pauldyson1uk
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OK so 1 defeat, I had actually forgot about that.We lost to Hull in our last league cup game
OK so 1 defeat, I had actually forgot about that.We lost to Hull in our last league cup game
That's even worse than being wrongYou're right but this is what I'd prefer to see.
Half their team might miss this through injury. If we can't do this lot at Wembley it'd be pretty pathetic.
We don't have anyone playing anything like Mkhitaryan does, so he's a huge miss.The injuries to Carrick and Mkhitariyan, sad as they are for the players, should not affect us too much as we have very good options in both positions as well as much better players in general. And that situation in itself is evidence of the huge progress Mourinho has made this season.
I think our position in the league is a false: fast forward a month or so and I think we'll truly be in the fight for 2nd place. Which is probably a realistic assessment of where we are right now.
Add some new firepower in the summer and trim some more deadwood, and it will be business as usual from next season.
Half their team might miss this through injury. If we can't do this lot at Wembley it'd be pretty pathetic.
We lost to Hull in our last league cup game
not sure he will start with Carrick.
Think we will go for it. Get a couple of goals. Then contain. He may come on last 30 minutes.
They are missing Van Dijk, Boufal and Austin.
We will probably be missing Jones and Mkhitaryan. I assume De Gea will be back?
Summary: just about normal.
Boufal could be available, Puel will decide tomorrow.
Lingard in for Mkhitaryan or Fellaini in a 4-3-3?not sure he will start with Carrick.
Would you put Rashford as the 10? He hasn't played there at all.Would make no sense to play cunning Lingard ahead of both Fellatio and the Rash.
OK so 1 defeat, I had actually forgot about that.
Yeah I don't reckon Carrick will start. Fellaini actually did alright against St Etienne so he might be in. Or maybe even Rashford/Mata/Martial behind Ibra, with Pogba and Herrera in a two, if we are feeling bold. My guess is Fellatio will start before the Rash, as in life.
Lingard in for Mkhitaryan or Fellaini in a 4-3-3?
I wonder if Bailly isn't about to be dropped.I expect to start with a 433.
DDG
Valencia Bailly Smalling Blind
Herrera Carrick Pogba
Mata Ibra Martial
Maybe, but if he drops players every time they make a mistake he'll end up with a team that doesn't trust themselves and doesn't feel they're backed by the manager. If it was becoming a trend, or was a performance issue i can understand that, but not at one bad game, that we didn't lose.I wonder if Bailly isn't about to be dropped.
Start the best XI for every game and rotate key players as much as possible after 60 minutes. Utilyze BFS and Fellaini more later in games, to keep Pogba and Herrera fresh for the next fixture.
(Slightly off-topic) As if the main purpose of playing those games was to finish them off with 11 not so tired players, no matter the result, and it isn't, is it? The purpose is to win them, except perhaps the Rostov away game. And to do that you will probably need Pogba and Herrera on the field till the final minutes, much more than Schweinsteiger or Fellaini, although the last one could push sometime due to his height and physicality. The common sense of both presupposes the coming games to be nothing more than a stroll in the park.Too much common sense @Raoul
Bailly hasn't been the same after coming from the AFCON. Besides getting expelled in the last game without any need whatsoever, he started the Saint-Etienne home game completely out of focus, giving away several balls at the back in the first minutes. I love the player and think he's our best center-back, but he has to put his act together. I suspect that Jones, if (big if, I know) he's recovered, might get a chance here.Maybe, but if he drops players every time they make a mistake he'll end up with a team that doesn't trust themselves and doesn't feel they're backed by the manager. If it was becoming a trend, or was a performance issue i can understand that, but not at one bad game, that we didn't lose.
