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I'll start saying that I do not like him as a fella, yet I can see where he is good and what I do not like of him.

POSITIVES:
.Great pass.
.Great strike.
.Pride and confidence.
.No surrender attitude.
.Numbers, he is a player that it's hard to have a season without putting a good number of assists or goals.

NEGATIVES
.I don't like him as a leader, he isn't as talented as he thinks he is and he constantly blames others no matter if a certain bad play it's entirely his fault.
.He's composure as a whole: he lacks it regarding controlling the ball, holding it and distributing it and he also lacks it regarding the way he manages with Refs and his mates.
.He plays too many times in a rush not only because of being direct and goal focus (the good part), but also because he lacks the ability to dribble, to retained it, to find or make the time for another play or distribute better.

So all in all, FOR ME, to make him a leader of any team it's a mistake, yet he has traits that if someone has the personality (and talent) to deal with his Ego in the middle, while having him on check and not letting him "managing" everything, he can certainly work and be a great asset. Even as infuriating as he can become at times.

At the same time, United or any team with him will need to provide in a strict fotoball sense abilities he doesn't bring to the table, combining him with only extremely direct players only + mostly defensive minded ones, not a great mix.

This period in time in EPL, ain't old England style or Serie A in the 90's where we could see a match with Totti on one side launching long balls and Veron on the other doing the same constantly while both teams pressuring the whole game trying "to play on the rival's mistakes".
Constantly risking it in such scenarios wasn't that much of a big deal, since the ball instantly could return to either side. In these days you sometimes can't recover the ball for ages.

Do I think he is a player to built a huge team on him? nope. Do I think he can be a great asset in a strict fotball sense/abilities? Totally...DO I think his ego can deal with that and he'll calm down a notch and become more mature player from now on? I doubt it.
He absolutely is a leader. He plays through injury, his work ethic is exceptional, and he sacrifices his penalties for his teammates when they're going through a bad run of form and need a goal.

You've let your hatred for Bruno cloud your judgement. There's nothing wrong with that - I hated Suarez to such an extent that I wouldn't allow myself to praise him without also mentioning what I saw as perceived negatives to his game. However, I also didn't post on Liverpool forums offering my negative opinions on their best player.
 

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I'll start saying that I do not like him as a fella, yet I can see where he is good and what I do not like of him.

POSITIVES:
.Great pass.
.Great strike.
.Pride and confidence.
.No surrender attitude.
.Numbers, he is a player that it's hard to have a season without putting a good number of assists or goals.

NEGATIVES
.I don't like him as a leader, he isn't as talented as he thinks he is and he constantly blames others no matter if a certain bad play it's entirely his fault.
.He's composure as a whole: he lacks it regarding controlling the ball, holding it and distributing it and he also lacks it regarding the way he manages with Refs and his mates.
.He plays too many times in a rush not only because of being direct and goal focus (the good part), but also because he lacks the ability to dribble, to retained it, to find or make the time for another play or distribute better.

So all in all, FOR ME, to make him a leader of any team it's a mistake, yet he has traits that if someone has the personality (and talent) to deal with his Ego in the middle, while having him on check and not letting him "managing" everything, he can certainly work and be a great asset. Even as infuriating as he can become at times.

At the same time, United or any team with him will need to provide in a strict fotoball sense abilities he doesn't bring to the table, combining him with only extremely direct players only + mostly defensive minded ones, not a great mix.

This period in time in EPL, ain't old England style or Serie A in the 90's where we could see a match with Totti on one side launching long balls and Veron on the other doing the same constantly while both teams pressuring the whole game trying "to play on the rival's mistakes".
Constantly risking it in such scenarios wasn't that much of a big deal, since the ball instantly could return to either side. In these days you sometimes can't recover the ball for ages.

Do I think he is a player to built a huge team on him? nope. Do I think he can be a great asset in a strict fotball sense/abilities? Totally...DO I think his ego can deal with that and he'll calm down a notch and become more mature player from now on? I doubt it.
Your post explain it all. The positive parts are easy to see: great passes, great shot, great work ethic and confidence.

