FA Premier League

Brighton & Hove Albion 2:1 Manchester United

American Express Stadium

Kick-off
Sat, 24 August 2024 @ 12:30pm BST
Status

Closed

Discussion Your Lineup Prediction

  • Status
    Not open for further replies.
    Watching it back this morning, Everton looked far the better side in the first half. Brighton scored out of nowhere and the game was still pretty even after that. Having seen the scoreline going in I was expecting a mauling.
    Yeah you're right.
     
    Benchmark game against a resurgent Brighton, who have been consistently outplaying United for some time, and their tails will be high after splattering Everton last week as guests

    We literally won there not even 3 months ago and they didn't give Everton a "splattering" 2 terrible lapses in marking/positioning (no one marking Mitoma on their 1st goal and Pickford caught on the edge of the 6 yard box on the 2nd) by Everton and the 3rd goal didn't come until they had been playing 20 minutes up 1 man.
     
    We literally won there not even 3 months ago and they didn't give Everton a "splattering" 2 terrible lapses in marking/positioning (no one marking Mitoma on their 1st goal and Pickford caught on the edge of the 6 yard box on the 2nd) by Everton and the 3rd goal didn't come until they had been playing 20 minutes up 1 man.

    This was a dead rubber and they were (slightly) the better team despite already having started their holidays (and at the end of a spell of 1 win in 10 matches). I wouldn’t read anything into that.

    If we go there and go toe to toe with them this time, hopefully picking up a win, that will be really encouraging. We cannot look tactically outclassed, which has often been the case recently when we’ve played Brighton.
     
    A lot of people and pundits talking bollocks about our chances in this match. Would love to smash them and prove everyone wrong
     
    Maguire must start.....of course De Ligt is a much better player than him....but Maguire was our best player against Fulham in my opinion therefore to bench him would be wrong.
    Very good point. Ferguson was always adamant on keeping a winning thing. You have to earn your place back. That will drive players behind the scenes to keep up a very high standard. No position on the team should be guaranteed for a player. There's exceptions, if you're a prime Ronaldo or Messi.
    I get the sentiment but I'm not a fan of this approach. It's like you're almost waiting for them to put in a bad performance so you can drop them, rather than being proactive. I remember Ten Hag doing that with Mctominay 2 years ago, and it culminated in City putting 6 past us at the Etihad.
     
    I get the sentiment but I'm not a fan of this approach. It's like you're almost waiting for them to put in a bad performance so you can drop them, rather than being proactive. I remember Ten Hag doing that with Mctominay 2 years ago, and it culminated in City putting 6 past us at the Etihad.
    We haven't conceded 6 goals against them because of McTominay.....Ten Hag's line-up was wrong and our players were scared after only few seconds.

    And i understand your point too but @Garnacho Libre has said that.....De Ligt isn't world-class that he can easily replace Maguire.
    De Ligt has played just 10 minutes of proper football since May (0 minutes for the Netherlands at the Euros and 0 minutes in pre-season for Bayern Munich)....if he starts and makes a big mistake tomorrow (He had a little bad situation against Fulham) then i will avoid his performance-thread.
     
    I get the sentiment but I'm not a fan of this approach. It's like you're almost waiting for them to put in a bad performance so you can drop them, rather than being proactive. I remember Ten Hag doing that with Mctominay 2 years ago, and it culminated in City putting 6 past us at the Etihad.

    You don’t drop your best player from the last match (if fit), especially when the one who is being suggested to replace him came on and made at least one fairly rash decision that I can recall in the 10 minutes he was on. All 4 of our CBs will get plenty of chances this season and, over time, I’m sure ETH will favour De Ligt/Martinez but there’s no need to rush to bring someone in who is still acclimatising to the squad/league.
     
    You don’t drop your best player from the last match (if fit), especially when the one who is being suggested to replace him came on and made at least one fairly rash decision that I can recall in the 10 minutes he was on. All 4 of our CBs will get plenty of chances this season and, over time, I’m sure ETH will favour De Ligt/Martinez but there’s no need to rush to bring someone in who is still acclimatising to the squad/league.
    If this was Southampton at Old Trafford then I'd totally agree with you, but Brighton have carved our defence open more than once over the last couple of years, so I'm wary about starting someone as slow as Maguire vs their tricky forwards.

    Mctominay was our best player at home vs Arsenal in September 2022, but I still think Ten Hag should've dropped him for City away the following gameweek. I keep referring back to that example because I remember saying at the time that it felt like we were waiting for a poor performance from him so Ten Hag could drop him, and that's what ended up happening. It also led to Mctominay starting very few games for the rest of that season.

    I take your point about De Ligt acclimatising to a new league. Perhaps Mazraoui and Zirkzee's impressive debuts have convinced me otherwise.
     
    This is a really good test of our top 4 credentials. Will not be easy, unless we take our chances andstart banging the goals in early on.
     
