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Everton 2:2 Manchester United

Goodison Park

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Sat, 22 February 2025 @ 12:30pm GMT
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  • Zico1982 said:
    Well...We are s... again.

    Onana: 3 The save before the goal goes straight into a dangerous area. Again
    Maguire 3: Ball watching at the first goal. Shipwreck of a performance.
    De Ligt: 5 Not good, but somewhat acceptable first 45 minutes.
    Mazraoui: 5 Acceptable, and at least showing some will.
    Dalot: 4 Underwhelming.
    Dorgu 7 The best United by a country mile. Links up well with Bruno and is present in dangerous areas. Defensive also good.
    Ugarte 6 Runs and fights.
    Casemiro: 5 Too slow.
    Bruno: 6 Tries a lot. Light and shades.
    Zirkzee 5: Anonymous. Does not get a lot to work with.
    Højlund 5: See Zirkzee
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    Bruno is not a 6. More like a 4. Has been terrible on set pieces. Not for the first time. His only redeeming factor is a few good passes with Dorgu. Expect so much more from a Captain and key player.
     
    Nogbadthebad said:
    We can't afford to sack him.
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    If we can, we should.

    If you have a limited group of players, you don't try to coach them into a new system. You consolidate and give them stability. He's had time to coach them, but it's going in the opposite direction to when he started.

    We cannot score goals and we don't look like scoring them. It's alarming how bad this is.
     
    Super Hans said:
    If there’s a silver lining here, maybe most of the “fans” in this thread will disappear and defect to supporting City ;)
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    I would love to hear which new manager they want. I’ve asked before but all of the ‘sack the manager’ fans didn’t seem to have any answers other than Thomas Frank. The very same people will just moan about the next manager anyway.
     
    Orton said:
    Maguire was probably at fault for both goals too. What the feck was he thinking with those clearances.
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    Yes he was. His header in the first goal was half hearted. Should really have cleared it easily. I don't know how he could just ball watch the 2nd goal.
     
    Dirty Schwein said:
    Why is Garnacho on the bench? Is there an issue with Amorim? Maybe he did a Zaha? Hopefully evra let's us know soon.
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    Think he wanted to bring Dorgu into the game more. He was ridiculously wasteful in the last game. If he comes in I’d bring him on in the right position. Keep him away from Dorgu and maybe offer some threat on that side.
     
    Woziak said:
    The players are not bad enough to lose 60% of PL games they have not lost that many not even in 1974, get a grip the coach is getting too many free passes!
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    On today's play and many others before they are that bad to lose 90% of games.

    Tell me how the manager stop the goals we conceded today?
     
    There’s absolutely no hope left for this team to recover this season. It’s been a sucker punch in the gut game after game. Really don’t know how bad it’s going to get from here because I don’t see things improving. At this rate I would prefer if Amorim played the u-21s. I know, dramatic but that’s what this team has done to us
     
    Zico1982 said:
    Well...We are s... again.

    Onana: 3 The save before the goal goes straight into a dangerous area. Again
    Maguire 3: Ball watching at the first goal. Shipwreck of a performance.
    De Ligt: 5 Not good, but somewhat acceptable first 45 minutes.
    Mazraoui: 5 Acceptable, and at least showing some will.
    Dalot: 4 Underwhelming.
    Dorgu 7 The best United player by a country mile. Links up well with Bruno and is present in dangerous areas. Defensive also good.
    Ugarte 6 Runs and fights.
    Casemiro: 5 Too slow.
    Bruno: 6 Tries a lot. Light and shades.
    Zirkzee 5: Anonymous. Does not get a lot to work with.
    Højlund 5: See Zirkzee
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    Mazraoui has given the ball away in dangerous positions about 4 times, always with the same aimless pump forward towards Zirkzee.
     
    Actually hard to believe we can be made to look like such a bunch of feckin useless gobshites game in game out, no matter who we play. Just simply do not have it in them to have the backbone or bollocks to play for a club like United.
     
    Hammondo said:
    I guess, but we don't score either way.
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    He also assisted two goals in games not that long ago. Is he in bad form? absolutely. But he's less bad than the other options we have in attack at the moment. It's like picking between what shit smells the least bad.
     
    Ceteris said:
    Pace, power, skill, effort, composure, desire

    From back to front we have neither of them in this team

    Everton aren't playing any genius system, they are stronger and giving more effort.

    They are getting another manager the sack. He will take his money and leave if sacked

    We will still be stuck with these melons
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    Exactly. They're weak and gutless
     
    I don't trust giving funds to Amorim. How??? Replace 9-10 players and hoping Amorim can do his magic. I don't it work this way. I am losing faith in Amorim, I don't think the players buy into what he wants to do. We need a coach that is not rigid in formation. A coach who knows how to use the strength of the player and not forcing a player into a role that they cannot excel. If we get relegated, I am not surprised. In previous season, the team fighting to stay has more fight than this United team. This team has zero fight so there are chances that we lose rest of the games for the season and get relegated. That happen, I hope Glazers cut lost and sell their stake. United needs to reboot.
     
