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Liverpool 0:0 Manchester United

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    Not that it should have any bearing, but Liverpool will be unveiling the Kenny Dalglish stand before kick-off. Complete with mosaic.
     
    Last season, before the game against Liverpool, everyone was gung ho about how United are on a roll and will win. Instead we saw a United team playing defensively.

    Hopefully this time i hope Jose is happy with the attacking players he has and goes after Liverpool's defence. It will suck if United again plan to sit back and hope to hit on the counter because Liverpool have got good players who can hurt us.
    You talking about the game at Anfield? Liverpool was in great form going into that game iirc.

    What will suck more than going defensive though is to lose.
     
    You talking about the game at Anfield? Liverpool was in great form going into that game iirc.

    What will suck more than going defensive though is to lose.

    True, but if i remember correctly, United were also in decent form going in to the game with Zlatan and Pogba giving interviews to Henry before the game. Could be wrong.

    For once i want a United team to go in to a Liverpool game to take on their defenders because they are capable of mistakes. Don't want to sit back and hope for a counter. But as you pointed out,you are right. Looking at the big picture, it will suck to lose against Liverpool as a win for them might kick start their title chase. Being defensive and coming back with a win or a draw is better. Fingers crossed we win handsomely.
     
    True, but if i remember correctly, United were also in decent form going in to the game with Zlatan and Pogba giving interviews to Henry before the game. Could be wrong.

    For once i want a United team to go in to a Liverpool game to take on their defenders because they are capable of mistakes. Don't want to sit back and hope for a counter. But as you pointed out,you are right. Looking at the big picture, it will suck to lose against Liverpool as a win for them might kick start their title chase. Being defensive and coming back with a win or a draw is better. Fingers crossed we win handsomely.
    A nice 4-0 will do.
     
    True, but if i remember correctly, United were also in decent form going in to the game with Zlatan and Pogba giving interviews to Henry before the game. Could be wrong.

    For once i want a United team to go in to a Liverpool game to take on their defenders because they are capable of mistakes. Don't want to sit back and hope for a counter. But as you pointed out,you are right. Looking at the big picture, it will suck to lose against Liverpool as a win for them might kick start their title chase. Being defensive and coming back with a win or a draw is better. Fingers crossed we win handsomely.

    Pretty sure we were struggling. In the middle of that run of like 2 wins in 9 league games or something.

    We'll try and do what we always do at Anfield, sit back and absorb the pressure especially in the opening 20 minutes when they'll fly out the blocks. Then, if it's still 0-0 we'll start to hit them on the counter attack. They tend to tire in the 2nd half so hopefully thats when we will take over.

    It's a tactic that has been pretty successful in the last few years to be fair.
     
    I'd snap your hand off for a 1-0 dodgey victory. Mane and Cuntinho are back and with all the negative press Liverpool are going to be eager to make a statement. Not to add the game raising cnuts fecking hate us.
     
    God, imagine how satisfying it'd be to beat them in front of the new KKK stand, Fellaini preferably scoring the winner and pointing at his name in front of it.
     
    Liverpool will always raise their game against United, but looking at their roster - there are not many motivators or tough players in it! Who is their baddest player? Dejan Lovren and Jordan Henderson? Coincidentally amongst their worst players, prone to doing errors every game. They have no Steven Gerrard, no Javier Mascherano, no Daniel Agger, no Martin Skrtel and no Lucas. They pretty much are a bunch of skinny, technical players mixed with the ones above. United have Bailly, Matic, Fellaini, Lukaku and Herrera at the top of my head - you just don't want to go into a tackle with one of those when aggression is high.
     
    Liverpool will always raise their game against United, but looking at their roster - there are not many motivators or tough players in it! Who is their baddest player? Dejan Lovren and Jordan Henderson? Coincidentally amongst their worst players, prone to doing errors every game. They have no Steven Gerrard, no Javier Mascherano, no Daniel Agger, no Martin Skrtel and no Lucas. They pretty much are a bunch of skinny, technical players mixed with the ones above. United have Bailly, Matic, Fellaini, Lukaku and Herrera at the top of my head - you just don't want to go into a tackle with one of those when aggression is high.
    You don't need to be big and strong, you just need to press us quickly and scare us into losing the ball.

    Jose will combat this by playing the same tactics that we used against Ajax.
     
    --------------Lukaku


    --Martial--------Mkhi ------Rashford
    ---------Matic------Herrera-----

    Shaw----Bailly----Jones-------Valencia

    ----------------DDG------------

    Go for the kill. No holds barred.
     