    We haven't conceded 6 goals against them because of McTominay.....Ten Hag's line-up was wrong and our players were scared after only few seconds.

    And i understand your point too but @Garnacho Libre has said that.....De Ligt isn't world-class that he can easily replace Maguire.
    De Ligt has played just 10 minutes of proper football since May (0 minutes for the Netherlands at the Euros and 0 minutes in pre-season for Bayern Munich)....if he starts and makes a big mistake tomorrow (He had a little bad situation against Fulham) then i will avoid his performance-thread.
    He may not be world class but how many world class CBs in the world is there that are available? He is definitely an upgrade for our starting 11. And you're right, he has very little minutes under his belt. I think Ten Hag can get the best out of him and I think Bayern willing to sell him wasn't to do with his ability, I think maybe he didn't suit Kompany's style of play and maybe they wanted to offload him because of his high wages. It could be either or both factors. It could also be he was very willing to join us.

    I think Ten Hag will and should start Maguire tomorrow because it needs to be clear to every player, you have to earn your place.
     
    Not feeling optimistic. Someone here said we had lost 4 out of 5 or thereabouts at their ground.

    They usually tend to pin us back and we struggle to cope with how well they move the ball. Would love to see us match them this time.
     
    Not feeling optimistic. Someone here said we had lost 4 out of 5 or thereabouts at their ground.

    They usually tend to pin us back and we struggle to cope with how well they move the ball. Would love to see us match them this time.
    This is the last 6 meetings, per SportsMole.

    May 19, 2024: Brighton 0-2 Man Utd (Premier League)
    Sep 16, 2023: Man Utd 1-3 Brighton (Premier League)
    May 04, 2023: Brighton 1-0 Man Utd (Premier League)
    Apr 23, 2023: Brighton 0-0 Man Utd (FA Cup Semi-Finals)
    Aug 07, 2022: Man Utd 1-2 Brighton (Premier League)
    May 07, 2022: Brighton 4-0 Man Utd (Premier League)

    I don't think it's going to be an easy game. It's going to be interesting how United's improved style of play works against them. We were unlucky against City in Community shield and it worked in FA Cup final and mainly controlled the Fulham game. This game is under different circumstances and most fans are more optimistic because there is more to be optimistic about.
     
    He may not be world class but how many world class CBs in the world is there that are available? He is definitely an upgrade for our starting 11. And you're right, he has very little minutes under his belt. I think Ten Hag can get the best out of him and I think Bayern willing to sell him wasn't to do with his ability, I think maybe he didn't suit Kompany's style of play and maybe they wanted to offload him because of his high wages. It could be either or both factors. It could also be he was very willing to join us.

    I think Ten Hag will and should start Maguire tomorrow because it needs to be clear to every player, you have to earn your place.
    Kompany wanted to keep De Ligt, he liked him the most out of his cb‘s. The move was pushed through by the board.
     
    A lot of people and pundits talking bollocks about our chances in this match. Would love to smash them and prove everyone wrong

    It's so weird. From what I've seen most people are completely dismissing us this season. Most podcasts barely discussed our match against Fulham. Some podcasts I listened to barely previewed our match against Brighton. The Athletics tactics podcast didn't even discuss us. It's like everybody expects us to finish 6/7/8 ... That's it.
     
    One quality of winners is courage and self belief to absurd levels, if we aren't thinking of smashing Brighton this early in the season. We should as well pack our bags and go home.
    Let's not kid ourselves, we'll have the better 11 and the better bench, we are Manchester f**cking United. It's should be all or nothing.
     
    Brighton seem to love ruining any confidence we have in recent years so this worries me. That said I think we should win.
     
    Rashford, Zirkzee and Garnacho as a front 3 i’d like to see.
     
    Think Zirkzee and de Ligt will both start from the bench again.. Perhaps Garnacho in stead of Amad, but expect defense and midfield to stay intact..

    Hope both De Ligt and Zirkzee start though!

    Looking forward to it, have a very good feeling about today!
     
    This is the last 6 meetings, per SportsMole.

    May 19, 2024: Brighton 0-2 Man Utd (Premier League)
    Sep 16, 2023: Man Utd 1-3 Brighton (Premier League)
    May 04, 2023: Brighton 1-0 Man Utd (Premier League)
    Apr 23, 2023: Brighton 0-0 Man Utd (FA Cup Semi-Finals)
    Aug 07, 2022: Man Utd 1-2 Brighton (Premier League)
    May 07, 2022: Brighton 4-0 Man Utd (Premier League)

    I don't think it's going to be an easy game. It's going to be interesting how United's improved style of play works against them. We were unlucky against City in Community shield and it worked in FA Cup final and mainly controlled the Fulham game. This game is under different circumstances and most fans are more optimistic because there is more to be optimistic about.
    Ye they have such a good style of play aswell so I wonder if ETH goes for more of a counter attacking style today. We know Brighton will play an high line. This will probably be an end to end game. Brighton worry me though as their one of them teams that when they’re at their best they can tear you apart. Our record against them isn’t that good.
     
