Álvaro Morata | Chelsea player

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Al-Va-Ro Mo-Ra-Ta-Ta-Ta
he is an italian hero
on the plane from sunny spain
his origin is in the euros (? unverified)
6 foot two, dear as feck
he gets madrid excited
half the money for mbappe
and we think the biggest club is united
Wtf is this supposed to be?
 
Exactly. Even if supply is low and demand is high that doesn't mean you can't get ripped off. People think in these market conditions you can't get ripped off and pay whatever. Buy you can.

You get ripped off only if supply is low and demand is high:rolleyes:
 
All these drones who keep using the phrase "reserve" and "backup" are super irritating.
It's like they can't understand that Real Madrid are a superstar team right now, so not getting into their 11 every week isn't exactly a disgrace.
He's a squad player rather than a "reserve" anyway.

You'd think we were trying to bid sky high money for a player who couldn't get near Southampton's team in an injury crisis or something.
 
All these drones who keep using the phrase "reserve" and "backup" are super irritating.
It's like they can't understand that Real Madrid are a superstar team right now, so not getting into their 11 every week isn't exactly a disgrace.
He's a squad player rather than a "reserve" anyway.

You'd think we were trying to bid sky high money for a player who couldn't get near Southampton's team in an injury crisis or something.
Even as a "reserve" player he scored more goals than anyone else in that team bar Ronaldo.
 
All these drones who keep using the phrase "reserve" and "backup" are super irritating.
It's like they can't understand that Real Madrid are a superstar team right now, so not getting into their 11 every week isn't exactly a disgrace.
He's a squad player rather than a "reserve" anyway.

You'd think we were trying to bid sky high money for a player who couldn't get near Southampton's team in an injury crisis or something.

These people are probably the same ones who clamoured for Robben and Sneijder one year after they left Madrid.
 
Do you guys really think this will go this smoothly? That Monday will arrive and we will see him doing a medical and he signs? Where is the drama in that? Where are the tears and it's on and it's off moments? At least we might have a flight tracker. :(
 
Sorry how does that work? I've never heard of that.
It's some FFP dodging bollocks whereby the "option to buy" in two years has already been exercised and the cash starts flowing in instalments but, for accounting (and FFP tallying) purposes, the transaction only gets booked in 2019.

It's essentially a work around for a new rich owner to come in, buy an entire new team, and defer it into the future for compliance. So long as it doesn't catch up with them it's all good. Looking at the fees these days, it is bound to snowball.
 
There is no such thing as overpaying when it's a supply and demand market.

If you walk into a shop and pay £100 for a fecking Mars bar, then you're overpaying. I do not know how people do not understand this elementary thing.

We need a good striker but good strikers are hard to come by. So we have to pay the premium price, because, you know, a good striker is not a fecking chocolate bar and you can just pick one up at your local corner shop.

Real Madrid hold all the cards as they do not need to sell so they can name thier price. What the feck do expect Perez to do? Gift wrap the cnut and give him to us for €30 million euro as gesture of good will?

When you get passed all that, you have to realise that every single person who knows who Manchester United are, knows that we're swimming in fecking cash. Like drowing in gold ffs. What do you experts expect the selling clubs to do? Just fecking give their commodities to us for a fecking rock bottom price. Thats not how it works. It really doesn't take a genius to work this out cause I'm fecking ain't!

This is a good post. Some people shouldo do bascic microeconomy lessons before they open their mouths about prices.
 
This is a good post. Some people shouldo do bascic microeconomy lessons before they open their mouths about prices.

Ah and yet so many grammatical errors. Ah well, I'm drunk. :cool:
 
It's some FFP dodging bollocks whereby the "option to buy" in two years has already been exercised and the cash starts flowing in instalments but, for accounting (and FFP tallying) purposes, the transaction only gets booked in 2019.

It's essentially a work around for a new rich owner to come in, buy an entire new team, and defer it into the future for compliance. So long as it doesn't catch up with them it's all good. Looking at the fees these days, it is bound to snowball.

Ah clever. Thats why i love accounting.
 
It's some FFP dodging bollocks whereby the "option to buy" in two years has already been exercised and the cash starts flowing in instalments but, for accounting (and FFP tallying) purposes, the transaction only gets booked in 2019.

It's essentially a work around for a new rich owner to come in, buy an entire new team, and defer it into the future for compliance. So long as it doesn't catch up with them it's all good. Looking at the fees these days, it is bound to snowball.


Fantastic insight. Cheers.
 
