The government and its supporters don't care about the hostages. They lied about how the IDF putting pressure on Hamas in Gaza would get the hostages released, in order to avoid a deal that will end or halt the war. In reality, they've been dying in the tunnels where they are held. And the number of hostages killed by actual Israeli fire is now probably in double digits.Tweet
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It's other parts of the north, not the Golan Heights.
The Golan Heights have been pretty safe throughout all this in recent months. The problem of its residents is financial as they are very much tourist based... And no one is going to be visiting there even though they are not attacked.
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Can you summarize what he's saying ?
That the question itself is basically wrong. He argues that not every territory can have its indigenous population. America can. Australia can. But Israel can't because it is basically a crossroad between Africa, Asia and Europe. He also mentions some basic facts like why are Jews called Jews, and Arabs called Arabs etc. Plus he spent some time on religious aspects of Jerusalem/Temple Mount question (e.g. the meaning of the furthest mosque).Can you summarize what he's saying ?
Most of today's news concerning Hezbollah indicates again a strong desire from Israel to go to war with them.I don't know about that. A sane government would not wish for that as Hezbollah can cause us a lot more damage than Hamas and the army is already strectched.
But as long as Netanyahu is not willing to end the war in Gaza, then the escalation with Hezbollah will also continue and you never know where it will lead to.
You waited about 20 minutes before this reply. People live in different time zones and have lives. Work, kids, commitments etc.Still waiting for a response from you.
It could be posturing. We've been hearing the same things for months now.Most of today's news concerning Hezbollah indicates again a strong desire from Israel to go to war with them.
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Yeah this is one of the craziest things I’ve read about, and a great example of the cruelty and stupidity of the Zionists.![]()
Imagine you can not collect your rain water on your own occupied land because the rain is the property of the occupier, and then a donkey comes and tell you "it is not apartheid".
Israel does not care about the hostages.The government and its supporters don't care about the hostages. They lied about how the IDF putting pressure on Hamas in Gaza would get the hostages released, in order to avoid a deal that will end or halt the war. In reality, they've been dying in the tunnels where they are held. And the number of hostages killed by actual Israeli fire is now probably in double digits.
I find this video pointless.
This figure is practically impossible to reach, I've seen estimates that are more along the lines of the 10k mark, which seems more reasonable. Which is still absurdly high.Tweet
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Let's not go overboard here. That was a tragic incident that was probably the result of a trigger happy soldier or soldiers, but it did not indicate a lack of will to release hostages.Israel does not care about the hostages.
If they did they would not have shot three carrying a white flag.
I find this video pointless.
It's starts off by saying, "Well the Homo-Genus precursor humans that were there 1.5 million years ago were neither Palestinian nor Jewish."
Well....yeah.
Yeah, the video is very intellectually dishonest:No shit Sherlock. I watched the start and thought the same. Without attacking the poster himself, @Giggsy PO seems to be continually grasping at straws posting anything he can that he feels backs up his views and yet when the source or content is challenged or picked apart he won't reply. It's the same as when he's tagged he often never replies. He then disappears for a while comes back and does the same again. Rinse and repeat. The same as he and the other one in here only ever post pro Israeli stuff from biased sources and refuse to acknowledge anything put to them to the contrary.
I get others have different views, but I can't respect them if they cannot ever truly back them up. I would respect them more if they were just honest, but continually trying to justify the indefensible or make weak arguments that have little relevance, especially at this point in time after everything that has and is continuing to happen, is just pathetic.
Yeah, the video is very intellectually dishonest:
It spends more time going into technical details going into the expansive history of human genenology that is wholly irrelevant to the current world.
You could apply that logic to every nation. "Well, Britain isn't native to the Anglo-Saxons and Ukraine isn't native to Slavic peoples, back in 500,000 BC the Neanderthals had very little genetic connection to the current peoples!"
Irrelevant to the current world? So you say the claims to Jerusalem are just some minor details which doesnt really matter? I beg to differ. It is exactly what matters. Where is he wrong? Tell me. Where is he dishonest? Just read this thread…arguments Oren tackles are used here regularly…Jews are just white settlers. They stole the land from native Palestinians. Disprove actual points, dont mock it with cheap shots that we are all ancestors from Lucy. Because we are.Yeah, the video is very intellectually dishonest:
It spends more time going into technical details going into the expansive history of human genenology that is wholly irrelevant to the current world.
