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Everton 2:2 Manchester United

Goodison Park

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Sat, 22 February 2025 @ 12:30pm GMT
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  • Ceteris said:
    How many fecking formations can these stupid players fail at before you stop with this shit?
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    The players are not bad enough to lose 60% of PL games they have not lost that many not even in 1974, get a grip the coach is getting too many free passes!
     
    NoLogo said:
    If the players aren't will to move we can forget about being a PL much longer. Again a poo Everton side is outrunning and out muscling us on almost every contested ball. We look like snails vs cheetahs out there, again.
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    They have been on great form.
     
    Don't even what formation we're playing. Bruno wandering around at left mid half the time, zirkzee ambling around the half space somewhere on the right.

    Players slow as feck, second to every fecking ball. No one knows who to pass to and where.

    Maguire dropping an all timer performance. Might as well just sit down and take a fecking dump on the center life, will be as useful.
     
    Well...We are s... again.

    Onana: 3 The save before the goal goes straight into a dangerous area. Again
    Maguire 3: Ball watching at the first goal. Shipwreck of a performance.
    De Ligt: 5 Not good, but somewhat acceptable first 45 minutes.
    Mazraoui: 5 Acceptable, and at least showing some will.
    Dalot: 4 Underwhelming.
    Dorgu 7 The best United player by a country mile. Links up well with Bruno and is present in dangerous areas. Defensive also good.
    Ugarte 6 Runs and fights.
    Casemiro: 5 Too slow.
    Bruno: 6 Tries a lot. Light and shades.
    Zirkzee 5: Anonymous. Does not get a lot to work with.
    Højlund 5: See Zirkzee
     
    The score accurately reflects the game.
    My walking football team are quicker and have more pace than this Utd line up.

    Casemiro playing today is obviously a no option, desperation decision, with the injury situation and lack of midfield squad depth.
    Ugarte is having to cover trice as much ground to make up for Casemiro’s lack of mobility and pace, leaving us vulnerable, where we should be solid.

    Dalot is totally ineffective and pinned to the touch line by his marker.
    Continuing to hog the line in the circumstances, is brain dead.
    I’d replace him with Garnacho on the right.
     
    Looking back on the opening goal. Six attempts from United players including Maguire three times to clear the ball.

    How bad was Maguire was for that 2nd goal like under 12 defending.
     
    Oranges038 said:
    Maguire and De Ligt in a back 3 is a tragic combination. You might get away with one slow lump, but not 2.

    The state of the passing from this lot is disgraceful, wrong side, poorly weighted, bobbly, up in the air, receivers don't protect it.

    Just shocking on the ball.
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    Didn’t need to pick both of them, he has options even Lindelof would have been better. Than both together?
     
    I'm convinced we're cursed. How else can you explain a club just lurching from embarrassment to embarrasment, on and off the pitch for over 11 years. How do you explain every player that comes to the club with good reputation suddenly losing their ability to play football. How managers that come to the club with good reputation suddenly turn into clueless buffoons. How players that fail at the club move elsewhere and suddenly are good again. How players seem to be struck by some kind of mind virus when they step onto the pitch . Then there's all the "training injuries"..what was it last week. 4? And 3 of them central midfielders?

    If this was a series of Dream Team it would probably be seen as unrealisitc.
     
    Pace, power, skill, effort, composure, desire

    From back to front we have neither of them in this team

    Everton aren't playing any genius system, they are stronger and giving more effort.

    They are getting another manager the sack. He will take his money and leave if sacked

    We will still be stuck with these melons
     
    This is definitely not on the players.
    Why do we keep passing back and sideways
    There is no outlet going forward and that’s on the Manager.
    Everton are playing to their strengths.
    Let’s play to ours.
    Wingers, Attack Attack Attack.
     
    sullydnl said:
    We've seen Casemrio's skillset at the highest level. It's that of a defensive midfielder. His skillset doesn't change just because you put him in a different role.

    If he's our best option at #8, that's indicative of the problems and lack of balance & quality in our side. Because it means we're playing a player who fundamentally doesn't fit the profile of a #8 in that position. And worse, it may well be the case that we're poor enough that this player who would be a DM in an actual top side is our best option in that role.

