goal tally last season was his highest ever.

And yet, some of our fans would tell you that he's better than the premier league experienced Lukaku who has scored 20+ league goals in last three of his seasons playing for Everton and who is actually a few months younger.

 

[Kill 'em all]

And yet, some of our fans would tell you that he's better than the premier league experienced Lukaku who has scored 20+ league goals in last three of his seasons playing for Everton and who is actually a few months younger.

Nope. His 20 goal tally last season was his highest ever.

Juventus

1st season
League 8 goals + 5 assists in 11 starts
Champions league 5 goals + 2 assists in 9 starts

2nd season
League 7 goals + 7 assists in 16 starts
Champions league 2 goals + 2 assists in 6 starts.

Real Madrid
League 15 goals + 4 assists in 1334 minutes(a goal every 88 mins)
Champions leauge 3 goals +1 assist in 167 minutes(a goal every 55 minutes)

That at least sounds statistically better than Lukaku who took 3267 minutes to score 25 goals and make 6 assists which is 130 minutes per goal.

 

[Infra-red]

And yet, some of our fans would tell you that he's better than the premier league experienced Lukaku who has scored 20+ league goals in last three of his seasons playing for Everton and who is actually a few months younger.

Drogba only managed more than 12 league goals in a season twice in 9 years at Chelsea. More to being a good striker than just goals.

 

[RDCR07]

Juventus

1st season
League 8 goals + 5 assists in 11 starts
Champions league 5 goals + 2 assists in 9 starts

2nd season
League 7 goals + 7 assists in 16 starts
Champions league 2 goals + 2 assists in 6 starts.

Real Madrid
League 15 goals + 4 assists in 1334 minutes(a goal every 88 mins)
Champions leauge 3 goals +1 assist in 167 minutes(a goal every 55 minutes)

That at least sounds statistically better than Lukaku.

Because playing for 2 of the top 5 teams in Europe with the surrounding cast/attack they have is the same as playing for Everton in the premier league?

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Surely Jose wouldn't buy Morata to play him on the wing, would he?

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Surely Jose wouldn't buy Morata to play him on the wing, would he?

Highly unlikely given the fee we would be spending. Besides the interest in Perišić seems genuine.

 

[Utd7]

Surely Jose wouldn't buy Morata to play him on the wing, would he?

Nah, he's a No. 9

What makes you think he would consider playing him on the wing?

 

[el3mel]

Surely Jose wouldn't buy Morata to play him on the wing, would he?

If he was planning to do that, we wouldn't have been trying to get Perisic.

 

[Kill 'em all]

Because playing for 2 of the top 5 teams in Europe with the surrounding cast/attack they have is the same as playing for Everton in the premier league?

Yet other players like Neymar and Benzema played more than twice his amount of minutes and didn't score more than Morata. Not to mention Morata is also the 2nd highest goalscoring Real Madrid player after Ronaldo with a conversion rate of 27%

 

[AdNani]

And yet, some of our fans would tell you that he's better than the premier league experienced Lukaku who has scored 20+ league goals in last three of his seasons playing for Everton and who is actually a few months younger.

If you've watched the 2 of them play, its quite easy to see that Morata is the better footballer technically. He's scored and performed very well in big games, which is the biggest criticism of lukaku. Premier League proven is a big pro for Lukaku but its not a big difference for me if I'm honest, we'd be overpaying either way, 100 million for someone with an extremely poor record again top teams or 60 million for a back up.

 

[pocco]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

 

[RedCurry]

Drogba only managed more than 12 league goals in a season twice in 9 years at Chelsea. More to being a good striker than just goals.

Just the fact that you had to go as far back as Drogba sort of reflects on how rare that is. And certainly the league is far more competitive now and I would argue that it's an absolute must to have a proven goalscorer leading your team.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Nah, he's a No. 9

What makes you think he would consider playing him on the wing?

Because the amount of sources saying we're in for Belotti too, meaning one would probably play on the wing. Morata can play on the wing.

 

[RDCR07]

Because the amount of sources saying we're in for Belotti too, meaning one would probably play on the wing. Morata can play on the wing.

Belotti aint happening. Also hypothetical if it does happen then we aint signing Morata.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Highly unlikely given the fee we would be spending. Besides the interest in Perišić seems genuine.

If he was planning to do that, we wouldn't have been trying to get Perisic.

