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Burnley 0:2 Manchester United

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    I'm expecting something weird like:

    De Gea
    Darmian Bailly Blind
    Valencia Pogba Herrera Young
    Fellaini
    Rashford Lingard​
     
    Android1974 said:
    If Bailly's playing, why can't we play 4-3-3 with a defensive line of Young–Bailly–Blind–Darmian (the fullbacks could feature either side)? We have more or less rested midfielders to hold on in Pogba–Herrera–Fellaini.
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    I'm sure we could, and it's a possible scenario for sure, don't get me wrong. I just think that as Blind might not be trusted as a CB by José and Young being much, much better as a wing back than full back, we'll go with 3-4-3
     
    The hard question is should we rest Bailly tomorrow and give Tuanzebe a game to save Bailly for City and Europe league ? An injury to him and we're done and I think we can do tomorrow without him.
     
    So far as I can tell, most people are expecting a similar lineup/formation to the Chelsea game, except for Herrera's position. And with Blind in Rojo's place and Fosu-Mensah in Valencia's. But will Rashford be available to start? Are we leaving two fresh players like Rooney and Martial on the bench?
     
    el3mel said:
    The hard question is should we rest Bailly tomorrow and give Tuanzebe a game to save Bailly for City and Europe league ? An injury to him and we're done and I think we can do tomorrow without him.
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    If we lose tomorrow, the City game will be for what, honor?
     
    el3mel said:
    The hard question is should we rest Bailly tomorrow and give Tuanzebe a game to save Bailly for City and Europe league ? An injury to him and we're done and I think we can do tomorrow without him.
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    I don't think we can rest Bailly (unless he seems really knackered in training) at the moment, as the PL match we'd save him for might end up being a dead rubber game, partly due to our defense conceding by not playing our best CB.
     
    top1whoisman said:
    I'm sure we could, and it's a possible scenario for sure, don't get me wrong. I just think that as Blind might not be trusted as a CB by José and Young being much, much better as a wing back than full back, we'll go with 3-4-3
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    I find Mourinho's suspicion of Blind as center-back exaggerated. He didn't enter the Anderlecht game well, was at fault for their goal (like Shaw), but had a very good game afterwards, in my opinion. But Blind did play for 98' and doesn't seem that well physically, so you could be right.
     
    Android1974 said:
    If we lose tomorrow, the City game will be for what, honor?
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    Even if we did, by beating City we'd be 1 point behind. Still, I agree that we need to win tomorrow. Our schedule is much tougher than City's or Pool's so can't drop points against Burnley. Won't be easy though, they'll have a huge motivation to secure their PL status tomorrow. Hopefully Vokes is out.
     
    top1whoisman said:
    I don't think we can rest Bailly (unless he seems really knackered in training) at the moment, as the PL match we'd save him for might end up being a dead rubber game, partly due to our defense conceding by not playing our best CB.
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    I don't see playing Bailly or not making much difference on the result imo whether we win or draw as he's not an attacking player who will change the game. We can do without him.

    Burnely will probably defend deep and try to get a draw.
     
    Android1974 said:
    I find Mourinho's suspicion of Blind as center-back exaggerated. He didn't enter the Anderlecht game well, was at fault for their goal (like Shaw), but had a very good game afterwards, in my opinion. But Blind did play for 98' and doesn't seem that well physically, so you could be right.
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    Yeah I'm not saying I wouldn't trust Blind at the centre.
     
    el3mel said:
    I don't see playing Bailly or not making much difference on the result imo whether we win or draw as he's not an attacking player who will change the game. We can do without him.

    Burnely will probably defend deep and try to get a draw.
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    Doubt it. The confidence they have due to our injuries and the possibility to practically secure their PL spot - I can see them approaching the fixture as a hungry team.

    To me the comfort and trust to each other is key to our defense performing well, which we truly need as we can't rely on our forwards scoring. And taking out our only constant figure at the heart of our defense would be a dumb decision in my humble opinion. Oh and defenders are just as important in terms of 'changing the game' as attacking players. Otherwise teams would win titles with weak defenses just by having enough 'game winners' up front.
     
    el3mel said:
    I don't see playing Bailly or not making much difference on the result imo whether we win or draw as he's not an attacking player who will change the game. We can do without him.

    Burnely will probably defend deep and try to get a draw.
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    If Burnley play deep, what use to use the Chelsea formation and leave Lingard-Rashford type attacking line isolated?
     
    top1whoisman said:
    Doubt it. The confidence they have due to our injuries and the possibility to practically secure their PL spot - I can see them approaching the fixture as a hungry team.

    To me the comfort and trust to each other is key to our defense performing well, which we truly need as we can't rely on our forwards scoring. And taking out our only constant figure at the heart of our defense would be a dumb decision in my humble opinion. Oh and defenders are just as important in terms of 'changing the game' as attacking players. Otherwise teams would win titles with weak defenses just by having enough 'game winners' up front.
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    I'm not saying defenders aren't important, but in a game where you'll be the one attacking and pressing the opponent, you can have a chance for resting one of your defenders for the more important games coming. If we didn't rest against Burnely when will we be able to rest him ?
     
    Android1974 said:
    They have an excellent home record, I think not many teams won there.
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    I know but can't see them playing for a win. They'll defend deep most of the game and try to nick from a mistake or a counter. If we didn't win , it'll be a draw imo.
     
    Android1974 said:
    If Burnley play deep, what use to use the Chelsea formation and leave Lingard-Rashford type attacking line isolated?
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    I don't want to play with this formation actually.