Whereas, you have to make long sentences to explain in detail his weaknesses. They don't sound convincing at all to tell you the truth.
 

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Your post explain it all. The positive parts are easy to see: great passes, great shot, great work ethic and confidence.

Whereas, you have to make long sentences to explain in detail his weaknesses. They don't sound convincing at all to tell you the truth.
Come on man. Clearly Bruno isn't some infallible player who has no negatives.
 

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With the amount of astronomical salaries that we will get rid of this summer, we can definitely renegotiate his current contract, and give him a raise, and we can add a current option to extend his contract if the club wants it.

His agent is smart, to be honest.
  • Casemiro – £350,000 a week. - Will likely be sold this summer
  • Jadon Sancho – £350,000 a week. - He will be on loan, with part of his wages paid by Dortmund. On the off chance we sell him, that's £700.000 of the wage bill.
  • Raphael Varane – £340,000 a week. - Gone, so that's £1.040.000 freed up
  • Marcus Rashford – £325,000 a week.
  • Anthony Martial – £250,000 a week. - Gone, so that's now £1.290.000
  • Mason Mount – £250,000 a week.
  • Bruno Fernandes – £240,000 a week.
We also got another £890.000 released from Cristiano Ronaldo and David De Gea combined. That's almost £2.000.000 freed up weekly, and the replacements are nowhere near the money from the players that left.

There is a good chance that all this talk will go away with him signing a new contract on improved terms.
 

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His current contract is until 2026, with option for a one year extension.

There's no reason to throw an extension his way right now.
 

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He absolutely is a leader. He plays through injury, his work ethic is exceptional, and he sacrifices his penalties for his teammates when they're going through a bad run of form and need a goal.

You've let your hatred for Bruno cloud your judgement. There's nothing wrong with that - I hated Suarez to such an extent that I wouldn't allow myself to praise him without also mentioning what I saw as perceived negatives to his game. However, I also didn't post on Liverpool forums offering my negative opinions on their best player.
Your post explain it all. The positive parts are easy to see: great passes, great shot, great work ethic and confidence.

Whereas, you have to make long sentences to explain in detail his weaknesses. They don't sound convincing at all to tell you the truth.
I didn't imply that he doesn't act like a Leader, I just don't like his type of leadership in too many ocassions in the pitch.
Yet that isn't sthg. that bothers me that much, I've mentioned it because being the Leader of the team and his style of game I don't know how he would handle sharing the reins of it with a player with a diff profile than him that I think United needs, or put it simply I preffer another type of player as a leading playmaker. If he can adapt, I even think that he will enhace his game and best traits.

I actually think that I pretty much conccur with @JaffyJoe's view on him in an strict football sense, I think he summarized pretty much exactly how I see him as a player.
Even if Bruno was the most likeable fella on earth, I still don't like how he plays most of the times and I find not that easy to imagine him changing his chip after all of these years with the same approach. I've just mentioned that I don't find him likeable as a lad just to be honest, but that doesn't affect how I see his game per se.


PD: I'm not a Liverpool fan, I've already explained it, I just can't find where to remove that in the Profile
 

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Will be good to watch next season when other creative players will contribute more goals and assists in Bruno's absence
 

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It's alright - we've got Mason Mount. At least when Bayern take him off our hands we'll have more control, or something.
 

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Will be good to watch next season when other creative players will contribute more goals and assists in Bruno's absence
Interesting how Newcastle with a midfield of Longstaff, Joelinton and Bruno Guimaraes scored over 80 goals in the league without a creative player like Bruno. Almost as if not relying on a single player to create has something to do with it.
 

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Could anyone blame him for wanting to leave? He's too good to be languishing at an 8th place team surrounded by crap like McTominay/Wan Bissaka/Maguire/Lindelof etc.
 

