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2023-24 Performances


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4.6 Season Average Rating
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38
Goals
3
Assists
2
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Not ruling him out yet but we're in bother if he doesn't start to perform this season. He's not with €95m though. We've got to stop spending this ridiculous money on players like this. Fair enough if Ten Hag wanted him but once those numbers are quoted then we simply must say no thank you.
 
:lol: I’m sorry but hes not going to improve enough to justify his fee
Who fecking cares about the fee? Did it come out of your pocket? It’s such a facile argument. Antony got 8 goals last season, what’s a return in goals and assists that justifies your imaginary valuation? It’s tedious.
 
This is the thing: he clearly needs an overlapping fullback, but his game as a whole is severely lacking and his ability does not warrant him being catered for, which is disappointing.

I believed he had the game to become a star here, but he is not showing the in-game intelligence or competence to utilise the little he seemingly has to his game, let alone expand.

His passing in particular is the biggest letdown for me. His dribbling is a gimmick and his shooting and crossing are substandard, but it's his passing compounded by his decision making that really concern me. The amount of times he flubs basic, short passes with undercooked passes whilst off balance is dreadful. What's more is he makes the unforced errors that hand the ball to the opposition directly and has our own attack suddenly in disarray as any decent oppo ball carrier or passer can immediately spring his team 40+ yards up the pitch because of that terrible pass - he's good for so many of them that it has to be a tactical window for opposing managers to expect and exploit - let him receive the ball in open space, corral him and watch him pass out poorly.

The few times we see a decent to good game from him, it's followed up by multiple poor ones that has all credit built lost again.

I believe what's happening to him away from the pitch is affecting him, but if it is the case, he should be out the team and the spotlight. He shouldn't be written off, but at the same time, he isn't a special talent you legislate for and others should get their chance to make the RW spot their own.

Wasn't this all very, very clear before we even signed him? That entire transfer thread was fecking insane. People were wanking themselves silly over one of the most underwhelming highlight reals for a winger I'd ever seen.

It was like watching a group of people masturbating to granny porn, and trying to convince everyone else how great it is. Almost dystopian.
 
Who fecking cares about the fee? Did it come out of your pocket? It’s such a facile argument. Antony got 8 goals last season, what’s a return in goals and assists that justifies your imaginary valuation? It’s tedious.
Yes it came out of my pocket when ticket prices, memberships, match day expenses, all went up.
 
People forget that Ten Hag wanted Gakpo but the club wouldn't pay the quoted price.

We overpaid for Antony because they dropped the ball with Gakpo and ran out of time to get an alternative.

This isn't a Ten Hag issue, he wanted a cheaper and better player, the club let him down.
 
People forget that Ten Hag wanted Gakpo but the club wouldn't pay the quoted price.

We overpaid for Antony because they dropped the ball with Gakpo and ran out of time to get an alternative.

This isn't a Ten Hag issue, he wanted a cheaper and better player, the club let him down.

:lol::lol:
 
Needs to be dropped. All the talk about "earning your place" will fall flat if he still starts games.
 
He's playing with someone with twice his experience who is throwing a strop because of being played "out of position" and someone with even less experience than he has. Not necessarily making excuses but let's review what he can do once we get someone who gives a shit for him to link up with
 
I remember him looking decent towards the end of last season. He’s definitely better than what he performed yesterday
 
Hopefully he can develop a right foot of some kind.

Valencia never developed a left foot in all his time. Being one footed isn't the problem - if your plan A is good enough to deliver the goods. Loads of good or even great players were hideously one footed, but they were still undefendable because their other qualities overwhelmingly great.

Antony is hideously one footed and has no elite qualities. That's the problem.
 
He might not have amazing end product but I think EtH really values his pressing ability above much else. Perhaps he will perform somewhat better when Højlund enters. But we really overpaid at the end of day.
 
Will probably be the signing that ETH lives and dies on.

the main surprise for me is that he was able to become a professional footballer and be so one footed. My weaker foot is stronger than his weaker foot and I believe that. I am Sunday league.

At best he is a Championship level player.
 
Valencia never developed a left foot in all his time. Being one footed isn't the problem - if your plan A is good enough to deliver the goods. Loads of good or even great players were hideously one footed, but they were still undefendable because their other qualities overwhelmingly great.

Antony is hideously one footed and has no elite qualities. That's the problem.

