Somehow I don't think it would be boring
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Somehow I don't think it would be boring
Its just about whether there's a non-compete clause in Mourinho's termination or not. If Castles hasn't mentioned any and says Mourinho wants United job now, its pretty safe to say that he'll be able to take over if we do decide to replace van Gaal with him. Castles has connections with Mendes and often posts stuff pro-Mourinho/Mendes.
His transfer stories about United are a different proposition entirely.
Mourinho knows how to piss pep off better then anyone. If city get Pep in as expected, then Mourinho is probably our best bet. Also like others have said, there is a chance him being humbled at chelsea, him having so much respect for Sir Alex, and wanting to prove himself could see him change his ways a bit. Maybe be more expansive or give more chances to young players at times. Not to the extent Van gaal has, as nobody does it that much, but probably on par with how much fergie did his last 5 or so years.
Also I would fear for Mata. There's no guarantee, but mata hasn't been much more then okay since he joined. You could say sure, he hasnt been in a functioning team too much, but I could see mata not willing to work with Mourinho, or not looking forward to it at least. Overall I think we would be able to win the title if he came in though, considering the only team that looks capable at the moment is Leicester.
Also I would fear for Mata. There's no guarantee, but mata hasn't been much more then okay since he joined. You could say sure, he hasnt been in a functioning team too much, but I could see mata not willing to work with Mourinho, or not looking forward to it at least. Overall I think we would be able to win the title if he came in though, considering the only team that looks capable at the moment is Leicester.
The sacking of Mourinho was one of the most bizarre things I have seen in football.
I am sure that Mourinho's Chelsea would have picked up and made a decent fist of this season, certainly no less than Hiddink's Chelsea.
Anyway, anybody who doesn't want Mourinho right now, to replace this bore, may well be guilty of process-itis. It is time we woke up from this malaise and gave ourselves a big shake. We are still within range of a good finish this season, but only because the form of the normal likely contenders has faultered. This won't last for long and we will likely be left on our arse.
The board need to give Mourinho some behavioural parameters and let him loose. He is a clever man and right now he has something to prove to the footballing world. Success with us this season would be the biggest highlight of his career so far... can you imagine the story?
Success however, to me, is only part of the deal. I just want to watch some football where desire, excitement and commitment is in abundance. Watching Watford this afternoon made me smile and made me wish we could play that well. I can't believe I am really saying this? There is enough talent in the team, it just needs a manager that can manufacture belief, for the fans as well as the players.
I am tired of waiting for the game when we finally "kick in". LVG needs to go and Mourinho ought to be given a chance to manage the club, I believe, he has always hankered after.
I am sure that Mourinho's Chelsea would have picked up and made a decent fist of this season, certainly no less than Hiddink's Chelsea.
Anyway, anybody who doesn't want Mourinho right now, to replace this bore, may well be guilty of process-itis. It is time we woke up from this malaise and gave ourselves a big shake. We are still within range of a good finish this season, but only because the form of the normal likely contenders has faultered. This won't last for long and we will likely be left on our arse.
The board need to give Mourinho some behavioural parameters and let him loose. He is a clever man and right now he has something to prove to the footballing world. Success with us this season would be the biggest highlight of his career so far... can you imagine the story?
Success however, to me, is only part of the deal. I just want to watch some football where desire, excitement and commitment is in abundance. Watching Watford this afternoon made me smile and made me wish we could play that well. I can't believe I am really saying this? There is enough talent in the team, it just needs a manager that can manufacture belief, for the fans as well as the players.
I am tired of waiting for the game when we finally "kick in". LVG needs to go and Mourinho ought to be given a chance to manage the club, I believe, he has always hankered after.
I've changed my mind on this. Before I was anti Mourinho coming in, not because I don't like the bloke, I actually do, but because I don't think he suits United for the reasons Sir Bobby has highlighted and because of the our youth heritage.
A few things have changed my mind though.