You could apply that logic to every nation. "Well, Britain isn't native to the Anglo-Saxons and Ukraine isn't native to Slavic peoples, back in 500,000 BC the Neanderthals had very little genetic connection to the current peoples!"
Claims to Jersualem are very relevant....just don't fecking use genology from 1.5 million BC as an argumentIrrelevant to the current world? So you say the claims to Jerusalem are just some minor details which doesnt really matter? I beg to differ. It is exactly what matters. Where is he wrong? Tell me. Where is he dishonest? Just read this thread…arguments Oren tackles are used here regularly…Jews are just white settlers. They stole the land from native Palestinians. Disprove actual points, dont mock it with cheap shots that we are all ancestors from Lucy. Because we are.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/05/technology/israel-campaign-gaza-social-media.htmlIsrael’s Ministry of Diaspora Affairs ordered the operation, which used fake social media accounts urging U.S. lawmakers to fund Israel’s military, according to officials and documents about the effort.
Claims to Jersualem are very relevant....just don't fecking use genology from 1.5 million BC as an argument![]()
Nobody did, but ok.Claims to Jersualem are very relevant....just don't fecking use genology from 1.5 million BC as an argument![]()
You linked a video, where it's the first point the guy makesNobody did, but ok.
And in the second sentence he explained why it is completely irrelevant.You linked a video, where it's the first point the guy makes![]()
Months of extreme hunger have already killed many Palestinians in Gaza and caused permanent damage to children through malnutrition, two new food security reports have found
Two UN organisations said more than 1 million people were “expected to face death and starvation” by mid-July.
But then he goes on to say the Jews have the most rights to the land and then spends time saying how Palestinians don't have any rights to the land.And in the second sentence he explained why it is completely irrelevant.
Mate, whatYou waited about 20 minutes before this reply. People live in different time zones and have lives. Work, kids, commitments etc.
Also, to be fair, you're a fine one to talk about not replying tagged as you are frequently tagged and asked to reply and don't.
I am still wating for him to show me the 4 stories command center under Al- Shifa hospital that he promised to unravel.No shit Sherlock. I watched the start and thought the same. Without attacking the poster himself, [B]@Giggsy PO[/B] seems to be continually grasping at straws posting anything he can that he feels backs up his views and yet when the source or content is challenged or picked apart he won't reply. It's the same as when he's tagged he often never replies. He then disappears for a while comes back and does the same again. Rinse and repeat. The same as he and the other one in here only ever post pro Israeli stuff from biased sources and refuse to acknowledge anything put to them to the contrary.
I get others have different views, but I can't respect them if they cannot ever truly back them up. I would respect them more if they were just honest, but continually trying to justify the indefensible or make weak arguments that have little relevance, especially at this point in time after everything that has and is continuing to happen, is just pathetic.
MateExactly. You can't use any of that as an equation or comparison to today. Like I said, clutching at straws. Trying to use anything they can find to justify what's going on today and it's tiring.
I also find it incredibly insulting and disrespectful to call out other posters for not replying after twenty whole minutes when the poster himself continually ignores questions put to himself after replies to his own posts. It just feels sly and an almost cowardly way to try to gotcha others to make himself feel better for his own position on the issues, rather than to actually have honest discourse about current events in the region.
Have your opinion by all means but be able to defend it honestly. If it's a shit reason like 'Well I'm Jewish and I hate the Palestinians and Hamas and just want them all wiped out' or 'Jews are more entitled to this land and peace can never be achieved so this is the only answer,' then fine. We can disagree, vehemently but at least it's fecking honest. All this false justification while ignoring the real issues that Israel is fecking lying to the world, commiting war crimes and crimes against humanity such as genocide, ignoring international laws, mugging everyone off including those that fund and back then religiously, it's just dishonest and a needless derailment of the thread.
We need opposing views, I've always said that, and I understand why anyone who is supportive of Israel won't post here, but at least those that don't post understand why. Israel's actions became indefensible a long time ago, it's pointless even trying to justify their bullshit anymore.