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    RobinLFC said:
    Depends on who's fit for us, I'd say. If Milner, Matip, Henderson and Coutinho are all unavailable, we'll lose but if the majority of them are back (I'm expecting everyone back except for Matip) it'll be an interesting game. As they say, form goes out of the window in fixtures like this but United have the advantage for me, with you guys being in great form lately and playing at home. It's also our first game without Mane and I don't really have an idea how much that will impact our style of play, but we'll definitely miss his pace and attacking threat.

    I'd definitely take a point from that perspective, although we haven't lost a game against the current top six under Klopp this season. Can't see us winning tbh, so going for a 1-1 or 2-2.
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    A Liverpool fan I know told me he thinks Matip isn't injured, Liverpool are just avoiding any potential AFCON trouble and that he'll play against United. Is that true?
     
    IRELANDUNITED said:
    I'm not sure yet mate, 4 of us are going over with an Irish travel company called Whartons Travel. They provide us with the tickets, they'll give them to us on the day of the match.
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    Sounds fancy. In that case you won't be up in the nosebleeds with me. Enjoy!
     
    VP89 said:
    @RobinLFC @Klopper76 @Cassady @Rafateria @Speedy30 @B20 And Liverpool fans I've missed:

    What are your thoughts for Sunday? Score predictions?
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    This is probably going to be our hardest game of the season. United with Mourinho, unbeaten in 15 and on a 9 game winning run. Doesn't get much harder than a trip to Old Trafford right now.

    Considering we've got players coming back from injury and Mane is missing, I think a draw is the best we can manage. You're clear favourites and in a very good place right now so a loss wouldn't surprise me.

    I can take a defeat as long as we recover straight away in the next league game. Obviously I'd prefer another win against one of the top six.

    I'm never confident at Old Trafford though so I'm expecting the worst.
     
    JB08 said:
    A Liverpool fan I know told me he thinks Matip isn't injured, Liverpool are just avoiding any potential AFCON trouble and that he'll play against United. Is that true?
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    Didn't he openly decline going to the AFCON
     
    JJ12 said:
    Didn't he openly decline going to the AFCON
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    Last I heard Cameroon were trying to get him in trouble for it, so (allegedly) Liverpool are pretending he's injured to prevent any charges.

    No idea if it's true. I think it's stupid if so, if he doesn't want to go it's his decision and he shouldn't get in trouble.
     
    JB08 said:
    A Liverpool fan I know told me he thinks Matip isn't injured, Liverpool are just avoiding any potential AFCON trouble and that he'll play against United. Is that true?
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    No that's not true, he wasn't included in the selection by Broos so formally he "wasn't called upon" which meant he can play for Liverpool anytime. He really was/is injured.
     
    Predictions for Sunday:
    1. They will be a massive handful for sustained periods.
    2. Red cardS
    3. First signs of deterioration in the Mou-Klopp relationship.
     
    JB08 said:
    Last I heard Cameroon were trying to get him in trouble for it, so (allegedly) Liverpool are pretending he's injured to prevent any charges.

    No idea if it's true. I think it's stupid if so, if he doesn't want to go it's his decision and he shouldn't get in trouble.
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    Its actually against FIFA regulations. He can of course retire from international football though but hes registered for this season I think.
    If you refuse a callup then you can be banned from playing for your club for the call up period.
     
    Cassidy said:
    Its actually against FIFA regulations. He can of course retire from international football though but hes registered for this season I think.
    If you refuse a callup then you can be banned from playing for your club for the call up period.
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    Is he? He hasn't played for Cameroon since June 2015 and since then has always indicated that he didn't want to play for them anymore. Would be weird/not his fault if they still registered him after that, imo.

    Anyway, there won't be any sanctions if he does play, he really is injured.
     
    RobinLFC said:
    Is he? He hasn't played for Cameroon since June 2015 and since then has always indicated that he didn't want to play for them anymore. Would be weird/not his fault if they still registered him after that, imo.

    Anyway, there won't be any sanctions if he does play, he really is injured.
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    Yes, thats why he can be called up. He has not retired.