Seeing the Liverpool result today made me realise that even some of the best managers in the world find the Premiership hard to crack. LVG is just one and I wouldn't be surprised if Klopp struggles too. Both Simeone and even Guardiola could come to the Prem and have shockers. They really could, stranger things have happened. We need a successful international manager with Prem experience. Maureen is exactly that. Ancellotti has gone, so in a way he is the only candidate that ticks most boxes.
Is it also any real surprise therefore that clubs like Arsenal, Leicester, Palace, etc are doing well?
And yes Chelsea had a shocker this season with Mourinho. I just think though that Chelsea have that player power culture and have done for a long time now.
I also think there were signs that Mourinho was starting to bring youth players in at Chelsea this season. He isn't experienced at that, granted, but perhaps he is starting to address this weakness and surely this is something that United are in a good position to help him with.
A few things have changed my mind though.
Seeing the Liverpool result today made me realise that even some of the best managers in the world find the Premiership hard to crack. LVG is just one and I wouldn't be surprised if Klopp struggles too. Both Simeone and even Guardiola could come to the Prem and have shockers. They really could, stranger things have happened. We need a successful international manager with Prem experience. Maureen is exactly that. Ancellotti has gone, so in a way he is the only candidate that ticks most boxes.
Is it also any real surprise therefore that clubs like Arsenal, Leicester, Palace, etc are doing well?
And yes Chelsea had a shocker this season with Mourinho. I just think though that Chelsea have that player power culture and have done for a long time now.
I also think there were signs that Mourinho was starting to bring youth players in at Chelsea this season. He isn't experienced at that, granted, but perhaps he is starting to address this weakness and surely this is something that United are in a good position to help him with.
At the moment I'm keeping my vote as a no in the poll but I am slowly starting to warm to the idea of him taking over.
Mourinho would be our best choice, possibly only choice going by the current rumour mill. He'd sign a centre back so we wouldn't feck about with Blind and sick note Jones anymore. He'd also ditch Mata so we no longer have to see the tortoise stinking out the place.
That and he's the one man who knows how to get to Pep.
That and he's the one man who knows how to get to Pep.
I'd welcome him for sure. Firstly he is a winner, though he might get on the wrong side of many people he will show passion and spirit we'll never see from LVG. Secondly he is the best available what with Carlo going to Munich and Pep seemingly going to City, he will give us a fighting chance.
It of course does come with risks, Jose hasn't been known to build a legacy and often leaves with bad blood. That said I honestly believe what with his admiration for us and SAF, getting this job might just calm him down a little. Another obvious reason against would be his poor record when it comes to promoting youth. I'd hope that if he got the job there would be some sort agreement between him and the board that he at least includes youth players here and there to keep our traditions alive.
It of course does come with risks, Jose hasn't been known to build a legacy and often leaves with bad blood. That said I honestly believe what with his admiration for us and SAF, getting this job might just calm him down a little. Another obvious reason against would be his poor record when it comes to promoting youth. I'd hope that if he got the job there would be some sort agreement between him and the board that he at least includes youth players here and there to keep our traditions alive.
If Pep ends up at City who else out there available and willing to manage Utd? The only top manager is Mou. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Proven winner, managed to show decent results against Pep's Barca. Drop points against Stoke and we will have him as a X-mas gift from Santa Woody.
Where? Not including the players they bought the past couple of seasons
How would one even legislate that? You wouldn't want some sort of situation where he feels like he has to play Borthwick-Jackson or something. That would feel far too much like the board interfering with the manager's job.
I was one of the people that voted 'no' in this poll and although I'm coming around to the though of having him here, people need to realise the problems that we have with LVG will likely be the same problems we'd have with Mourinho. LVG has been accused of having a negative attitude and won't change his ways. This exact statement could be applied to Mourinho. Add to that the boring as hell football he's played across numerous clubs as well as his track record of not bleeding any youngsters, I don't see him being a good fit here at all. I don't believe LVG is the answer and for all the positives that Mourinho could bring, he'd also bring a hell of a lot of negatives as well.
Of course not, the hope would be someone at the club would be keeping Jose up to date with the progress of the youth players (which might already happen but he has chosen to ignore it) and when they are ready to be put in the side.