    One quality of winners is courage and self belief to absurd levels, if we aren't thinking of smashing Brighton this early in the season. We should as well pack our bags and go home.
    Let's not kid ourselves, we'll have the better 11 and the better bench, we are Manchester f**cking United. It's should be all or nothing.
    Doubt we’ll smash them. we should be winning though of course as we are the better team but they’ll have the home advantage and will be well up for it after their 3-0 win last week. First home game of the season for a new manager as well. Will be a very tough game but hopefully we come out on top. I’d take a 1-0.
     
    Doubt we’ll smash them. we should be winning though of course as we are the better team but they’ll have the home advantage and will be well up for it after their 3-0 win last week. First home game of the season for a new manager as well. Will be a very tough game but hopefully we come out on top. I’d take a 1-0.
    Yeah I'd consider eking out a result (win) as significant as 'smashing them'. We utterly failed at doing that last season, drawing and losing too often. That was positive from the opening day and how to see it continue.
     
    Yeah I'd consider eking out a result (win) as significant as 'smashing them'. We utterly failed at doing that last season, drawing and losing too often. That was positive from the opening day and how to see it continue.
    If we get the first goal then we probably win the game. We can afford to sit back or try to control the game as they’ll have to come out and attack more which will leave spaces for us to hopefully punish them. We need to start being more clinical, it’s gonna end up costing us. Luckily we beat Fulham but should have been 2 right at the end.
     
    A convincing win here would go a long way to calming my nerves for the season. I don't think we're going to do it but I hope we can win. If we want to contend again we need to be winning these types of games.
     
    Wouldn't it be great to get a convincing win here? Really set the marker for the season?

    It could go the other way though... we could be comfortably beaten and brought back down to reality.
     
    Believe he did. He posted about his mum 6hrs ago
    Luckily clarified as not his mum but someone close.

    Skysports pundit predicting 3-1 to Brighton. I think we will know more about our season after this game. We win and convincingly we can start to chase top 4. We lose and I think we are all looking through rose tinted specs.

    We have to step up here and against pool to define the season.
     
    Kind of a random one, but we don't have a 3pm kick off til the 7th gameweek.

    Anyone up on the elite athlete world - doesn't that impact performance? Regular schedules etc?

    I know we're in the end beholden to TV companies, but it is odd.
     
    If it’s one team I want us to smash it’s Brighton. Listening on talk sport and sky sports everyone is expecting us to drop points and for ETH to get sacked by Xmas. For the love of god let’s get a big win today and show them United mean business this season.
     
    It's so weird. From what I've seen most people are completely dismissing us this season. Most podcasts barely discussed our match against Fulham. Some podcasts I listened to barely previewed our match against Brighton. The Athletics tactics podcast didn't even discuss us. It's like everybody expects us to finish 6/7/8 ... That's it.
    None of the pundits seem to acknowledge just how badly our squad was decimated by injuries last season. Whenever we get mentioned in conversations for top 4, the go-to response is "they finished 8th last season". Like we didn't finish 3rd the season before that.

    I'd love to see us win most of our opening 10 games just to see the pundits do a full 180.
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.
Post-match discussion

Player Ratings

5.2 Total Average Rating

Highest Rated Player

Lowest Rated Player

Compiled from 228 ratings.

Score Predictions

141,46,63
  • Man Utd win
  • Brighton win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 30% Brighton 1:2 Man Utd
  • 18% Brighton 1:1 Man Utd
  • 8% Brighton 0:1 Man Utd
  • 8% Brighton 0:2 Man Utd
  • 8% Brighton 2:1 Man Utd
  • 7% Brighton 2:0 Man Utd
  • 6% Brighton 2:2 Man Utd
  • 6% Brighton 1:3 Man Utd
  • 2% Brighton 3:1 Man Utd
  • 2% Brighton 0:3 Man Utd
  • 1% Brighton 0:5 Man Utd
  • 1% Brighton 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Brighton 2:3 Man Utd
  • 0% Brighton 3:3 Man Utd
  • 0% Brighton 1:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Brighton 4:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Brighton 3:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Brighton 0:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Brighton 1:4 Man Utd
  • 0% Brighton 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Brighton 0:9 Man Utd
Compiled from 250 predictions.
Show more results Score Predictions League Table

Match Stats

  1. Brighton
  2. Man Utd
Overall Possession
48.2% 51.8%
Shots
14 11
Shots on target
5 4
Shots off target
6 5
Blocked shots
3 2
Total touches in the box
33 28
Goalkeeper saves
2 2
Fouls
9 13
Corners
4 4

Referee

Craig Pawson