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Burnley 0:2 Manchester United

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    Fearing this game, they'll have confidence seeing our performance yesterday, our missing and tired players. They are the 6th best team in the league at home, two points better than us, having played one less. Definately not an easy game.

    That being said, it's away where we for some reason are better than at home. Rest Rashford for the City game and hope Martial steps up.

    DDG - Young, Baily, Blind, Damien, Shaw - Herrera, Fellaini, Pogba - Martial, Lingard is what I think we'll see

    I'd love to see Mkhitaryan start and Tuanzebe instead of Blind because he can't possibly be worse at CB, but I doubt they will.
     
    I think we may have to take a gamble on Rooney for this one if he's fit. Relying on a 19 year old rashford to score every game is putting too much pressure on the lad.
     
    I think we may have to take a gamble on Rooney for this one if he's fit. Relying on a 19 year old rashford to score every game is putting too much pressure on the lad.

    That already happened with a 18-year old Rashford last season, so he's fine. ;) The fixture congestion might be too much though, even for a young player. So we need goals from Micki and the midfield. Would be the perfect time for Martial to wake up, but unfortunately I can't see that happening.
     
    can't remember the last time we scored there to be honest.

    Have we ever scored there?

    Do you give up?

    • Manchester United have scored just once in their last four league games at Turf Moor, with that goal coming from Lou Macari in a 1-0 win in April 1976. :nervous:
    Alright, so we don't play there very often, but at least Lawro thinks we will score.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39612236
     
    I can see something like this;​

    De Gea
    Young Bailly Blind Darmian
    Herrera Fellaini
    Lingard Pogba Martial(?)
    Rashford​
     
    José has come out and said Young & Herrera will play, which we all expected. Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah are pretty much guaranteed to be in the squad as well. Martial will probably be given a start, more due to lack of fresh players than anything. Lingard only played an hour so I think he's in, along with Rooney, Blind, and Darmian. Bailly and Pogba are likely going to have to play again, with Fellaini and de Gea making up the XI.

    de Gea
    Darmian Bailly Blind Young
    Herrera Fellaini Pogba
    Rooney
    Lingard Martial​

    Depleted squad, but Mkhitaryan and Rashford available for the last 20 minutes if it's tight gives us some great options.
     
    Anyone fit and reasonably well rested should start. Rashford and Mkhitaryan for last 30 mins if required.

    As an absolute minimum we have to match their work-rate.

    Carrick, Valencia and Shaw looked exhausted so I'd be concerned if they started.
     
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    Is there a pre-match press conference?

    It was held together with post Anderlecht. Should've been released at 14:00 BST. Some quotes are out, but haven't found the YT clip yet.

    He mentioned needing Tuanzebe. Rooney needed due to his experience even though not 100% fit yet.


    Re: Rashford and U21 euros in the summer:

    “I don’t want to go in that direction, I just feel that when a player reaches a certain level, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to drop levels.

    “It’s like now I am going to play [Rashford] in the Under 23s, to win let’s say a derby against Man City? No. Nicky Butt doesn’t pick him to play that game. He could by age but when you reach a certain level, and you reach that level for a long time, I don’t think it makes sense [to drop down] but the power is in their hands.”
     
    It was held together with post Anderlecht. Should've been released at 14:00 BST. Some quotes are out, but haven't found the YT clip yet.

    He mentioned needing Tuanzebe. Rooney needed due to his experience even though not 100% fit yet.


    Re: Rashford and U21 euros in the summer:

    Thank you very much, I hadn't seen the Anderlecht post match presser. Appreciate the summary.

    edit: Thanks @kundalini
     
    It was held together with post Anderlecht. Should've been released at 14:00 BST. Some quotes are out, but haven't found the YT clip yet.

    He mentioned needing Tuanzebe. Rooney needed due to his experience even though not 100% fit yet.


    Re: Rashford and U21 euros in the summer:

    Agree on him with Rashford quotes. I was sure that would be his opinion. Also it's better for Rashford to stay with the team to prepare for the next season rather playing in a competition that will give him nothing new imo. He already has enough experience of such age and should be aiming forward now.
     
    People wanting Rashford to start:lol:

    The guy is 19 and has ran himself into the ground for the last two games. Needs to be on the bench.

    I'd play 3-5-2 with Martial and Rooney as the centre strikers. Young and Darmian as the wing backs. We really need to be careful with team selection as we don't need want more players pulling up. Even someone like Bailly may need resting.
    The fact you'd play Rooney, ever, is beyond me. Exactly, he's 19, what's the need in resting him, sub him off if we need a defender or at around 60 mins anyway, don't you see how reliant we are on Rashford and Lingards movement recently. No one in the squad, not even lazy Martial gives us that intensity, movement and speed. Rashford and Mkhi need to play.
     
    DDG
    Mensah Bailly Blind
    Valencia Herrera Fellaini Pogba Young
    Rashford Lingard

    With Rojo is gone, and both Smalling and Jones are still injured, I thought it will be better to play 3 at the back. I'm not too convinced with Bailly and Blind as a pair for now. Blind hasn't play much as a centre back this season so probably go for 3 at the back.
     
    Sean Dyche previews the match:

    Sean Dyche is counting on the Clarets’ competitive edge to try and cut down Manchester United and bring an end to the former champions' six-month unbeaten Premier League run.

    Fifth-placed United are undefeated in 22 league games in a sequence stretching back to October as they head for a sold-out Turf Moor on Sunday.

    Jose Mourinho’s side also booked their place in the semi-finals of the Europa League with victory over Anderlecht on Thursday night.

    But they were unable to find a way past a defiant Burnley at Old Trafford in a 0-0 draw at the end of October.

