Red Dreams
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Not with the season he's had, hell no.
We are not Chelsea. He is our best bet. In fact the only bet unless we include Giggs.
Not with the season he's had, hell no.
I highly doubt he's our best bet, he gives you one or two good seasons and then goes to shit. And his football is as bad as what is being played now.We are not Chelsea. He is our best bet. In fact the only bet unless we include Giggs.
I highly doubt he's our best bet, he gives you one or two good seasons and then goes to shit. And his football is as bad as what is being played now.
The bulk of the complaints directed at Van Gaal this season have been about the style of football. It wasn't long ago we went top of the league temporarily with a last minute winner against Watford, but it was barely mentioned because of the manner in which it was achieved. So you could say league position has almost become a secondary consideration amongst fans. If people think Mourinho will bring a return to the exciting brand of attacking Manchester United football they are very much mistaken - very little will change in terms of style. It's still a resounding no for me.
The board should be doing absolutely everything possible to entice Pep.
This isn't being discussed enough. I have heard/read it in a couple places that this might prevent us, or anyone in England for that matter, from hiring Mourinho for a while.
Would love to get some clarity on it.
Manchester United will turn to Ryan Giggs rather than Jose Mourinho if Louis van Gaal is sacked, says Graeme Souness
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
can you imagine!
Manchester United will turn to Ryan Giggs rather than Jose Mourinho if Louis van Gaal is sacked, says Graeme Souness
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
can you imagine!
I highly doubt he's our best bet, he gives you one or two good seasons and then goes to shit. And his football is as bad as what is being played now.
I understand Jose is not in a 'good place' right now, grumpier than ever and falling out with his staff and players prior to being dismissed from Chelsea. His father is very unwell, it could well be that he needs time away from football and a job at United could well be disastrous for both parties.
Regardless of what's good for the league or not, from a Manchester United perspective Guardiola would be a far better appointment than Mourinho, which is why the club should do everything to go after him. The proud attacking traditions of United are far more evident in Pep's teams than those of Jose over the last ten years.That's not true. Many, rather most in here, were using that as an excuse in his defense. Many started realising he needs to go, only after the last two weeks, when our Top 4 has been under threat, and no chance of a title push. If we were say 3 or 4 points of top with shit football, many would still be happy with LVG.
What if he doesnt want to join us, what then?. You say Mou, doesnt gurantee exciting football, what makes you think Pep does. Pep has managed two WC teams and had the advantage of WC players at his disposal. Both the teams he has managed, were successful before he took over and has been( in case of barca) and will be (in case of Bayern) successful. So, yes he is a brilliant manager, but he has not been tested with a slightly average team.
If we get Pep, its good, but it doesn't guarantee anything, the same with Jose. Most in here want Mourinho only because it looks to be like Pep is going to City, that doesnt mean its the end of the world. Its actually really god for the league, with Pep at city, Jose at united, Klopp at liverpool, and I am sure Chelsea will get someone really good next season, we can expect some top quality in the league.
In simple terms, playing with two wingers, overlapping full-backs and attacking midfielders. Another important aspect is trying to bring players through the youth system.Great post, very dignified and introspective.
I too have reservations about Mourinho representing us at an ambassadorial level, but then, Sir Alex was never one to mince his words either.
...but do you really believe the SAF style of football is dead? In what sense did you mean this?
Personally I think Mourinho is wrong for us because most of us support United not for glory, but for the attractive attacking football we used to see every week under Fergie. We were the ultimate entertainers; never afraid, always played to score goals.
I fear Mourinho is another LVG. We might grind out results - win the league perhaps, but we'll all be bored to tears.
This season at least he won't have choiceI'd have him on one condition, providing he would give our youth a chance.
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Not exactly a myth though is it? I think everyone accepts that he plays attacking football against small teams.exactly! so many stupid myths flying around
Cant see it myself. Mourinho apparently didn't take the money for his contract release and if that is the case Abramovich wouldn't be able to get him to sign a non competing clause. On my feelings about it, I don't think it will matter. Mourinho needs a long rest from football and going straight to United will probably not get him 100%. Also, he wont change too much about their team if we did face them, just have them sit back with minimal attacking threat, considering it is his first game.I do wonder how Chelsea fans would react if Mourinho sits on the bench for United against Chelsea in 8 days. @Gol123 @Spiersey @duffer ? Not sure if you have already answered that question a million times. If you did, sorry for asking again. Do you think it's possible to happen now or in the near future? Do you think Abramovich has forced a non-compete clause on Mourinho when he bought him out of the contract? Something like he's allowed to take a job outside of England but not in England for the next 18 months doesn't seem unreasonable depending on how much money Mourinho demanded as a pay-out. Is the contract termination even already finalised?
Not exactly a myth though is it? I think everyone accepts that he plays attacking football against small teams.
In that record breaking season Real Madrid scored 121 goals at an average of 3.1 goals per game. But against the other top 4 they scored 11 goals in 6 games(4 goals in one game against Malaga). Dropped points against all of them and all the big games were close apart from that 4-0 drubbing of Malaga.
Its not an insult and shouldn't be used as such. There is a difference b/w SAF and Mourinho. Big difference. There's no right or wrong way to play football. Just personal tastes.Sounds very familiar.
Sounds like United under Ferguson (especially from 2007 onwards). Don't get beat in the big games and annihilate the rest. Worked well for him. Don't see why it could be used as an insult.
It's almost as if you're inferring that the matches are harder vs the 'top 4'Not exactly a myth though is it? I think everyone accepts that he plays attacking football against small teams.
In that record breaking season Real Madrid scored 121 goals at an average of 3.1 goals per game. But against the other top 4 they scored 11 goals in 6 games(4 goals in one game against Malaga). Dropped points against all of them and all the big games were close apart from that 4-0 drubbing of Malaga.
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It is mate. But im also inferring that it is not an outrageous statement to say he is a defensive coach and shouldn't be taken as an insult. He knows how to win trophies.It's almost as if you're inferring that the matches are harder vs the 'top 4'
That's football!
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But the point is he's not entirely 'defensive' as everyone likes to believe?It is mate. But im also inferring that it is not an outrageous statement to say he is a defensive coach and shouldn't be taken as an insult. He knows how to win trophies.
Didn't know he managed Chelsea in 2009/10
Before or after 75,000 people slip into a boredom induced coma?Could you imagine Old Trafford if Jose is our manager at the next home game v Chelsea