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Interesting how Newcastle with a midfield of Longstaff, Joelinton and Bruno Guimaraes scored over 80 goals in the league without a creative player like Bruno. Almost as if not relying on a single player to create has something to do with it.
That the same Newcastle that don't have any European football, that we dicked in a final last year, and that we beat a few weeks ago with an assist from Bruno Fernandes? That Newcastle?
 

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That the same Newcastle that don't have any European football, that we dicked in a final last year, and that we beat a few weeks ago with an assist from Bruno Fernandes? That Newcastle?
What has that anything to do with what I said? They scored 85 goals in the league with that midfield without a creative midfielder like Bruno. We scored 57. Yeah, that Newcastle.
 

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It's alright - we've got Mason Mount. At least when Bayern take him off our hands we'll have more control, or something.
Mount, Amad and Olise perhaps? It'll be interesting to see who takes up that role if he does leave. Leaving aside obvious questions about quality, replacing Bruno's unbelievable fitness and durability with one of those players will be quite the task.
 

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It will be a difficult transfer for Bruno to leave the club. United are in a strong negotiation position as he has a long contract with us and other clubs will find it hard to meet our valuation. If they want to spend an extortionate sum of money to take him, then fair enough but I think this will die down quickly.
 

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Mount, Amad and Olise perhaps? It'll be interesting to see who takes up that role if he does leave. Leaving aside obvious questions about quality, replacing Bruno's unbelievable fitness and durability with one of those players will be quite the task.
Amad and Olise are both better suited to playing as a RW. If we sold Bruno, we'd have to sign someone to fill his shoes. But as you touched on - his fitness, work rate and overall output will be very difficult to replace.
 

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Amad and Olise are both better suited to playing as a RW. If we sold Bruno, we'd have to sign someone to fill his shoes. But as you touched on - his fitness, work rate and overall output will be very difficult to replace.
Amad has the qualaties to be a 10 barring real experience, he isn't a really winger IMO
 

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Amad has the qualaties to be a 10 barring real experience, he isn't a really winger IMO
Maybe not a traditional winger, however I think he has the tools to be an excellent inside forward. His dribbling, his ability to beat a man and his willingness to track back and help out his full back are all positive indicators.
 

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That’s not how It works under this regime. We wish him all the best he deserves a Champions League campaign next season.
Lets hope so.

Maybe all your talk has become apparent to Bruno too - he certainly deserves a few titles and to play with more competent players. The most logical solution is to leave the ship.

Its all paper talk, agents making their moves, bla bla
 

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No way Bayern pay anywhere near what we will want for him. As others have said we're in a strong position, tell him if someone meets the valuation he can go, otherwise he stays on his current contract.

No way I'd be giving him an increase given he's tied up for the next 3 years.
 

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He should do a Rashford or Sancho, as United then will be rewarding his time here with a low fee transfer.

probably some in here are new United fans. But in the past, SAF always reward his long servants that were given their all, which Bruno has been, with low transfer fee to clubs of their choice.
 

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He’s going to be 30 in September with two years left on his contract.

for once can we be sensible and let the contract run out or sell him for the good money

last thing we want is be stuck with a 34 year old on massive wages.

If he was a kroos or modric, might be a different story but I don’t see him having the influence at 34 they that do / did
 

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Get him a pay rise and he will stay.
Bruno is a fiercely competitive individual who puts his all on the line match after match, and wants to win the top honors in the game. What seems most important for him is contributing to challenges like winning a major domestic league or the champions league while he's at the peak of his powers. For that, he needs to be in clubs with top players and high ambitions. At the moment, from the looks of things, United offer neither - that is what I'd be more worried about. That we as a club are not matching the ambitions of our best player. I don't think he'll be swayed by money alone - it'll definitely be a factor, but not the factor - INEOS needs to truly convince him of their ambitions, and show it in their decisions, recruitment and management.

These rumors, along with his post pre-final - makes me think he's genuinely considering leaving this summer if possible. Would be heartbreaking if that happens.
 