    But it's still nonsense to try and pretend an Ugarte/Casemiro isn't obviously more defensive than ideal in any side. These are two players whose careers have been built on what they do defensively, with obvious deficiencies in what they do in possession relative to other less defensive midfielders.
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    No it's not. Not anymore. He simply doesn't have the legs for that anymore. What he still does fairly well, relatively speaking, is the creative side. Which I think gives him some potential to be a contributor in a more offensive role. As a DM, he is in my opinion downright unusable in the Premier League. A liability.
     
    Magical Manchester United said:
    I'm convinced we're cursed. How else can you explain a club just lurching from embarrassment to embarrasment, on and off the pitch for over 11 years. How do you explain every player that comes to the club with good reputation suddenly losing their ability to play football. How managers that come to the club with good reputation suddenly turn into clueless buffoons. How players that fail at the club move elsewhere and suddenly are good again. How players seem to be struck by some kind of mind virus when they step onto the pitch . Then there's all the "training injuries"..what was it last week. 4? And 3 of them central midfielders?

    If this was a series of Dream Team it would probably be seen as unrealisitc.
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    That’s exactly it.
     
    SirScholes said:
    I hate these stupid comments
    In what way would going down help us at all

    Name one club that got relegated and baring a Saudi buy out, is now a better club for it
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    I'm starting to worry we could whereas before I was like "three wins and we will be ok". Can't see where they come from at this stage :nervous:
     
    Hammondo said:
    How is he dangerous with some of the worst finishing?
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    Because he actually get's in positions to attempt to finish? We literally create zero chances with him or Amad not on the pitch. Zero. How is that better than at least having chances to miss?
     
    PoTMS said:
    We paid £100m in actual money for Zirkzee and Højlund. We paid £100m on Casemiro and Ugarte. We paid £120m on De Ligt and Maguire.
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    And none of them can even run!
    But the coach picked all of them today so he’s a clueless muppet, because when your losing 50-60% of matches your afforded to pick kids and take a chance!
     
    Freak said:
    Maguire is like an oversized chi hua hua. Makes lots of noise but breeds so much of uncertainty and nervousness
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    This. From the start, the ball comes to him with decent space around him and he justs blasts the ball out. No composure and just exudes uncertainty
     
    ken11 said:
    Which was more comical? The 1st or 2nd goal? I can't tell.
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    I'm past the laughing stage. It came after the anger and the fed-upness and the apathy. This downward spiral is never ending. Now I've just blocked out the pain and I watch matches with no relish in a state of zombie-dom. What's incredible is our home game against Ipswich coming up is massive now..and there are so many tickets being resold.
     
    DomesticTadpole said:
    Unfortunately that is the big issue and while they are still around not sure much will change.
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    From what perspective? If we're talking about failing to put the right footballing structure in place, then I completely agree. But from a financial standpoint, we’ve had more than enough to spend. Year after year, our recruitment has been poor—not necessarily in terms of signing bad players, because I don’t think our squad lacks quality. Are they title-winning players? Probably not. But they’re certainly capable of performing at a much higher level. Many of them have proven their worth at previous clubs and will likely do so again when they leave.

    It’s easy to pin everything on the Glazers, but Sir Jim Ratcliffe has now taken control of footballing decisions and brought in a team of highly regarded professionals. It may take time, but so far, nothing has changed. The handling of Dan Ashworth’s situation, in addition to the dismissal of ten Hag, in particular, makes us look amateurish.

    We’ve had success in recent years—contrary to popular belief, we’ve still won a respectable amount of silverware compared to other clubs. What’s really hurt us is our inconsistency in the league. But I don’t think the blame for that lies solely with the Glazers and I also don't think it will change if they were to sell the club tomorrow.
     
    Am really scared now.. Amorim has to compromise. We can't afford to be fecking relegated...:nervous:
     
    Atrocious. All Everton and any PL team does is put 7 players in our half in build up and we crumble to pieces. Just willing runners is all it takes to dismantle this weak and slow bunch of players with the football intelligence of toddlers. We can't pass the ball from deep, we can't pass out of the press and we can't hold the ball to win fouls either. Hell, we can't even accurately pass the ball to feet 10 yards forward under no pressure.

    There is nothing to analyze when the players are just that outmatched in drive and physicality. There is no use watching any PL games hoping for a win. All that's left is hoping for not to be further humiliated. I'm disgusted how willing United have become to just lose without any fight.
     
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