Valencia had pace. That was his quality. He was very one dimensional also.
Nothing wrong with being one footed, but even good players can atleast pass or cross with their weaker foot, even Giggsy developed a right foot.

Edit. I get your point though
 
People forget that Ten Hag wanted Gakpo but the club wouldn't pay the quoted price.

We overpaid for Antony because they dropped the ball with Gakpo and ran out of time to get an alternative.

This isn't a Ten Hag issue, he wanted a cheaper and better player, the club let him down.

EtH would have ideally wanted taken both but when the Antony got expensive we could afford 1 and EtH chose the one who he preferred also who played in a position of need.
 
He's playing with someone with twice his experience who is throwing a strop because of being played "out of position" and someone with even less experience than he has. Not necessarily making excuses but let's review what he can do once we get someone who gives a shit for him to link up with
Not necessarily making excuses then proceeds to make a excuse. Was only half kidding that you genuinely think every problem at the club is somehow linked to Rashford but starting to think you might actually believe that. Seriously lad who hurt you when it comes to Rashford? You have to let it go at some point.
 
Valencia had pace. That was his quality. He was very one dimensional also.
Nothing wrong with being one footed, but even good players can atleast pass or cross with their weaker foot, even Giggsy developed a right foot.

Coupled with strength. At his best he was a predictable but quite unstoppable machine down the right.

I reckon in his 300+ games here, he used his left in double digit numbers to kick a ball. I don't think that's a major problem.
 
In a way its almost good he didnt. We didnt need his performance to be covered up with a goal.

Just like when he eventually scores or assists, his fans will come in here and make it out as if we are all wrong and they were right about him all along.
Yesh, what a shit thing it is when a United player does not score, relieved slmost
 
Coupled with strength. At his best he was a predictable but quite unstoppable machine down the right.

I reckon in his 300+ games here, he used his left in double digit numbers to kick a ball. I don't think that's a major problem.
And a warriors heart. Admiration for him on that regard.
 
There are cases where that's justified. But this clearly isn't one of them. If we signed Haaland tomorrow Antony would still be a terrible passer/crosser/creator that can't beat a man.

With how people go on about the striker thing you would think he puts in dangerous crosses that just need a striker. Dare I say AWB crosses look more dangerous.
 
When I see Mitoma, it is what Antony was supposed to be. Have never seen him do what Mitoma did yesterday in the league.
 
The turn around we would need for this guy to be classed as anywhere near exist is genuinely something I can’t think of a comparison for. Can anyone provide an example of a player being this bad then going on to be a real success?

I’m done holding out hope for this dross.
 
Who fecking cares about the fee? Did it come out of your pocket? It’s such a facile argument. Antony got 8 goals last season, what’s a return in goals and assists that justifies your imaginary valuation? It’s tedious.
Being a good player who can actually beat a fullback and actually be able to use his weaker foot would be a start. The odd few goals and assists isn’t enough, he needs to become a dangerously effective wide player in ALL phases of play not just the counter. He does not have it
 
Who fecking cares about the fee? Did it come out of your pocket? It’s such a facile argument. Antony got 8 goals last season, what’s a return in goals and assists that justifies your imaginary valuation? It’s tedious.

One of the most braindead posts I have seen in over 10 years on the caf. Of course the fee matters. There's such a thing as a transfer budget, of which 80m is a massive portion to spend on a player that quite frankly isn't even looking worth 40m. Spending such a large sum and not getting a return on investment in terms of performance is a huge issue - I don't see how you can argue otherwise.
 
Will probably be the signing that ETH lives and dies on.

the main surprise for me is that he was able to become a professional footballer and be so one footed. My weaker foot is stronger than his weaker foot and I believe that. I am Sunday league.

At best he is a Championship level player.

Wow :lol:.
 
if he scores its 1-1 and the game is wide open. we could have won and he would have been one of the major factors. fine margins.
 
Has to go down as one of the worst signings in United history. Plenty of company, but I think he clears the rest of the list.
 
One of the most braindead posts I have seen in over 10 years on the caf. Of course the fee matters. There's such a thing as a transfer budget, of which 80m is a massive portion to spend on a player that quite frankly isn't even looking worth 40m. Spending such a large sum and not getting a return on investment in terms of performance is a huge issue - I don't see how you can argue otherwise.

Yes and no. It matters mostly to smaller clubs who don't have a lot of money to spend. We spend hundreds of millions every summer. Our issue is that we have been buying average players for years, the problem isn't the fee itself. This is why we need a DoF.
 
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