Didn’t we bring him in for set piece coach? Which he was useless at. I doubt RVN will be taking up that role so we’d still need a new set piece specialist. I really want us to approach Villa or Arsenals. They have a good set piece coach.
Ruud van Nistelrooy has joined United's coaching staff
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That was a one-off. No Burnley manager (or any manager who got relegated with a premiership club to championship) has ever gotten a Bayern job, before. Hardly some kind of tradition
To be honest, it was a really weird appointment by Bayern that I think is going to explode in their facesWould like to see this happen but don't think it will , I think he has higher ambitions that been a coach working under someone else and some club will offer him a managers position.
I also don't think it's a given Burnley come straight back up, there's a lot of good teams in the championship and Burnley were dreadful last season.That was a one-off. No Burnley manager (or any manager who got relegated with a premiership club to championship) has ever gotten a Bayern job, before. Hardly some kind of tradition
The two managers under the new owners have ended up at Everton and Bayern. I'd argue that's a better success rate than United's assistant managers, whose records include Qatar, Russia, Norwich, Boro, Blackburn. If you look at a club like Brighton their record is impressive too, if you believe Burnley are attempting to follow a similar model then it's usually a decent career boost.That was a one-off. No Burnley manager (or any manager who got relegated with a premiership club to championship) has ever gotten a Bayern job, before. Hardly some kind of tradition
I think if there's a hint of truth in it then he'll be taking the United job as a kind of "keep warmed up" while he looks for a managerial job he actual fancies, rather than some kind of CV booster. There's obviously a lot to learn from someone as experienced as EtH and a club as big as United.
We did, but by the time he left his role had grown to be more of a First Team Coach.
Would like to see Van Nistelrooy working with Garnacho, Hojlund and Greenwood.
That could be our front 3 for the next 8 to 10 years.
That could be our front 3 for the next 8 to 10 years.
Rage bait.
prime Ruud in this City team would score 50 goals a season.
Sad thing is we didn't win much with him.
The bigger problem was we played some pretty mundane, boring, slow, football.
4-5-1 with Veron, Scholes and Keane, in CM on paper sounds incredible, but it just produced some pretty shambolic on-field displays.
I wonder if Erik gets on with him.
From memory I don't think Fergie did in the end before he went to Magreed.
From memory I don't think Fergie did in the end before he went to Magreed.
Wasn't it more about the fact that Ruud and Ronaldo literally had a fist fight at training and Fergie had to choose between one or the other?
I don't care if he's serving ice creams outside. Get him involved.
I can't be bothered to quote everyone who said they thought Van Nistelrooij did well at PSV - but as @KirkDuyt already said, he didn't. He did won the Dutch charity shield and cup, but both are seen as minor trophies. PSV is all about the title and making it far in Europe, and Van Nistelrooij didn't achieve much either way. Granted, he was up against a very strong Feyenoord side, but the problem more generally was that the team made little progress in the course of the season and didn't have a clear style. The fans weren't behind him, and it seems eventually he didn't have the full support from the squad anymore either. He actually quit himself (one match before the end of the season), but otherwise he might have been fired after the last match.
All that to say that Van Nistelrooij thus isn't really coming from a position of strength. He also actually didn't want the PSV job initially, cause he thought himself that he wasn't ready to be head coach yet; he had to be talked into it by PSV's management. (He was coaching PSV's youth team at the time, I think it was.) So he might actually be interested in working under Ten Hag, to keep learning and re-establish himself. I would think he'd be there to replace Van der Gaag though; being just an attacking coach does really seem beneath his level of experience. (And I did see news about Van der Gaag not being too much like Ten Hag and hence not complementing him much; so I could imagine United wanting a different profile there. I don't know what Van Nistelrooij is like as a coach in that regard though.)
@Eendracht maakt macht is the PSV specialist btw.
