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Manchester United 1:1 Liverpool

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Sun, 15 January 2017 @ 4:00pm GMT
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    Guess the only question marks are who starts either side of Zlatan. Two spots for Martial, Micky, Mata and Lingard to fight over. I'd personally prefer Martial and Mata.
    Even LB is not a certainty. Both Blind and Darmian have been average at best. With Mane being out, I guess Blind is more likely to start but won't be surprised if Darmian does.
     
    @Lucky McLuckerson
    I am worried for this one my friend.The only one i am worried about. Our record is at stake. Should i perform the dance to please football gods or have you got it covered?

    I am worried about playing carrick in this game, would have no problem in him playing against chelsea or city but in this game every liverpool player will be standing on his toes to get to him and i think he may just be bullied out of the game, leaving us with practically 10 vs 11.
    Unless most of pool players who are injured play today i dont think klopp will risk all of them for the full game. It would be stupid to play 4 players returning from injury in the same game on their return.
    We will need to stop Lallana, i am not worried about anyone else. Lallanais in peak condition and good form, he may hurt us.
    No predictions, just win, somehow someway just win, may be the goal goes of standing leg of karius after hitting the post 5 times. Just win, not how, not by how many. Just have to win.
     
    I would play same team as yesterday but bring in Zlatan, Carrick and Blind for Rashford, Rooney and Darmian.

    I would not be surprised with a draw but I'm going to be positive and say we will nick it 2-1. Really glad Mane is unavailable so that's a big bonus and hopefully Coutinho is a bit rusty after his injury.
     
    I'd expect it to be:

    Mignolet; Clyne, Matip, Lovren, Milner; Henderson, Wijnaldum, Can; Lallana, Coutinho, Firmino.

    This is based on the assumption that we pick up no fresh injuries between now and Sunday, and that our injured players (Henderson, Matip, Milner and Coutinho) are all ready to go.

    From Klopp's comments, don't think Coutinho will be fit enough to start.
     
    @Lucky McLuckerson
    I am worried for this one my friend.The only one i am worried about. Our record is at stake. Should i perform the dance to please football gods or have you got it covered?

    I am worried about playing carrick in this game, would have no problem in him playing against chelsea or city but in this game every liverpool player will be standing on his toes to get to him and i think he may just be bullied out of the game, leaving us with practically 10 vs 11.
    Unless most of pool players who are injured play today i dont think klopp will risk all of them for the full game. It would be stupid to play 4 players returning from injury in the same game on their return.
    We will need to stop Lallana, i am not worried about anyone else. Lallanais in peak condition and good form, he may hurt us.
    No predictions, just win, somehow someway just win, may be the goal goes of standing leg of karius after hitting the post 5 times. Just win, not how, not by how many. Just have to win.

    Mignolet will be in goal for us. He's still not great but has shown more this season than Karius and is keeping his place on merit
     
    Mignolet will be in goal for us. He's still not great but has shown more this season than Karius and is keeping his place on merit
    He will be sent off for bringing down mkhitarayan and the resulting penalty will hit the post 5 times and go in after hitting karius's leg. OK?
     
    I always hope we thrash these disgusting cnuts, even if it doesn't happen often. 6-0, nah scratch that 8-0.
     
    This game comes at the right time for you, and the wrong time for us.

    Any win will do, need to stop the United love in happening at the moment.
     
    This will be difficult. Liverpool are playing some very good football.

    I think Ander Herrera and our 2 full backs will be the most important players for this fixture. We need to nullify them but higher up the pitch compared to last time.
     
    Mata has to start this one. He's in great form, has hit a goal or assist in his last 4 games, and he loves a goal in a big game.

    Martial can come on for him after 65/70 minutes and have a run at tired legs.
     
    It's only Wednesday and I'm already incredibly nervous about Sunday's game. Can't wait.
     
    From Klopp's comments, don't think Coutinho will be fit enough to start.
    He's had four full training sessions with the squad after yesterday, and Klopp hinted that he might be in the squad today. I don't think there's much doubt that he'll start on Sunday. Wouldn't be the first time the opposite manager keeps you in the dark about his best player's fitness.
     
    Win and I'll be a happy camper.
    Lose and it will ruin my whole goddamn week.
     
    He's had four full training sessions with the squad after yesterday, and Klopp hinted that he might be in the squad today. I don't think there's much doubt that he'll start on Sunday. Wouldn't be the first time the opposite manager keeps you in the dark about his best player's fitness.

    He might do, if he starts I don't see him playing more than 60-70 minutes going on these comments:

    The Liverpool manager said: “The time is not long enough for him to be 100% for Manchester United but he could play. We have spoken before about there being a difference between being fit and being match-fit but of course it’s Phil, so we want to try everything we can to bring him as close as possible to his 100%.

    “In this moment I would say it makes sense for him to be involved against Southampton, in the squad, and we will see what happens there – whether we have to use him or not or whatever. If not, we have another three days to prepare him for United. A few minutes for him does make sense. We will see if he’s ready tomorrow and on Wednesday morning. Then we will make the decision.”
     
    Mata has to start this one. He's in great form, has hit a goal or assist in his last 4 games, and he loves a goal in a big game.

    Martial can come on for him after 65/70 minutes and have a run at tired legs.

    They play on opposite sides anyway. Mata on the right, Martial on the left.
     
    Mata should start but so should Mickhi. What to do? Of course Martial should start too imo.
     
