The guy has proper small man syndrome. Like Craig Bellamy if Bellamy had no ability.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
That's what you get for thank you Eric. Sancho mush be laughing his arse off reading this.
I've seen plenty of arrogant players and plenty of terrible players. Don't think I've seen anyone who has both in such abondance.
He's facing tough competition from... every other big money signing we've made since circa 2012
If true my new favourite player is whoever grassed him up.
I can't decide if Mason Mount counts as an even worse signing. He's our 10th most expensive player EVER. Onana and Casemiro, pound for pound, are looking like utter disasters already Casemiro is at 8th and Onana 15th. But yes Antony is an absolute horror show of a signing.
I think Antony is worse. Mount has a solid catalogue with Chelsea that gives you hope. Antony wasn't even a certified star in the Dutch league and you spunked all that money on him.
Yeah, insult the only person in football who has any time for you. Genius move.
So exactly like Craig Bellamy then
I think it was subsequently reported as a hoax/spoof, though the fact that it's so believable (despite the backing he's received from ETH) maybe indicates a few things...
annoyingly, as much as I disliked him, he was a still a solid mid table forward. Antony isn't PL quality.Aye... It is quite remarkable that - in Antony's head - he is, without a doubt, the greatest footballer in the planet.
Yes, he really wasn't bad, I just couldn't resist
The man is a flop.
Flop is an understatement....
He is simply an awful player who doesn't deserve to play for a Premiership team, ETH should be sacked just for wasting 80m on this imbecile, let alone all the other useless signings he agreed to.
He hasnt been selected in the Brazil Copa America squad
Perhaps, but there's no need to pile excrement on the man. The one aspect of his game I appreciate is his defensive tenacity, but apart from that his performances with the ball at his feet have been poor and there is no evidence of Antony trying to improve his overall game.
"Ten Hag will speak with Antony after today's match". Well informed, this source must be. That, or just full of it.
He was not fancied by the manager in the World Cup either. He is just a bang-average player.
we spend £144 million on Casemiro and Antony for them to miss out on a Brazilian squad that Andreas Pereira is in!
Did he go to Qatar just because he signed for us
Well taken goal on his debut. But have to say I was worried immediately watching him in that game. Looked like he was struggling to take on players and that's what we've been witnessing ever since. Like his work rate and defensive part of play but in attack he's just too limited. Rated his 1st season as solid - giving him benefit of the doubt as first season in PL can be difficult and also because he did look decent in some games. Also being young-ish as well. But second season there's no progress and other than for that goal vs Liverpool he's been poor.
Hopefully it's possible to sell him in the summer. Antony, Greenwood, Sancho we could get decent money for them. Even Rashford but that probably won't happen (also on big wages so not many clubs could afford him).
I suspect I’m the only one who thinks so, but whenever I watch Antony play I always think he looks like a midfielder on the wing. He’s got loads of work rate, an amazing engine, good close control, is press resistant, can carry the ball well. But he lacks that ability to beat a man, more than one in every ten times. He’s predictable as he always cuts in on his favoured foot.
I could easily see another manager turning him into a really good CM. Particularly on the left of a midfield three. He’d be box to box, could recycle possession under pressure really well, and would be effective at carrying the ball in midfield. I know that’s not what you spend 80m on a winger for, but he only got away with being a winger by playing against much lower tier opposition. There’s actually a good player in there, he’s just under the wrong delusion that he’s a winger. He isn’t. I could easily see him doing a Joelinton,
I could easily see another manager turning him into a really good CM. Particularly on the left of a midfield three. He’d be box to box, could recycle possession under pressure really well, and would be effective at carrying the ball in midfield. I know that’s not what you spend 80m on a winger for, but he only got away with being a winger by playing against much lower tier opposition. There’s actually a good player in there, he’s just under the wrong delusion that he’s a winger. He isn’t. I could easily see him doing a Joelinton,
He would be eaten alive in a midfield in the PL. He is not physically imposing, can't head a ball, and he doesn't play enough progressive passes, or should I say, precise passes when it matters. The speed of play seems to be too fast for him. I truly believe the PL is 2 steps higher than his level.
Yep. And played extremely well when called upon - some would say should have started over Raphinha. But hey, he’s awful. we should keep the agenda posting going.
Just out of curiosity.....which game did he play extremely well in?
Someone needs to tell him bald and egghead mean the same thing and it's redundant.
You don't need an agenda to say he's been awful for United, you only need eyes.
I only watched snippets from the Qatar WC.
How did it look when he played extremely well for Brazil (and what was it, 2-3-4 games)?
Did he dribble past players with relative ease, as Raphinha often does?
Was his decision-making any good?
Did his crosses and passes have a decent weight on them?
Or more simply.... did he look like a completely different player from the one we have here?
Do you think he's going to shine, and be the star of a team like Everton, Brendford, Burnely....?
Let's say that the 80-odd million we paid for him is not his fault - I completely agree.
Let's say he had bought him for 40 million, 30 million even.
Do you not think that such a transfer should make teams from the mid-to-bottom part of the table much better?
I think it should, and I don't see him improving any PL team to a great extent.
He is so bad for United that the couple of posters we have here trying to claim otherwise have become very intriguing to me.
You can say that I have an agenda based on dozens of times I watched him play, but that would be weird. I think I have an opinion.
And when he doesn't cut it there another poster will ask us to try him out at fullback. Seen it all before.
I watched him in the World Cup and he was marginally better than what he has been at Utd and from memory he played his most minutes against Cameroon which was the only game they lost in the group stage.
Noo, Noo, Noo,
You need data and stats, xG, xxGA GAxx, xP and PSG.
Your eyes lie to you, just read the Onana threads
ETH picked the wrong guy, he had when he joined Sancho, Amad, Pellistri who were all more than adequate to be a huge improvement on Antony. He’s gone next season, he will be loaned out and sold next year!
I have thought this too. Worth a go
Who's ever done that?
I get what you’re saying but I think the reason why Joelinton successfully transitioned into a CM in a 3 is two-fold: his ability in one v one takeons, and his strength and size. Antony unfortunately has neither of those traits. He’s also hideously one footed.
Perhaps, he could therefore maybe be a poor man’s Di Maria in the midfield like the Argentine did for Ancelotti? Problem there is again, Di Maria was a lot quicker, and a lot more creative. Antony has 3 assists in 53 matches, and I doubt his chance creation stats paint a better picture.
If all Antony offers is ball retention and press resistance, is it actually worth bothering trying to use him in midfield? And that’s without the tactical tinkering — I don’t think you can partner him in there with Fernandes and/or Mount with Mainoo or Casemiro, for instance.
I think the problem with Antony is more simple than that — he has some traits that illustrate top level quality but those in isolation can’t make up for the rest of the shortfalls (the biggest of which is that I just think the PL is too quick for him).
Antony's goals against Liverpool and Burnley were pretty good. Not everyone can score those type of goals.
Whoever sanctioned this move needs to get sacked.
There's Juan Sebastian Veron, who doesn't actually fit the EPL and our style of play but still a classy player, and there's Antony.
There's Juan Sebastian Veron, who doesn't actually fit the EPL and our style of play but still a classy player, and there's Antony.
It's ironic and sums up this season how our worst player is the one who's never injured. (not saying he should be, as I don't wish any player an injury).