(Slightly off-topic) As if the main purpose of playing those games was to finish them off with 11 not so tired players, no matter the result, and it isn't, is it? The purpose is to win them, except perhaps the Rostov away game. And to do that you will probably need Pogba and Herrera on the field till the final minutes, much more than Schweinsteiger or Fellaini, although the last one could push sometime due to his height and physicality. The common sense of both presupposes the coming games to be nothing more than a stroll in the park.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but when he returned he had good performances against Leicester and Watford...Bailly hasn't been the same after coming from the AFCON. Besides getting expelled in the last game without any need whatsoever, he started the Saint-Etienne home game completely out of focus, giving away several balls at the back in the first minutes. I love the player and think he's our best center-back, but he has to put his act together. I suspect that Jones, if (big if, I know) he's recovered, might get a chance here.
He did, no doubt. But we have a fierce competition in center-backs, no one is a starter for sure this season. And it's a final…Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but when he returned he had good performances against Leicester and Watford...
You don't think we should play 4-3-3 or you think Schweinsteiger (or Fellaini) would do a better job?I still don't think we should start Carrick.
Why do so many think that Carrick will start? The last couple of matches have been with Herrera and Pogba and not a 3 midfield. Why would Mourinho change this now? Are Southampton expected to have a lot of possession in the midfield? I don't watch a lot of Southampton matches.
Now that Bailly is suspended in the EL wouldn't it be likely that Mourinho could bench him just to have a "fresher" partnership for the EL, Smalling-Rojo? Or is he going to use his best CB?
Now that Mkhitaryan is unfortunately going to miss the final I'm wondering if Young could get a chance? He's actually been quite good these last two matches against Blackburn and St. Etienne. So if one would go by form then he should get a chance. So the right side could be shared with Valencia, which one of them would be the RB and RW I don't know.
So wouldn't this lineup be good?
Rashford has been really good as a sub and with this being final it would probably be good to use him as such. Rooney and Fellaini could also be good for this. Carrick or Schweinsteiger should only be used to "close" the match. Lingard will probably be used as a sub as well, but that no matter the score I think.
DDG
Valencia/Young Smalling Bailly/Rojo Blind
Herrera Pogba
Valencia/Young Mata Martial
Ibra
Southampton are good at keeping the ball. They play with atleast 3 central mids and sometimes even a diamond. Romeu and Ward-Prowse are in good nick as well.Why do so many think that Carrick will start? The last couple of matches have been with Herrera and Pogba and not a 3 midfield. Why would Mourinho change this now? Are Southampton expected to have a lot of possession in the midfield? I don't watch a lot of Southampton matches.
Now that Bailly is suspended in the EL wouldn't it be likely that Mourinho could bench him just to have a "fresher" partnership for the EL, Smalling-Rojo? Or is he going to use his best CB?
Now that Mkhitaryan is unfortunately going to miss the final I'm wondering if Young could get a chance? He's actually been quite good these last two matches against Blackburn and St. Etienne. So if one would go by form then he should get a chance. So the right side could be shared with Valencia, which one of them would be the RB and RW I don't know.
So wouldn't this lineup be good?
Rashford has been really good as a sub and with this being final it would probably be good to use him as such. Rooney and Fellaini could also be good for this. Carrick or Schweinsteiger should only be used to "close" the match. Lingard will probably be used as a sub as well, but that no matter the score I think.
DDG
Valencia/Young Smalling Bailly/Rojo Blind
Herrera Pogba
Valencia/Young Mata Martial
Ibra
Thanks for the info about Southampton. Let's hope that Carrick will be 100 % fit then. Can't wait for the final to start.Southampton are good at keeping the ball. They play with atleast 3 central mids and sometimes even a diamond. Romeu and Ward-Prowse are in good nick as well.
So yes, we might need an extra body in central midfield. I'd go for Carrick over Fellaini.
Bailly should start imo. This is a cup final, which means the best available CB partnership should play. Let's keep the FA Cup for trying things out.
Young did well last match, but last match was almost a dead rubber when it started. In any case, he hasn't played enough this season to suddenly feature in a cup final.
My guess would be 4-3-3 with Mata replacing Micky. Subs Rash/Fellaini/Rooney/Lingard depending on situation.
Andre Marriner