    I'll prefer Herrera, Fellaini and Pogba in midfield with Lingard, Rashford and Mikhi upfront.
     
    el3mel said:
    I'm not saying defenders aren't important, but in a game where you'll be the one attacking and pressing the opponent, you can have a chance for resting one of your defenders for the more important games coming. If we didn't rest against Burnely when will we be able to rest him ?
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    End of the season, or if/when we're out of Top 4 mathematically. That's kind of what happens when 3 of your 4 CBs are out for the season. Burnley is the 6th best home team in the league, so Swansea home next weekend would be more fitting to resting him, if that's a must.
     
    Android1974 said:
    If Burnley play deep, what use to use the Chelsea formation and leave Lingard-Rashford type attacking line isolated?
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    That's where we could tinker with it a little and give Pogba more license to roam forward, as he had to be more defensively disciplined against Chelsea. As Herrera wouldn't be doing a man-marking job, he and either Fellaini or Carrick would provide defensive cover. We would potentially sacrifice width on one side, but having Shaw back is a bonus. I don't think we will set up as such, and expect to see something similar to what we have been doing for the majority of the season against this sort of opposition. Never know though!
     
    el3mel said:
    I don't want to play with this formation actually.

    I'll prefer Herrera, Fellaini and Pogba in midfield with Lingard, Rashford and Mikhi upfront.
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    Yeah, me too, but I very much doubt Mkhitaryan is going to start, just having played 120'.
     
    top1whoisman said:
    End of the season, or if/when we're out of Top 4 mathematically. That's kind of what happens when 3 of your 4 CBs are out for the season. Burnley is thre 6th best home team in the league, so Swansea home next weekend would be more fitting to resting him, if that's a must.
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    We'll be risking him getting injured with this and joining our other injured CBs, but well I can your opinion.

    I have no problem with him playing as long as he remains fit and that's my biggest fear.
     
    Android1974 said:
    Yeah, me too, but I very much doubt Mkhitaryan is going to start, just having played 120'.
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    Martial can start then. He should get more game time now since Rashford will be moving to the center leaving Mikhi, Martial and Lingard , 2 or even all 3 will play behind him now. Martial really need to step up.

    There's Rooney, but let's forget about him...
     
    el3mel said:
    Martial can start then. He should get more game time now since Rashford will be moving to the center leaving Mikhi, Martial and Lingard , 2 or even all 3 will play behind him now. Martial really need to step up.

    There's Rooney, but let's forget about him...
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    Mourinho has been talking a lot about Rooney lately, and there's no signs of improvement from Martial, so…
     
    Android1974 said:
    Mourinho has been talking a lot about Rooney lately, and there's no signs of improvement from Martial, so…
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    Zlatan slows the pace down, Rooney goes backwards.. Burnley will no doubt play defensively tomorrow, the pace of Martial, Mhki and Rashford could suit us well.
     
    Android1974 said:
    Mourinho has been talking a lot about Rooney lately, and there's no signs of improvement from Martial, so…
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    Him favoring Martial - despite all problems Jose has with him - on Rooney when we were needing a goal against Anderlecht tell the whole story. Rooney will be used as a sub definitely but Jose's not really trusting him anymore.
     
    Valencia needs a break, so fair enough. Otherwise, just play Fellaini so he can negate Burnley's inevitable (and perfectly sensible) bus-parking by getting in the box at every opportunity. If necessary, just get the whole team to ping the ball at him from everywhere on the pitch: crosses from the fullbacks, long balls from Pogba, little chips from Miki and Lingard. Either they'll be offering us 90 minutes of that - surely worth a goal or two - or Burnley'll be forced to try and push out a bit to defend themselves, leaving gaps for Rashford, Lingard and Miki to exploit.

    Rashford Lingard
    ------Fellaini Miki
    Pogba Herrera
    Shaw Blind Bailly Darmian
    DDG​

    EDIT: I might consider swapping Herrera and Pogba from their usual sides of the pitch so Herrera can give extra defensive cover to Shaw and Blind, who are both potentially a little shaky/ring rusty.
     
    el3mel said:
    We'll be risking him getting injured with this and joining our other injured CBs, but well I can your opinion.

    I have no problem with him playing as long as he remains fit and that's my biggest fear.
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    Yeah I can totally understand what you mean. Unfortunately at the very business end of the season in our current state, we can't approach things from an injury prevention point of view. I know we'd be even more fecked if Bailly got injured, but one could've said that last Thursday about Rojo, too. That we shouldn't risk our two last CBs, so rest the other.

    But we needed a win (or 0-0), so we went with more or less our best possible lineup (bar Herrera). When you really need to win, you have to accept the risks and go for it. Hope for the best and fear for the worst. Oh and Bailly could get injured in training anyway.
     
    top1whoisman said:
    Yeah I can totally understand what you mean. Unfortunately at the very business end of the season in our current state, we can't approach things from an injury prevention point of view. I know we'd be even more fecked if Bailly got injured, but one could've said that last Thursday about Rojo, too. That we shouldn't risk our two last CBs, so rest the other.

    But we needed a win (or 0-0), so we went with more or less our best possible lineup (bar Herrera). When you really need to win, you have to accept the risks and go for it. Hope for the best and fear for the worst. Oh and Bailly could get injured in training anyway.
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    Let's hope everything goes alright for us then.
     
    top1whoisman said:
    You just know it won't. United, centre halves and injuries - the stuff dreams are made of :p
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    It won't be a United season if an injury crisis didn't happen for whatever reason. I'm getting used to having most of the team injured anyway. :D
     
    NotoriousISSY said:
    I'm expecting something weird like:

    De Gea
    Darmian Bailly Blind
    Valencia Pogba Herrera Young
    Fellaini
    Rashford Lingard​
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    Yeah I think he'll go with Darmian in a back 3 before trusting someone like Fosu Mensah. Jose likes Darmian.
     
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