    And after seeing his side beat Liverpool and Everton at Turf Moor, hold leaders Chelsea to a draw and lose only by the odd goal to Tottenham, Manchester City and Arsenal at home so far this season, Dyche is planning to make life awkward for another of the top-flight’s big guns.

    The Burnley boss said: “I think our fans are very genuine in our challenge compared with Manchester United’s challenge.

    “But we are in the same league again and to be fighting against each other for points is fantastic.

    “I think it’s good for us as a group. I think it’s good for the club and I think it’s good for the town.

    "I think that's a key thing, that competitive edge.

    “To think you are always going to outplay these teams is not impossible, but it’s improbable. They are very fine players, technically.

    “But that competitive edge and that competitive spirit - along with good organisation – and we have taken on every challenge with that.

    “We have shown our end of it by being so close on a few occasions and taking a couple of scalps along the way.

    “You need to turn up and play well and sometimes you need them to have a quieter day.

    “I won’t say we’ve become used to it (taking on top sides), but we have become more accustomed to it over the season, so it makes for a good game yet again.”

    The visitors will be without top scorer Zlatan Ibrahimovic and defender Marcos Rojo after they were both injured in the extra-time win over Anderlecht, which kept United’s twin-prong attack on a Champions League place on track.

    But Dyche still expects a major challenge from a star-studded squad operating under multiple title-winning boss Mourinho.

    He added: “They aren’t short of options. That player everyone thinks isn’t that good any more?

    “I always think he’s decent – the boy (Wayne) Rooney. If they chose to play him I don’t think he’d let anyone down!

    “I still think they have depth at that club and of course they are very flexible and have players who can play in many different positions.

    “Is it helpful if they have some injuries? Of course, because if players are playing regularly under a manager like Jose Mourinho it suggests he’s picking them for a reason.

    “But does it mean there aren’t other good players there? Of course it doesn’t. They are still a fine side, whatever side they put out, and they still have a fine manager, in my opinion.

    “For all there’s a bit of noise around games they could and should have won etc, it’s still a fair record to go 22 unbeaten.”

    On the injury front for Burnley, Sam Vokes, who teaked a hamstring in last weekend's 3-1 defeat at Everton, and Scott Arfield, who missed the Merseyside trip with a slight knee problem, are rated touch-and-go.

    But Johann Berg Gudmundsson is in contention for a place in the match-day squad as the Clarets look to protect an unbeaten home record in the Premier League against the 20-time league champions and add to their 10 Turf Moor victories to take a step closer to guaranteed safety.
     
    DDG
    Mensah Bailly Blind
    Valencia Herrera Fellaini Pogba Young
    Rashford Lingard

    With Rojo is gone, and both Smalling and Jones are still injured, I thought it will be better to play 3 at the back. I'm not too convinced with Bailly and Blind as a pair for now. Blind hasn't play much as a centre back this season so probably go for 3 at the back.

    Just seems a bit strange to go "we're short on centre backs... let's play 3 at the back!"
     
    De Gea
    Mensah - Bailly - Blind
    Valencia - Herrera - Pogba - Young
    Mkhitaryan
    Rashford - Martial​
     
    Just seems a bit strange to go "we're short on centre backs... let's play 3 at the back!"

    It does and it doesn't.

    You tend to play 3 when you're not confident you have 2 good ones, so its safety in numbers.

    We have Bailly. Blind is not a dominant centre back, so positioning him, and a similar player on the other side, both more at home wide sort of makes sense.

    It'll certainly be an interesting lineup tomorrow.
    One of Rashford and MK will surely have to start, even though both have put in big shifts 2 days ago.

    Get through this with whatever we can, play the best possible X1 Thursday, then we can rotate v Swansea. In theory!
     
    I'm amazed people are suggesting Rashford should start on the bench.

    He's 19 so fatigue won't be an issue plus he'll be on a massive high after the Anderlecht game, if I was him and got dropped for the game I'd be livid!

    Hope Rooney is no where near the starting 11, Martial starts and TFM/Axel get some minutes. I'd also like to see Shaw start but I think it's more likely Young will be at LB.

    We need to be as up for it as we were against Chelsea, huge 3 points at stake.
     
    Rashford will start for sure, even if he is a little fatigued. The alternatives have not been exactly convincing this season to say the least. Plus the fact that he will be brimming with confidence after the past weeks exploits.
     
    Just seems a bit strange to go "we're short on centre backs... let's play 3 at the back!"
    The main reason, though, is that we're very tired, so most probable we'll sit at the back ‘comfortably’, and then hope for some counterattacks.
     
    All the people with 3 at the back have to acknowledge that right now that option implies playing Darmian as wingback.
     
    Without Ibrahimović, and playing in a system that benefits Rashford's style, the most obvious substitute for the kid is Martial as center-forward. Rooney would imitate Ibrahimović lack of pace quite well, though.
     
    Rashford will start for sure, even if he is a little fatigued. The alternatives have not been exactly convincing this season to say the least. Plus the fact that he will be brimming with confidence after the past weeks exploits.
    I'm not so sure he will start. He'll be probably more useful late in the game, if we hold the fort before. And it might be risk in terms of injuries to play him so much, before the away City game where he's expected to cause chaos for Stones and friends.
     
    I'm not so sure he will start. He'll be probably more useful late in the game, if we hold the fort before. And it might be risk in terms of injuries to play him so much, before the away City game where he's expected to cause chaos for Stones and friends.

    Absolutely. I'd keep Rashford on the bench, he looked shattered at the end of the game and we just can't risk losing him to muscle injury.
    2 games a week from now on is going to be really tough. We could really do with a youngster grabbing the opportunity.... if any are given one.
     
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Possession
46% 54%
Shots
8 12
Shots on Target
0 6
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3 3
Fouls
17 16

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