    He might do, if he starts I don't see him playing more than 60-70 minutes going on these comments:
    When did he say that? In the presser for tonight's game, he kind of implied that Coutinho could play today if necessary, but I don't think he'll feauture more than half an hour. I think they'll do everything to get him to play on Sunday, even if it's just at 90% or so. The alternative is Can in midfield and Lallana, Origi and Firmino up front :nervous:
     
    This is our biggest game of the season by far. It really is make or break as we would have some quite favourable fixtures right up until March (as we have to expect to make the League Cup Final, meaning City away would be pushed back). We play Stoke away (PL) [their home form isn't quite what it used to be with W4D4L3], Hull away (LC), Wigan home (FAC), Hull home (PL), Leicester away (PL), Watford home (PL), followed by the Saint-Etienne fixtures and probable League Cup Final (albeit most likely against Liverpool as well) throughout January and February.

    Liverpool

    I'll be trying to look at this from a Liverpool fan perspective, so any 'pool posters on here feel free to voice at me if you don't agree. I think Liverpool can be pretty happy with a draw here, even if it gives their title hopes a bit of a set-back. It'll be extremely difficult for them to win the title if Chelsea have already won before this game happens and may change their mind-set. However, given that they're probably going to be missing quite a few more players than us (or at least some who still won't be 100%), the fact we're at home, have 24 hours extra rest/prep time and are in excellent form, a draw can't be seen as a bad result.

    Us

    Got to win if we want to be in the equation, though it's more likely to be a "who finishes 2nd behind Chelsea" kind of thing unless the big teams can all do what Spurs did to some extent. A draw doesn't do us too many favours, but given our run of fixtures we could probably expect to sneak into fourth by mid-February. We've got practically everything going for us, so we need to capitalize on it now. Failure to win here will honestly feel like this amazing run of results was a waste.

    Line-up

    I believe Jose has basically known the team to play this game for a couple of weeks now and it has to be this:

    de Gea
    Valencia Jones Rojo Blind
    Herrera Carrick Pogba
    Mkhitaryan Ibrahimovic Martial​

    Looking over the past two fixtures, anyone who played the majority of both games doesn't start on Sunday IMO, with the exception of Jones or Smalling due to the complication with Rojo's fitness. de Gea, Valencia, Carrick, Herrera, Pogba, Mkhitaryan and Ibrahimovic are first-choice so play if fit. Jones & Rojo is a partnership we shouldn't need to split just yet even though I'm a big advocate of Smalling (so obviously have no qualms if he has to play). Blind missed yesterday so has to be the favorite to play Left Back. Martial didn't start last night, so will play on the left side of the attack.

    Subs bench will include Romero, Smalling, Fellaini, Mata, Rooney, and Rashford with one of Darmian/Young/Fosu-Mensah/Lingard taking the final spot in the squad.

    Going for a 2-1 United win, but I think we'll make hard work of it.
     
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    Where you sitting? I realise there's about a 1 in 78,000 chance you'll be next to me, but you never know.

    I'm not sure yet mate, 4 of us are going over with an Irish travel company called Whartons Travel. They provide us with the tickets, they'll give them to us on the day of the match.
     
    When did he say that? In the presser for tonight's game, he kind of implied that Coutinho could play today if necessary, but I don't think he'll feauture more than half an hour. I think they'll do everything to get him to play on Sunday, even if it's just at 90% or so. The alternative is Can in midfield and Lallana, Origi and Firmino up front :nervous:

    That was yesterday, got it from a Guardian article. I'll try find it for you.
     
    ------------De Gea------------
    Tony-Smalling-Jones-Darmian
    ------------Carrick------------
    -----Herrera-----Pogba--------
    Mkhitaryan-------------Martial
    ----------Ibrahimovic----------

    I can see us starting Lingard over Martial but I hope I'm wrong.
     
    We really should win this, it's coming at a great time for us and we can really deflate the Liverpool balloon. Likewise, if they beat us. I'm going 2-0
     
    I'll be at the game. A dream of mine for about 20 years finally coming true :devil:

    That said, I think we'll beat them 2-1 in a real nail biter.
     
    I've heard talk that all premier league fixtures could be under threat due to weather. Not pitch-wise but regards the safety of travelling fans. Anyone else heard this? I think I actually might cry if I don't get to go to this game
     
    @RobinLFC @Klopper76 @Cassady @Rafateria @Speedy30 @B20 And Liverpool fans I've missed:

    What are your thoughts for Sunday? Score predictions?
    Depends on who's fit for us, I'd say. If Milner, Matip, Henderson and Coutinho are all unavailable, we'll lose but if the majority of them are back (I'm expecting everyone back except for Matip) it'll be an interesting game. As they say, form goes out of the window in fixtures like this but United have the advantage for me, with you guys being in great form lately and playing at home. It's also our first game without Mane and I don't really have an idea how much that will impact our style of play, but we'll definitely miss his pace and attacking threat.

    I'd definitely take a point from that perspective, although we haven't lost a game against the current top six under Klopp this season. Can't see us winning tbh, so going for a 1-1 or 2-2.
     
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  • 27% Man Utd 2:1 Liverpool
  • 20% Man Utd 2:0 Liverpool
  • 11% Man Utd 3:1 Liverpool
  • 9% Man Utd 1:0 Liverpool
  • 9% Man Utd 1:1 Liverpool
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  • 1% Man Utd 0:0 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 0:2 Liverpool
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  • 1% Man Utd 4:2 Liverpool
  • 1% Man Utd 1:3 Liverpool
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  • 0% Man Utd 5:1 Liverpool
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  1. Man Utd
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Possession
56% 44%
Shots
9 13
Shots on Target
3 4
Corners
5 7
Fouls
17 13

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Michael Oliver