    I will like us to play a similar formation to the one we played against chelsea at home last season. A 4-3-3 cum 3-5-2 with Darmian playing as an inside/defensive fullback to deal with Salah, Valencia as a defensive Wingback and Young as an extremely attacking wingback. Fellaini would play as the most advanced midfielder supporting Lukaku and Rashford and with Young playing as a winger when we attack, that will help us exploit liverpool's poor defence and use our height advantage.
    Degea; Valencia, Bailly, Jones, Darmian; Herrera, Matic, Fellaini, Young; Rashford, Lukaku.
     
    In the same fixture last year, I was furious that we were so defensive as their defence and GK were visibly nervous and there for the taking. I hope to god Jose doesn't set up TOO defensively this time, I'd be fuming. We don't need to be gung-ho, but that back line would break under pressure and we need to force mistakes out them.
     
    In the same fixture last year, I was furious that we were so defensive as their defence and GK were visibly nervous and there for the taking. I hope to god Jose doesn't set up TOO defensively this time, I'd be fuming. We don't need to be gung-ho, but that back line would break under pressure and we need to force mistakes out them.

    I thought this as well. We gave them too much respect last time round. We can play counter attacking football without trying to park the bus and have the likes of Rashford as a LB with Young as ultra LB
     
    --------------Lukaku


    --Martial--------Mkhi ------Rashford
    ---------Matic------Herrera-----

    Shaw----Bailly----Jones-------Valencia

    ----------------DDG------------

    Go for the kill. No holds barred.

    Surely Big Felli plays. No chance Shaw starts either.
     
    I’ll put money on it that Liverpool will settle straight away. Recently, In big games like this, they fly out of the blocks and I don’t doubt they’ll do the same this time.

    The thing is I actually reckon we started the better team in both fixtures last season. At Anfield especially, Liverpool were quite nervy and we were pressing them quite well. We couldn't make our early dominance count because our attack was still disjointed early on into Jose's tenure. Obviously he realised this and settled for a point. At OT we were actually even better creating a couple of great chances in the earliest moments, including the one Pogba scuffed. It was the penalty that turned the game in their favour and that's when they took control. So although it didn't last long we did actually come out of the blocks quicker ourselves.

    Of course whether that happens this season remains to be seen. Liverpool of course are going into the fixture on the back of a relatively disappointing run, whilst we are doing very well. I've no doubt they will look to do what you say in this match, and as mentioned above City is a perfect example of that. Hopefully in such a case our backline doesn't lose concentration and we can grow into the game as we rebuff their approaches.
     
    Reading this thread makes you realize just how much English football fans overestimate the relevance of physicality and strength.
     
    Everybody saying I hope we don't go defensive but I think it is the right thing to do. We will set up deep and play on the counter like last year. This time we have the right players to do so. We will look to get it too the wings or push Fellaini more forward as I suspect it be a midfield of 3 and look for him and Rom for the knock downs to start are counter from higher up the pitch.

    Either way we have scored every game this season and if we keep them out we will win going for a 2-0 to us
     
    This game has Mourinho special written all over it. There's no way we'll 'go for it'.

    He'll be thinking "as long as we don't lose this game it's a good result" and to be honest, I have to agree with him. We're sitting pretty in the league, a draw is a respectable result considering the occasion. As long as we don't lose, we're still going strong.

    In saying all that, I obviously hope we get the win.
     
    This game has Mourinho special written all over it. There's no way we'll 'go for it'.

    He'll be thinking "as long as we don't lose this game it's a good result" and to be honest, I have to agree with him. We're sitting pretty in the league, a draw is a respectable result considering the occasion. As long as we don't lose, we're still going strong.

    In saying all that, I obviously hope we get the win.

    A win will shut everyone up saying we haven't beat a big team yet and give the team a massive boost though. Anfield away is always one of our most difficult games to navigate.
     
    I'm back in Ireland next weekend when this is on, and my parents have just told me that they cancelled their sky! :mad:
     
    True, but if i remember correctly, United were also in decent form going in to the game with Zlatan and Pogba giving interviews to Henry before the game. Could be wrong.

    For once i want a United team to go in to a Liverpool game to take on their defenders because they are capable of mistakes. Don't want to sit back and hope for a counter. But as you pointed out,you are right. Looking at the big picture, it will suck to lose against Liverpool as a win for them might kick start their title chase. Being defensive and coming back with a win or a draw is better. Fingers crossed we win handsomely.

    You're talking rubbish.