Ye guess so. Just don't understand the Belotti links. Can't see us splashing out on two strikers.

 

[RedCurry]

If you've watched the 2 of them play, its quite easy to see that Morata is the better footballer technically. He's scored and performed very well in big games, which is the biggest criticism of lukaku. Premier League proven is a big pro for Lukaku but its not a big difference for me if I'm honest, we'd be overpaying either way, 100 million for someone with an extremely poor record again top teams or 60 million for a back up.

Do you not think that against big teams, Lukaku is extremely under appreciated? Everton plays like minnows against big sides. You could blame the guy for losing the ball but what's a striker supposed to do when he has very little support?

 

[poleglass red]

transfer market is super inflated, on that there is no disagreement. We will overpay no matter who we buy. I think where the risk is here with Morata is, can he step up and be a consistent goalscorer over a whole season. He hasn't played a whole season it seems in his last 3 seasons. For 60 mill or whatever it ends up being, doing it over 15 games is not enough. Like any transfer it carries an element of risk, in this case more so than others. It's one I think we should take and I think we will make.I'd be surpri
sed if we don't tie this one up pretty quickly

 

[Kill 'em all]

Do you not think that against big teams, Lukaku is extremely under appreciated? Everton plays like minnows against big sides. You could blame the guy for losing the ball but what's a striker supposed to do when he has very little support?

Having the first touch and close control of a donkey surely doesn't help his cause.

 

[el3mel]

Ye guess so. Just don't understand the Belotti links. Can't see us splashing out on two strikers.

We won't do it due to the heavy price of both.

But thinking about it, Ferguson always got at least 3 good to great strikers. Jose also in all his teams at least got 2 super strikers. The season is long and you don't know what will happen regarding injuries. I'll love the idea of getting both a lot, but it won't happen.

 

[AdNani]

Do you not think that against big teams, Lukaku is extremely under appreciated? Everton plays like minnows against big sides. You could blame the guy for losing the ball but what's a striker supposed to do when he has very little support?

Lack of support isn't his problem though for me, his touch is inconsistent anyway, but its far more apparent against better defenders. His link up/hold up play is horrific for someone of his size. He's a terrific finisher, but even that in the big games has been lacking.

In Morata having less league experience, could we balance that out by saying he's far more proven at Champions League level? Something Belotti and Lukaku have little to no experience in.

 

[elnorte]

Very strong and deceptively good at dribbling in tight spaces. A workhorse up front, a handful for CBs really.

Very clinical finisher, good in the air, quite the poacher and his all round game is quite good. He's at his best when teams allow him space to run into.

Cheers. Appreciate the info.

 

[RedCurry]

Juventus

1st season
League 8 goals + 5 assists in 11 starts
Champions league 5 goals + 2 assists in 9 starts

2nd season
League 7 goals + 7 assists in 16 starts
Champions league 2 goals + 2 assists in 6 starts.

Real Madrid
League 15 goals + 4 assists in 1334 minutes(a goal every 88 mins)
Champions leauge 3 goals +1 assist in 167 minutes(a goal every 55 minutes)

That at least sounds statistically better than Lukaku who took 3267 minutes to score 25 goals and make 6 assists which is 130 minutes per goal.

Goals per minute stat can't be the reason why a team like Man Utd buys a striker. I can find you plenty of players who have better goals per minute stat. There is a huge difference in being that player who leads the line for 90 minutes for a team that would in most games be happy to score 1 or 2 compared to being an impact sub for a European giant.

 

[Infra-red]

Just the fact that you had to go as far back as Drogba sort of reflects on how rare that is. And certainly the league is far more competitive now and I would argue that it's an absolute must to have a proven goalscorer leading your team.

I was just making the point that Mourinho looks for more from his strikers than just goals. Drogba and Benzema were tasked with bringing others in to play and most of the goals in those two Mourinho sides came either from midfield or out wide. Morata will score plenty, but he'll also be expected to bring Rashford, Martial, Mata, Pogba and Mkhitaryan (and possibly a new wide forward) in to play, something he is far more adept at than Lukaku.

 

[dakingpin1999]

Morata better come and score goals. Cant stand another season when utd spend a fortune to boss 6th. Jose better find a system against the big boys which provide service for morata other wise its pointless spending 75m. Lukaku will cause so much damage in the chelsea system and he will go up a level for sure with his movement