Where did you find his conversion rate?
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He's probably quoting that. :)
 
Premier league TV money:
United, 16/17(5th): £143m.
Newcastle, 11/12(5th): £54 m.

A £30m(55% of 11/12 premier league money) player 5 years ago would be the equivalent of a £79m(55% of 16/17 premier league money) player today.
£70m for Morata? Seems pretty cheap to me

It's actually €70m as it looks now, but nevermind. You certainly seem to like numbers 483972.
 
Al-Va-Ro Mo-Ra-Ta-Ta-Ta
he is an italian hero
on the plane from sunny spain
his origin is in the euros (? unverified)
6 foot two, dear as feck
he gets madrid excited
half the money for mbappe
and we think the biggest club is united


:lol:

Brilliant
 
According to some Real Madrid fans, Morata's father works for Cadena Ser and Cope, and they are saying that the deal is done for €70m. They are also saying that James is heading to PSG for €70m.
 
This is a good post. Some people shouldo do bascic microeconomy lessons before they open their mouths about prices.

This is valid for a player that is key to a team we're buying it from. In Morata's case there doesn't seem to be many other options for him(someone who is willing to pay 70m EUR besides us) and with WC coming up he needs game time. With being unlikely to get that at Real, dragging the transfer and negotiating the price down seems logic as if he doesn't move Real could have unsettled player sitting on their books.

We even got di Maria for less, although he was key player to Real's CL run in 2014 and it was just 3 years ago.

Imagine this, is anyone willing to pay even 50m EUR for an attacker who is our second option at the moment?

All in all think we're rushing this up as we most likely can get a better deal if we flirt with other options (Bellotti/Lacazette) just to drive his price down.

Real are in no rush to sell but Morata will want first team football and can drive the price down without being promised that.
 
Will be much cheaper than Lukaku, so not sure point of this post. Any striker we sign, that club would be laughing to the bank.
for the cash id rather lukaku. scores for fun in a meh everton side, would bag for mourinho's style of play.

isnt Aubameyang touted for same price?

its because the club have made it so obvious a striker is desperately needed, clubs want to fleece. rookie mistake
 
Do you guys really think this will go this smoothly? That Monday will arrive and we will see him doing a medical and he signs? Where is the drama in that? Where are the tears and it's on and it's off moments? At least we might have a flight tracker. :(
He doesn't deserve the propaganda tbh.
 
Robben
Costa
Coeman
Ribery
Thiago
Vidal
Sanchez
Martinez
Bernat
Alaba
Rafinha

Of course Lahm and muller are homegrown as is benko

Lewendowski was technically a free agent and not signed from another club but even if you count him
Hummles
Kimmich
Ulrich (reserve keeper)
Neuer

So 11 vs 5 or 6

One of us must be shit at math because I can't see how the vast majority of their signings are from German clubs

Just shit logic to look at 15 current players and use that as a foundation for Bayerns transfer history.

Since 10/11:

58 players brought into Bayerns first team. 10 of those are players brought up from their reserve teams. Out of the remaining 48 signings, 28 of them are from germany. Which means roughly 60% of their signings are from other german clubs.

Good luck finding similar numbers for any of the top clubs in England.

The longer one look back, the more it increases.

If Bayern had a similar situation as we do, they'd have to spend a lot more on transfers and wages.
 
All of the people crying about the money, why? Are you CEO's? Are you financial directors?

Way too many football managers on this site.

Some people played too much Football Manager.

It's bizarre how fans worry about amounts of money that a multi-million corporation like United spends on players.
 
Well im just back from watching a few yt clips of his juve and rm days... Damn im just super excited, just got the muppet juices flowing heavy.

Hes tall, great technique, enough pace and strong enough for a wednesday evening at stoke (haha messi)... Hes just the front man that mourinho usually deploys. Im chuffed for this! Please ed, dont screw this one up
 
Real's second top scorer to Ronaldo and only plays a 'bit part'....got a conversion rate that only Messi betters in La Liga and Mourinho knows the guy (infact he gave him his debut at Madrid) yet people think he's shite.

He doesn't play because Benzema is a big part of ZZ' tactics, just like Mbappe doesn't start for France ahead of Giroud, a manager wants different things from different players.

He'll do well here. Get a good DM to free up Pogba and add a proper Mourinho winger to the side and our attack will already look 10 times better.
 
How is his movement? His pace and finishing is decent, but I haven't caught up on his movement yet.

Been one of our biggest weaknesses this season imo, Rashford not experienced enough, Martial not good enough and Zlatan too static.

It's good. He runs the channels, drags players to create space for others and he will be on the other end to head the cross that is coming into the box.