    EDIT:

    “The general situation is that any player is free to decide that he is not playing for his national team,” said Andreas Herren, a spokesman for world football’s governing body.
    “There is no FIFA rule to prevent any player stopping his international career, that’s up to him,” he told AFP.
    “The one thing that has to be considered is that the intention to leave a national team or put an end to an international career needs to be communicated prior to a specific summons.”

    This was from FIFA when there was a row between Chelsea and France over Makalele in 2006
     
    Cassidy said:
    Yes, thats why he can be called up. He has not retired.

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    “The general situation is that any player is free to decide that he is not playing for his national team,” said Andreas Herren, a spokesman for world football’s governing body.
    “There is no FIFA rule to prevent any player stopping his international career, that’s up to him,” he told AFP.
    “The one thing that has to be considered is that the intention to leave a national team or put an end to an international career needs to be communicated prior to a specific summons.”

    This was from FIFA when there was a row between Chelsea and France over Makalele in 2006
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    Weird that he hasn't done those things then, maybe he still intends to make a comeback once Cameroon has sorted its shit out.
     
    RobinLFC said:
    Depends on who's fit for us, I'd say. If Milner, Matip, Henderson and Coutinho are all unavailable, we'll lose but if the majority of them are back (I'm expecting everyone back except for Matip) it'll be an interesting game. As they say, form goes out of the window in fixtures like this but United have the advantage for me, with you guys being in great form lately and playing at home. It's also our first game without Mane and I don't really have an idea how much that will impact our style of play, but we'll definitely miss his pace and attacking threat.

    I'd definitely take a point from that perspective, although we haven't lost a game against the current top six under Klopp this season. Can't see us winning tbh, so going for a 1-1 or 2-2.
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    Klopper76 said:
    This is probably going to be our hardest game of the season. United with Mourinho, unbeaten in 15 and on a 9 game winning run. Doesn't get much harder than a trip to Old Trafford right now.

    Considering we've got players coming back from injury and Mane is missing, I think a draw is the best we can manage. You're clear favourites and in a very good place right now so a loss wouldn't surprise me.

    I can take a defeat as long as we recover straight away in the next league game. Obviously I'd prefer another win against one of the top six.

    I'm never confident at Old Trafford though so I'm expecting the worst.
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    B20 said:
    0-0
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    Cheers guys - Draws all round then.

    It would be shame if we didn't leave with a win IMO, particularly after we threw away Arsenal and Everton in the last minutes.
     
    Just need a win, any which way will do. I think we'll struggle without Mane and given it doesnt look like we're going to go in to the market for someone who can replicate his attributes we'll have to make do without him and find a way to win without him. Praying Matip is back. Lovren and Klavan are way too inconsistent.
     
    I think it's amazing that so much was made in the media about Jose's parking the bus tactics at Anfield. Its not like Liverpool were gung-ho themselves, Klopp was EXTREMELY conservative by his standards. We were just moreso.

    Anyway, form goes out the window in this game. I love and hate this fixture in equal measure as I cannot stand to lose to this lot.

    I'm going for...

    DDG
    Valencia, Jones, Rojo, Blind
    Carrick, Herrera, Pogba
    Mkhitaryan, Martial
    Zlatan

    SUBS - Mata (Mkhitaryan), Rashford (Martial), Fellaini (Herrera)

    And the prediction.....

    Seriously, I am expecting a draw and would accept one in the grand scheme of things and considering the run of games we have coming up.

    But, I'll be optimistic and say:

    Man United 2 -1 Liverpool
    Zlatan, Mata Lallana
     
    Big big game. I am already nervous.

    I can see Mourinho starting with Lingard, prompting a caf meltdown before the game. Will go for the following team:

    ----------------De Gea-----------------
    Valencia---Smalling---Jones---Blind
    ----------------Carrick-----------------
    ----------Herrera-----Pogba-----------
    -Mikhitaryan------------------Lingard-
    ------------------Ibra------------------
     
    I'm counting on and hoping for a Lovren brainfart. Some stupid pen or a red would be nice. Come on Dejan, you can do it.
     