I think at this stage the club needs to know exactly what they're getting with the new manager.
Mourinho is the biggest sure thing in English football management.
You know he'll mostly target players in their prime (25+) and he'll build a squad with two clear players for each position. A strong, athletic team.
And he's won a title at every club he's been at.
He should be able to get back on track and get his team pretty much unbeatable at home.
He'd actually probably target Caf' favourite - John Stones, which kind of goes against the first point.
Potentially at United he could build one of the best squads of his career. He could certainly build a squad significantly better than his recent Chelsea one, which, frankly, wasn't all that.
Mourinho is the biggest sure thing in English football management.
You know he'll mostly target players in their prime (25+) and he'll build a squad with two clear players for each position. A strong, athletic team.
And he's won a title at every club he's been at.
He should be able to get back on track and get his team pretty much unbeatable at home.
He'd actually probably target Caf' favourite - John Stones, which kind of goes against the first point.
Potentially at United he could build one of the best squads of his career. He could certainly build a squad significantly better than his recent Chelsea one, which, frankly, wasn't all that.
I'm really close to changing my vote from no to yes.
He wanted Stones and Greizmann in the Summer iirc.
If he brought those two to United, this place would crash
When Pep is at City, Simeone at Chelsea and with Klopp already being with Liverpool people will be begging for Mourinho when he's winning titles for another club and we are left struggling with Ryan Giggs in charge.
For me its Mourinho or bust, even if its just for 2-3 years we need someone in to stop the rot.
For me its Mourinho or bust, even if its just for 2-3 years we need someone in to stop the rot.
I've always been a Mourinho fan and wanted him to take over from SAF. He would have been a steady hand with a track record of success, perfect for us at the time.
I can put up with most of his antics but the Eva situation has soured things. That really was out of order. It's the only thing that makes me nervous about his appointment
I can put up with most of his antics but the Eva situation has soured things. That really was out of order. It's the only thing that makes me nervous about his appointment
It would.He wanted Stones and Greizmann in the Summer iirc.
If he brought those two to United, this place would crash
I could see those two happening quite easily, if he became manager.
He'd have no issues with selling players, because I think he, quite literally, wants two players per position.
So for example, if he wanted a new midfielder, he'd sell one of Carrick, Herrera etc.
You'd imagine Martial wouldn't fulfil the requirements for 9, so whether he stuck with Rooney or not would be interesting. Cavani sort of fits the bill for Mourinho.
But potentially a very good squad could be made. I'd suspect that the club wouldn't be as willing as Chelsea to sell off newly-signed youngsters like Memphis, so he may be forced to work them into his plans and work on improving them.
We need him right now, simple as.
Would be a problem with our injury problems under the last three managers.It would.
I could see those two happening quite easily, if he became manager.
He'd have no issues with selling players, because I think he, quite literally, wants two players per position.
So for example, if he wanted a new midfielder, he'd sell one of Carrick, Herrera etc.
You'd imagine Martial wouldn't fulfil the requirements for 9, so whether he stuck with Rooney or not would be interesting. Cavani sort of fits the bill for Mourinho.
But potentially a very good squad could be made. I'd suspect that the club wouldn't be as willing as Chelsea to sell off newly-signed youngsters like Memphis, so he may be forced to work them into his plans and work on improving them.
The more I think about it, the more this just has to happen.
We can't leave ourselves in a position where all our domestic rivals have top managers (Pep,Klopp,Wenger) while we're stuck with a second rate option.
Yes, it might be a short term solution, but thats football thesedays. We can't put ourselves in a position where we fall even further behind our rivals.
Right now, Jose is the only top class, proven, manager that is available.
We can't leave ourselves in a position where all our domestic rivals have top managers (Pep,Klopp,Wenger) while we're stuck with a second rate option.
Yes, it might be a short term solution, but thats football thesedays. We can't put ourselves in a position where we fall even further behind our rivals.
Right now, Jose is the only top class, proven, manager that is available.