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He should do a Rashford or Sancho, as United then will be rewarding his time here with a low fee transfer.

probably some in here are new United fans. But in the past, SAF always reward his long servants that were given their all, which Bruno has been, with low transfer fee to clubs of their choice.
Are you drunk or smoking something?
 

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If he goes it better be for a huge fee. His value to us is immense, as we try to rebuild the squad. Sell him without the possibility to significantly reinvest and we go backwards.
 

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Bruno is a fiercely competitive individual who puts his all on the line match after match, and wants to win the top honors in the game. What seems most important for him is contributing to challenges like winning a major domestic league or the champions league while he's at the peak of his powers. For that, he needs to be in clubs with top players and high ambitions. At the moment, from the looks of things, United offer neither - that is what I'd be more worried about. That we as a club are not matching the ambitions of our best player. I don't think he'll be swayed by money alone - it'll definitely be a factor, but not the factor - INEOS needs to truly convince him of their ambitions, and show it in their decisions, recruitment and management.

These rumors, along with his post pre-final - makes me think he's genuinely considering leaving this summer if possible. Would be heartbreaking if that happens.
All he's said is that as long as he's wanted by the club he wants to stay, isn't it.

If he's angling towards a contract extension with increased wages at this stage, he can feck off.
 

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All of you posters saying, it better be for a good fee. We are not known for spending money wisely, or targeting the right players, especially when it comes to paying top dollar. Lukaku, Pogba, Maguire, Sancho, Antony and so on.

We spend a lot of money, while buying players that are nowhere near good enough to be starters, let alone trying to replace Bruno.

New structure might change that, but I rather we don't risk it at the minute. We don't want to be fixing what's not broken at the moment.
 
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If we do let him go, it needs to be for a substantial transfer fee, as any replacement for him is going to cost an absolute bomb.
 

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He has 2+1 left on his contract. No reason to extend.
Its the exact reason why this is all coming out, Brunos agent or Bruno himself wants the last big contract. At 29 going on 30 he wont get another big contract again after his current one runs out, not in Europe anyway.
 

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I'm not Bruno out but every player does have their price.

If Bayern offer 60M then no, he's worth more both in dollar value as well as value to the team; but 100M+ (which I very much doubt they, or anyone else, would anyway)? That has to be considered good business for a player about to turn 30.
 

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I think he'd suit Bayern, they need a playmaker. A lot of attacking options but the attack is often disjointed. Would be interesting to see how he does surrounded by top players.

Would I sell him for £60m? Hell no. You get Mason Mount for that, who if he stays here for 10 years will do less than what Bruno does in a year. But I wouldn't begrudge him the move, we're still 3-5 years away from challenging if we get our next few transfer windows right, by which time he'll be at the start of his decline (could be sooner too given how many games he's played).
 

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Its the exact reason why this is all coming out, Brunos agent or Bruno himself wants the last big contract. At 29 going on 30 he wont get another big contract again after his current one runs out, not in Europe anyway.
Yup, I get why he would want one at this point, but we have no reason to budge. Club holds all the cards here.
 

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Bruno is a fiercely competitive individual who puts his all on the line match after match, and wants to win the top honors in the game. What seems most important for him is contributing to challenges like winning a major domestic league or the champions league while he's at the peak of his powers. For that, he needs to be in clubs with top players and high ambitions. At the moment, from the looks of things, United offer neither - that is what I'd be more worried about. That we as a club are not matching the ambitions of our best player. I don't think he'll be swayed by money alone - it'll definitely be a factor, but not the factor - INEOS needs to truly convince him of their ambitions, and show it in their decisions, recruitment and management.

These rumors, along with his post pre-final - makes me think he's genuinely considering leaving this summer if possible. Would be heartbreaking if that happens.
while I have no doubt about this competitiveness and dedications still as our captain and the player who probably performed the best out of everyone else he’s what the 8/9th highest paid in the club?