    Alabaster Codify7 said:
    I think it's amazing that so much was made in the media about Jose's parking the bus tactics at Anfield. Its not like Liverpool were gung-ho themselves, Klopp was EXTREMELY conservative by his standards. We were just moreso.
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    No doubt.

    My hope is that mourinho will feel emboldened by your recent form, old Trafford and the united way and come out to play. Klopp would have a field day with that I think.

    My feeling is that Mourinho will stay smart and do what it takes to not concede, Klopp will feel the same way and we'll all go home bored.
     
    I think he'll go for Lingard. Micky will probably get the nod also so Mata and Martial will miss out. The little boy inside of me is screaming for Martial on the left but I think he'll go conservative.

    Their fullbacks feature quite heavily in their attacking game. I think the best counteract would be to pick wingers that commit them, make them worry about going forward and leaving space behind.

    Martial-Ibra-Mkhi for me all day but I just don't think he'll do it.
     
    For us, we're going into it in good shape. Since the start of December we've only conceded 4 goals and we've scored 21. Pretty much all our first team is available, assuming Zlatan recovers, and they're all in good form. Plus lots of our bench players are in good form too, so we have plenty of options if we need to change things.

    Liverpool are in good form, but not quite so good shape as us. The Plymouth game was such a changed team as to be a bit meaningless in terms of form, but it did highlight how much thinner their squad is than ours. And before that the game against Sunderland may have been down to tiredness, but it highlighted how Liverpool lack leaders and organisers at the back. Coutinho sounds like he'll be back, but (from our point of view) hopefully he'll be a bit rusty. And they're missing Mane, which is a huge loss them them. I wouldn't quite say he's their best player, but he gives them pace they dont get from Firmino, Coutiinho or Lallana, while being just a much better player than Origi. That hinders them on the counter attack.

    Tactically, I have a lot of faith that Mourinho will be able to deal with the Liverpool press. Mourinho is rarely found wanting where tactics are concerned. It'll be interesting to see if he concedes territory, or just plays the ball over the press to Zlatan.

    Ultimately, with United also being at home, I'd say the game is tilted slightly in our favour. I fancy Liverpool to score, but not to keep us out, so 2-1 to United feels plausible.
     
    A shame the League Cup is a two-legged affair 'cause I can see a draw at St. Mary's tonight meaning they could have gone to extra time. That said, we've an extra days rest, we played at home against a lesser side. Feeling worryingly confident. :nervous:
     
    Would be lovely if Rooney gets the record by scoring the winner against Liverpool.
    Imagine the celebrations! :D
     
    Grylte said:
    Would be lovely if Rooney gets the record by scoring the winner against Liverpool.
    Imagine the celebrations! :D
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    If only he scores the 4th goal in the 89th minute after coming on as a substitute when we are 3-0 up.
     
    B20 said:
    No doubt.

    My hope is that mourinho will feel emboldened by your recent form, old Trafford and the united way and come out to play. Klopp would have a field day with that I think.

    My feeling is that Mourinho will stay smart and do what it takes to not concede, Klopp will feel the same way and we'll all go home bored.
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    Yeah you could well be right.
     
    Red Katie said:
    If you're nervous now you have a struggle on your hands come Sunday.
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    I'm usually a bag of nerves before any United Liverpool game, but this has the most at stake of any of our games for years so god knows what i'll be like at kick off.
     
    2 Man Midfield said:
    I'm usually a bag of nerves before any United Liverpool game, but this has the most at stake of any of our games for years so god knows what i'll be like at kick off.
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    Do you feel calmer if I say we simply have to win and losing points is not an option?
     
    We're the better team and I'm very confident that we'll get the three points.

    The team gives itself if everyone is fit.
     
    2 Man Midfield said:
    I'm usually a bag of nerves before any United Liverpool game, but this has the most at stake of any of our games for years so god knows what i'll be like at kick off.
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    Nah the game at Anfield in 14/15 had more at stake. It was later in the season and we were separated by a couple of points.
     