    Jose will set up the defence to contain Liverpools "awesome foursome" and then isolate their diabolical defence with our attackers so that they can be fully exploited it'll be like Chelsea v Arsenal when he played Schurle up top... Going to be 4-0 United, you heard it here first :devil:

    Also Liverpool were the team in form last time as people have already mentioned. This is a completely different set of circumstances.
     
    You're talking rubbish.

    Jose will set up the defence to contain Liverpools "awesome foursome" and then isolate their diabolical defence with our attackers so that they can be fully exploited it'll be like Chelsea v Arsenal when he played Schurle up top... Going to be 4-0 United, you heard it here first :devil:

    Also Liverpool were the team in form last time as people have already mentioned. This is a completely different set of circumstances.

    I did say "if i remember correctly" i hope you are right with the score line prediction.
     
    ------------ De Gea
    -------Smalling Bailly Jones
    Valencia ---------------- Young
    -----------Matic -- Fellaini
    Mkhitaryan --- Lukaku --- Rashford

    would be my guess, I reckon we'll draw 1-1
     
    You're talking rubbish.

    Jose will set up the defence to contain Liverpools "awesome foursome" and then isolate their diabolical defence with our attackers so that they can be fully exploited it'll be like Chelsea v Arsenal when he played Schurle up top... Going to be 4-0 United, you heard it here first :devil:

    Also Liverpool were the team in form last time as people have already mentioned. This is a completely different set of circumstances.
    Soooo defend deep, punt it forward for the big man and hope Rashford can cover the ground from Double LB position to get up and support him?
     
    Then watch klopp cry about it in every press conference for the rest of the season. Yup. ;)
    It'll hopefully work better than last year than with the other big man we deployed up top. At least Lukaku can run a defence, run to the corners and so on.
     

    Clever. Will inspire the scouse to be even more rabid than they usually are more our annual visit.

    Do they have any local born players anymore? Having homegrown players is important in these kind of games: good reason to start Rashford and Lingard for us.
     
    If Fellaini's out, our whole gameplan of bypassing the press is out the window. Lukaku is decent at holding the ball but won't be enough. We don't even have an extra midfielder for 433 or 352. I think we'll have to play 343 like we did against CSKA.

    De Gea
    Bailly Lindelof Jones
    Valencia Herrera Matic Young
    Mkhi Lukaku Martial​
     
    If Fellaini's out, our whole gameplan of bypassing the press is out the window. Lukaku is decent at holding the ball but won't be enough. We don't even have an extra midfielder for 433 or 352. I think we'll have to play 343 like we did against CSKA.

    De Gea
    Bailly Lindelof Jones
    Valencia Herrera Matic Young
    Mkhi Lukaku Martial​

    Please no Mkhi, he is absolutely dependant on space and time on the ball, something you get zilch of against Liverpool.

    They will gegendepress him out of the match.
     
    If Fellaini's out, our whole gameplan of bypassing the press is out the window. Lukaku is decent at holding the ball but won't be enough. We don't even have an extra midfielder for 433 or 352. I think we'll have to play 343 like we did against CSKA.

    De Gea
    Bailly Lindelof Jones
    Valencia Herrera Matic Young
    Mkhi Lukaku Martial​

    Lindelof isn't gonna play this. It'll be Smalling and everything will be the same as you said.
     
    Surely we're not going to play 3 at the back for one of the first times this season, versus a team who have severe pace on the wings? Didn't Arsenal's display show that could be disastrous?
     
    Surely we're not going to play 3 at the back for one of the first times this season, versus a team who have severe pace on the wings? Didn't Arsenal's display show that could be disastrous?

    I don't think we'll have any other choice sadly enough. Playing Carrick in this game will be as disastrous as this as he'll be the easiest target for their pressing. The only is to play 3-5-2, defend and hit them with counters.

    Let's hope Fellaini will be ok. I'm worried a lot about this game now.
     
    I am confident Fellaini will be available, he usually recovers pretty quick from minor knocks. In the event he's not available, I trust Jose to bring the double decker and grind out a draw atleast, which will not be too bad a result in the circumstances. Live to fight another day and all that.

    Still, I'd prefer we go for the 3 points as Liverpool are there for the taking at the moment. But we need our first choice XI for that.
     
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  • 22% Liverpool 1:2 Man Utd
  • 15% Liverpool 0:2 Man Utd
  • 14% Liverpool 1:1 Man Utd
  • 11% Liverpool 1:3 Man Utd
  • 7% Liverpool 0:1 Man Utd
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  • 1% Liverpool 3:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Liverpool 1:0 Man Utd
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Possession
62% 38%
Shots
19 6
Shots on Target
5 1
Corners
7 3
Fouls
7 13

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Martin Atkinson