    Magical Manchester United said:
    I'm convinced we're cursed. How else can you explain a club just lurching from embarrassment to embarrasment, on and off the pitch for over 11 years. How do you explain every player that comes to the club with good reputation suddenly losing their ability to play football. How managers that come to the club with good reputation suddenly turn into clueless buffoons. How players that fail at the club move elsewhere and suddenly are good again. How players seem to be struck by some kind of mind virus when they step onto the pitch . Then there's all the "training injuries"..what was it last week. 4? And 3 of them central midfielders?

    If this was a series of Dream Team it would probably be seen as unrealisitc.
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    Maybe the fluids the squad drink before every game are being spiked with Valium or something.
     
    rooney2009 said:
    This is definitely not on the players.
    Why do we keep passing back and sideways
    There is no outlet going forward and that’s on the Manager.
    Everton are playing to their strengths.
    Let’s play to ours.
    Wingers, Attack Attack Attack.
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    NO NO NO, we need a modern manager who can set us up in such a way so we can dominate games. No counters, no quick attacks, no no no, that just gives you wins, we do not need wins, we need a reset and a new philosophy, Socrates-Aristotle football.
     
    LDUred said:
    If we can, we should.

    If you have a limited group of players, you don't try to coach them into a new system. You consolidate and give them stability. He's had time to coach them, but it's going in the opposite direction to when he started.

    We cannot score goals and we don't look like scoring them. It's alarming how bad this is.
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    No matter what manager we have they need to replace pretty much the entire squad or else they'll be getting sacked fairly quick as well.
     
    Dazzmondo said:
    I was one of the most vocal critics of ETH here, but if people can't seriously see we're playing even worse under Amorim they're blind. Both of them have done a horrific job and Amorim shouldn't be allowed to just get away with it. Our hierarchy are idiots and have made consecutive wrong appointments. That's the reality.
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    Do you honestly think there is a manager in the world that could get this lot playing well? Sure there might be a Sean Dyche type who could temporarily band-aid solution things, get us up to 10th, but it'd be rinse-and-repeat next year. Not bringing in more reinforcements in January was farcical.
     
    Walters_19_MuFc said:
    From what perspective? If we're talking about failing to put the right footballing structure in place, then I completely agree. But from a financial standpoint, we’ve had more than enough to spend. Year after year, our recruitment has been poor—not necessarily in terms of signing bad players, because I don’t think our squad lacks quality. Are they title-winning players? Probably not. But they’re certainly capable of performing at a much higher level. Many of them have proven their worth at previous clubs and will likely do so again when they leave.

    It’s easy to pin everything on the Glazers, but Sir Jim Ratcliffe has now taken control of footballing decisions and brought in a team of highly regarded professionals. It may take time, but so far, nothing has changed. The handling of Dan Ashworth’s situation, in addition to the dismissal of ten Hag, in particular, makes us look amateurish.

    We’ve had success in recent years—contrary to popular belief, we’ve still won a respectable amount of silverware compared to other clubs. What’s really hurt us is our inconsistency in the league. But I don’t think the blame for that lies solely with the Glazers and I also don't think it will change if they were to sell the club tomorrow.
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    You say we have had enough to spend, but what is that costing us now?
     
    Playing Bruno and dorgu at the wings isn't working.

    Casemiro is a disaster in midfield.

    Maguire is having his brain fart moments.

    Hojlund is doing nothing.

    Zirkzee misplace so many passes.

    Onana.....enough said.

    Moan moan moan....what else can a united fan do though?
     
    I'd like to think this is a ploy by the players... play crap, lose every game, wipe value off the club, force the Glazers to sell the club in it's entirety before we're worth a whole lot less and it's not viable for them to stick around.

    Yep, i'm going to believe that, i'm going to convince myself thats why we're so bad. It's not the fact we have crap players, they're doing it for us... the fans! They're doing it to save us from the Glazers! (Yes, this is sarcasm)
     
    santeria13 said:
    He also assisted two goals in games not that long ago. Is he in bad form? absolutely. But he's less bad than the other options we have in attack at the moment. It's like picking between what shit smells the least bad.
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    You mean in the league cup?
     
    fergiewherearethou said:
    NO NO NO, we need a modern manager who can set us up in such a way so we can dominate games. No counters, no quick attacks, no no no, that just gives you wins, we do not need wins, we need a reset and a new philosophy, Socrates-Aristotle football.
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    We absolutely do. We can’t just keep hiring pragmatic coaches who will keep us in this vicious cycle.
     
    That was about as embarrassing a half of football as I can remember seeing. Absolutely no effort. Passing is horrid. Even if the pass were to get there, the 1st touch is pathetic. Defending is abysmal. I’m running out of negative adjectives.

    If you can’t beat them on talent, then your effort has to be better than theirs. We have neither talent nor effort.

    Let the fecking kids play. What’s the worst that can happen?
     
    The lack of effort is the most alarming thing. I don’t like questioning effort, but how comes Everton can press us constantly around our box, but we can’t manage the same? Our players do not want to do the basics which can lead to victory. Shocking.
     
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