Morata will come good. The only questions is if he'll be good with 25 goals or best striker in the league. That I really can't tell.

Someone already mentioned two issues:

1. he works hard but get's tired becauase of that (in your team he'll have less defensive duties so it shouldn't be a problem)

2. his mentality - he get's frustrated too often on the pitch instead of keeping his cool and that surely affects his game (the way I see it that might be down to his role in both Madrid and Juve, always coming of the bench needing to make the absoulte best of every oportunity. He won't be under that kind of pressure at United because he's coming in as rhe new starting striker. That should make him more calm and a better, mire focused player overall).
 
Well im just back from watching a few yt clips of his juve and rm days... Damn im just super excited, just got the muppet juices flowing heavy.

Hes tall, great technique, enough pace and strong enough for a wednesday evening at stoke (haha messi)... Hes just the front man that mourinho usually deploys. Im chuffed for this! Please ed, dont screw this one up
he did do well at juve. thzts true
 
I think Real are making a mistake letting him go - good strikers don't grow on trees. Just rotate him with Benzema a bit more next season and keep him for the long term. Still, good news for us that they're up for selling him.
 
for the cash id rather lukaku. scores for fun in a meh everton side, would bag for mourinho's style of play.

isnt Aubameyang touted for same price?

its because the club have made it so obvious a striker is desperately needed, clubs want to fleece. rookie mistake
Yeah we've made it obvious, I'm sure none of the other clubs in Europe knew we needed a striker given we have one fit striker who is 19 years old. We should have kept it on the down low with some secret negotiations, maybe then we would be able to buy Morata for 30 mil :lol:
 
This is valid for a player that is key to a team we're buying it from. In Morata's case there doesn't seem to be many other options for him(someone who is willing to pay 70m EUR besides us) and with WC coming up he needs game time. With being unlikely to get that at Real, dragging the transfer and negotiating the price down seems logic as if he doesn't move Real could have unsettled player sitting on their books.

We even got di Maria for less, although he was key player to Real's CL run in 2014 and it was just 3 years ago.

Imagine this, is anyone willing to pay even 50m EUR for an attacker who is our second option at the moment?

All in all think we're rushing this up as we most likely can get a better deal if we flirt with other options (Bellotti/Lacazette) just to drive his price down.

Real are in no rush to sell but Morata will want first team football and can drive the price down without being promised that.

But Morata is key for Real Madrid. He was their second top scorer last season. Also, Morata being a Madridista would mean that it is highly unlikely for him to get unsettled. We are stuck between a rock and a hard place here unfortunately.
 
Yeah we've made it obvious, I'm sure none of the other clubs in Europe knew we needed a striker given we have one fit striker who is 19 years old. We should have kept it on the down low with some secret negotiations, maybe then we would be able to buy Morata for 30 mil :lol:
zlatan going....being injured was the give away.....

Not fit until 2018... oh hello utd
 
I think Real are making a mistake letting him go - good strikers don't grow on trees. Just rotate him with Benzema a bit more next season and keep him for the long term. Still, good news for us that they're up for selling him.
Real don't need to wait for the rare world class striker branch to grow, they will just buy the branch elsewhere, in this case with Mbappe either this year or the next.
 
I think Real are making a mistake letting him go - good strikers don't grow on trees. Just rotate him with Benzema a bit more next season and keep him for the long term. Still, good news for us that they're up for selling him.
They'll spend €140m on Mbappe.
 
True but that says part of the story. The other side of the story is that its becoming very difficult to buy British talent without spending a fortune. Clubs like Tottenham and Arsenal can afford sending United or Chelsea to feck off quite easily even though the former offered 60m-100m for their players. Juventus/Bayern don't have that issue
Fair point. It's not just the new ownerships pumping money but TV and, through a most generous revenue sharing scheme, we get a bit screwed relative to the top cñubs in the continent.

That said, if we shared it like La Liga does it wouldn't be a league which a club like Leicester can win and then the TV deals are unlikely to be the same.

Either way, I'm not too fussed. I'd rather be where we are than where Real, Barca, Bayern or Juve are. Not current quality or 6th, but the challenging environment. I find Real/Barca/Bayern pretty boring to be honest, also Juve these days (not in the 80s/90s).
 
zlatan going....being injured was the give away.....

Not fit until 2018... oh hello utd
How is it the club's fault that Zlatan got injured then? In your post you said "the club have made it so obvious a striker is desperately needed, clubs want to fleece. rookie mistake"
How is it a rookie mistake for our main striker to get a huge unforseeable injury?
 
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