The issue is if it's not Jose, then who? Does anyone truly believe Pep is coming, any more than Neymar? The managerial cards are already being shuffled and the packs becoming very thin.
Potentially, yeah.
I'm going to have a random guess at the sort of dealings Mourinho would make. *Not to be taken too seriously.*
Blind - good ball-player, but not a specialist in any role and not athletic.
Carrick - I think it's close to his time to move on anyway.
Young - Fits the Mourinho mould, but Rojo/Shaw work for left back; Valencia/Darmian for right back.
Fellaini - Surely mourinho just wouldn't want him.
Mata? Not 100% sure. He might keep him for a little while.
Januzaj - I just think he might go, and I don't see Mourinho loving him.
Mane: His attempt at a Willian-like energetic player.
Stones: Partners Smalling and was a target at Chelsea.
Griezmann: Wide forward. Makes sense.
Now, we know he likes Rooney, and I can imagine them getting on well. Would he be able to drop him to the Remy-role? If so, Higuain maybe?
One more midfielder - a physical guy to make four alongside Herrera, Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin.
Maybe some wildcard centre back like Winston Reid too, as back up. Or some older guy from somewhere.
Don't shoot me.
In a league with Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp and Wenger as managers I feel a little underwhelmed by the thought of Giggs giving it a shot.
2 days ago Ancelotti still seemed up for grabs, now we can only hope that two are still possible. There's a rather large chance that Guardiola won't pick us. Might leave only one possible target.
I can imagine much worse scenarios than having Mourinho as our only big name target. If next season starts and we still have LvG or Giggs in charge I'd seriously question if we have the same goals as our owners.
2 days ago Ancelotti still seemed up for grabs, now we can only hope that two are still possible. There's a rather large chance that Guardiola won't pick us. Might leave only one possible target.
I can imagine much worse scenarios than having Mourinho as our only big name target. If next season starts and we still have LvG or Giggs in charge I'd seriously question if we have the same goals as our owners.
We've made such a mess of the managerial situation that Mourinho has basically become the equivalent of eat a shit sandwich or starve.
I think he'd take both Smalling & Jones up another level. Maybe he can work some of his fitness magic on Jones too.
We aren't in a position of strength to be turning our noses down to Jose.
Let me ask anyone who is against his immediate appointment, Come next season, should pep be at City, klopp at pool, Simeone at chelsea, Carlo at Bayern and Giggs at united, How are you going to feel then?
Let me ask anyone who is against his immediate appointment, Come next season, should pep be at City, klopp at pool, Simeone at chelsea, Carlo at Bayern and Giggs at united, How are you going to feel then?
I'm not a top.red but switching Mourinho and Giggs around does nothing to alter me feeling sick, the prospect of starting next season with either of them is depressing.
I couldn't see Mourinho having Jones as a starter, to be honest. At best he's a back up. I think Stones would be a major target.
Should be a "No, but Yes" option. Not my preferred candidate, but if we can't get someone like Pep or Simeone, then he's the only candidate imo.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...ho-wants-man-united-job-talks-underway-to-fin
Portuguese newspaper DN have covered the situation and reports from the English media. At the end of their article they say that, according to their own information, Mourinho is keen on getting the Manchester United job.
It's also claimed that contact has already been made and some kind of talks have taken place but there is 'still some way to go'.
Portuguese newspaper DN have covered the situation and reports from the English media. At the end of their article they say that, according to their own information, Mourinho is keen on getting the Manchester United job.
It's also claimed that contact has already been made and some kind of talks have taken place but there is 'still some way to go'.
RLC of course, a whopping 209 minutes against world giants such as Walsall and Tel Aviv.
My gut feeling is that Neymar is more likely to join us next season than Pep.
From what I understand Pep already has some form of agreement with MCFC.
Of course, stranger things have happened, so you never know.
ManUtdReport already started their bullshit.
They'll see it as job done, you've given them publicity
It's written in the stars, Mourinho to manage United against Chelsea and Falcao to pop up with a last minute winner for them.
Feck sake, it's like Transfer window season.