All that to say that Van Nistelrooij thus isn't really coming from a position of strength. He also actually didn't want the PSV job initially, cause he thought himself that he wasn't ready to be head coach yet; he had to be talked into it by PSV's management. (He was coaching PSV's youth team at the time, I think it was.) So he might actually be interested in working under Ten Hag, to keep learning and re-establish himself. I would think he'd be there to replace Van der Gaag though; being just an attacking coach does really seem beneath his level of experience. (And I did see news about Van der Gaag not being too much like Ten Hag and hence not complementing him much; so I could imagine United wanting a different profile there. I don't know what Van Nistelrooij is like as a coach in that regard though.)
@Eendracht maakt macht is the PSV specialist btw.
Anyone who was old enough to watch him as an adult, so they had an appreciation for the finer points of football, would never call him a poacher. But as you say, people do, which is aggravating because he was a complete center forward. And one of the best I’ve ever seen in a United shirt. One of the top five, easily, of the premier league era.
Maybe he could be a technical coach, overseeing training sessions for improving an attackers positional awareness, decision making, movement and technique as opposed to tactical attacking coaching?
I never heard that one but I thought it was more about Fergie playing Saha in the league Cup final over Ruud but it may have been about Ruud wanting to go to Madrid.
I suppose he could theoretically do all kinds of roles, and some possibly very well; but in terms of career status, I'd say that anything outside the Van der Gaat role sounds below him. I mean, he's apparently being considered to be Burnley's head coach. I obviously don't know how he feels about any of that himself though.
One of our best..no doubt about it and easily top 5.
I wanted this to happen for a long time. Can't believe it took United this long to give him a coaching position.
That is impossible because Greenwood will be playing somewhere in Italy and Garnacho + Hojlund at United...
Such a shame - one of the best strikers I’ve ever seen.
Ruud was never the reason we slipped during his years with United.
I also think Dortmund Haaland has been forgotten about now and people just think about what he is for City. That younger Haaland was awesome to watch
He ain't no Stevie G that's for sure. People kept going on and on about how him leaving gave pathway to Ronaldo but that's just to ease the pain of losing him. If we had both him and Ronaldo after they've both become more mature as players, we would have won a lot more.
As a fan of Ruud, I really hope he can take the job at Burnley at this stage, instead of becoming the assistant manager at United.
I firmly believe this as well, but I always feel like I'm in the minority even amongst United fans. Whenever I listen to debates about all time PL strikers, I often get the impression that United fans are too busy fighting Rooney's corner that they forget to bring up Van Nistelrooy. For me, it goes:
1) Ruud
2) Henry
3) Shearer
4) Rooney
5) Aguero
Agreed.
Joining the debate in the post immediately above I’d have to give the slight edge to Henry, but Ruud was an epic beast who’s flown under the radar for too long.
Henry
Ruud
Rooney
Shearer
Kane
I cannot really argue with that 5 but not necessarily in that order.
Add Kane to the list and it pretty much covers the best strikers over the Premier league era.
This is a smart move from INEOS. If ETH slips up mid season then they already have an interim in RVN which will then give them time to look for a full time man.
I would have thought that it would be the position vacated by Benni that he was being offered.
No it won’t. United are committed to selling the scumbag
Doubt that, Ruud has been a manager at PSV, so he'll more likely be an assistant if he were to come here and turn down Burnley manager job
As a player I loved Ruud. He was deadly. And a decent line leader.
however the team did play more fluidly when Saha was in instead of him
however the team did play more fluidly when Saha was in instead of him
Love RVN but wouldn't this be a step down? Can't see it happening.
The romanticism of it all is great... but is he the best coach we can find? Surely bringing back club legends is only the right move if they're the best in their field?
I just don't see other clubs doing this sort of stuff, you wouldn't see City appointing Aguero as their attacking coach.
I just don't see other clubs doing this sort of stuff, you wouldn't see City appointing Aguero as their attacking coach.
Loved Ruud as a player -my favourite Utd player ever, and I think it would be really cool to have him back.
However, I'm not sure about his managerial ability. Whenever I watched PSV, the play never convinced me, and it looked quite similar to what we played last season. I can just hope that he's a better coach than a manager though
However, I'm not sure about his managerial ability. Whenever I watched PSV, the play never convinced me, and it looked quite similar to what we played last season. I can just hope that he's a better coach than a manager though