    Klopper76 said:
    Nah the game at Anfield in 14/15 had more at stake. It was later in the season and we were separated by a couple of points.
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    I know what you mean, but I think this is really the acid test to see if we have actually turned a corner. Just about the biggest test we could ask for the way you lot attack teams.
     
    Klopper76 said:
    Nah the game at Anfield in 14/15 had more at stake. It was later in the season and we were separated by a couple of points.
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    Maybe for you, but for us this game is huge. It either puts us back in the title rice (arguably) and confirms our credentials for top 4, or puts us back several steps in terms of both points and confidence. The gap we'd spent weeks closing would again become significant.
     
    2 Man Midfield said:
    Maybe for you, but for us this game is huge. It either puts us back in the title rice (arguably) and confirms our credentials for top 4, or puts us back several steps in terms of both points and confidence. The gap we'd spent weeks closing would again become significant.
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    :drool:
     
    SirAF said:
    We're the better team and I'm very confident that we'll get the three points.

    The team gives itself if everyone is fit.
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    I think left back spot is still questionable personally.
     
    Havak said:
    This is our biggest game of the season by far. It really is make or break as we would have some quite favourable fixtures right up until March (as we have to expect to make the League Cup Final, meaning City away would be pushed back). We play Stoke away (PL) [their home form isn't quite what it used to be with W4D4L3], Hull away (LC), Wigan home (FAC), Hull home (PL), Leicester away (PL), Watford home (PL), followed by the Saint-Etienne fixtures and probable League Cup Final (albeit most likely against Liverpool as well) throughout January and February.

    Liverpool

    I'll be trying to look at this from a Liverpool fan perspective, so any 'pool posters on here feel free to voice at me if you don't agree. I think Liverpool can be pretty happy with a draw here, even if it gives their title hopes a bit of a set-back. It'll be extremely difficult for them to win the title if Chelsea have already won before this game happens and may change their mind-set. However, given that they're probably going to be missing quite a few more players than us (or at least some who still won't be 100%), the fact we're at home, have 24 hours extra rest/prep time and are in excellent form, a draw can't be seen as a bad result.

    Us

    Got to win if we want to be in the equation, though it's more likely to be a "who finishes 2nd behind Chelsea" kind of thing unless the big teams can all do what Spurs did to some extent. A draw doesn't do us too many favours, but given our run of fixtures we could probably expect to sneak into fourth by mid-February. We've got practically everything going for us, so we need to capitalize on it now. Failure to win here will honestly feel like this amazing run of results was a waste.

    Line-up

    I believe Jose has basically known the team to play this game for a couple of weeks now and it has to be this:

    de Gea
    Valencia Jones Rojo Blind
    Herrera Carrick Pogba
    Mkhitaryan Ibrahimovic Martial​

    Looking over the past two fixtures, anyone who played the majority of both games doesn't start on Sunday IMO, with the exception of Jones or Smalling due to the complication with Rojo's fitness. de Gea, Valencia, Carrick, Herrera, Pogba, Mkhitaryan and Ibrahimovic are first-choice so play if fit. Jones & Rojo is a partnership we shouldn't need to split just yet even though I'm a big advocate of Smalling (so obviously have no qualms if he has to play). Blind missed yesterday so has to be the favorite to play Left Back. Martial didn't start last night, so will play on the left side of the attack.

    Subs bench will include Romero, Smalling, Fellaini, Mata, Rooney, and Rashford with one of Darmian/Young/Fosu-Mensah/Lingard taking the final spot in the squad.

    Going for a 2-1 United win, but I think we'll make hard work of it.
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    All very feasible good post.

    Yep, I'm worried about the sheer number of injuries / those returning from injury but we'll get a good idea from tonights team vs Saints. Most of those injured should be expecting to be starting or more likely on the bench (he can't bring all 4 on though so either one will start here or maybe go straight into the United match without 20 mins at Saints. It should be a match of Attack vs Defence, both attacks look good and are in good form, both defences look like they could be got at.
     
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