peterstorey
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I'll happily take money on this one. Niall open your coffers.What you mean is you hope it's bollocks.
I'll happily take money on this one. Niall open your coffers.What you mean is you hope it's bollocks.
I've no idea but you can't dismiss it outright.Do you actually think it's true?
To be honest, if Downing came on a free and agreed to pay his own wages, I'd still be unhappy with the signing.
Is there any transfer link that in your world you can't dismiss outright? Arsenal to sign Craig Thomson following his release from Hearts? Would you dismiss that one?I've no idea but you can't dismiss it outright.
Fair enough. Do you think there will be any change of style if Arsenal lose both Fabregas and Nasri?Not really since it gives you an early clue to the stupidity of the writer. I can't be bothered to slag the rest of it when it starts off on such a clueless premise.
It can't be dismissed outright with statements like 'It's complete bollox'.Is there any transfer link that in your world you can't dismiss outright? Arsenal to sign Craig Thomson following his release from Hearts? Would you dismiss that one?
Yes, but he's been the manager for nigh-on a decade and a half, and he's never signed anyone as average as Downing, which would imply that he's not going to sign him.It can't be dismissed outright with statements like 'It's complete bollox'.
You've no idea what Wenger's transfer plans are anymore than the rest of us.
Nope, we'll still play 4231 with Ramsey/Wilshere in the hole and Gervinho/Walcott/Arshavin wide.Fair enough. Do you think there will be any change of style if Arsenal lose both Fabregas and Nasri?
You sure about that?Yes, but he's been the manager for nigh-on a decade and a half, and he's never signed anyone as average as Downing, which would imply that he's not going to sign him.
It's my opinion based on a wealth of historical source material. Not every post I make is a fact - indeed, very few are, simply because they'd be pretty dull if they were.
Exhibit A your honour: Francis Jeffers.Yes, but he's been the manager for nigh-on a decade and a half, and he's never signed anyone as average as Downing, which would imply that he's not going to sign him.
It's my opinion based on a wealth of historical source material. Not every post I make is a fact - indeed, very few are, simply because they'd be pretty dull if they were.
That's terribly harsh.Jeffers hadn't proven himself as being utterly average before he joined though - unlike Downing, who's never shown a grain of potential.
wonderful assessmentJeffers hadn't proven himself as being utterly average before he joined though - unlike Downing, who's never shown a grain of potential.
You don't half come out with some wondefully grand retarded statements at times Al.he's never signed anyone as average as Downing, .
Big step up for the first two and Arshavins heart doesn't seem to be in it, you will need more than that imo.Nope, we'll still play 4231 with Ramsey/Wilshere in the hole and Gervinho/Walcott/Arshavin wide.
He was fecked by being absolute shit.Jeffers showed much more than Downing ever has and he was fecked by injuries. He was sensational for Everton for a season, the new Robbie Fowler.
I'll rephrase.You don't half come out with some wondefully grand retarded statements at times Al.
Are you seriously claiming that Wenger has never signed any player worse or on a par with Downing in his time as Arsenal manager? Seriously?
Never?He's never signed an established player whose level is similar to Downing's.
Yes, we show snobbery when you've been taking the piss out of Barton and Doyle all week. The hypocrisy is astounding.It's easy to display snobbery when it comes to English players like Stuart Downing.
The average Arsenal fan is probably completely unaware that he picked up the Players' Player of the Season and supporters' Player of the Season awards in a team that struggled for most of the season.
StepanovsYou don't half come out with some wondefully grand retarded statements at times Al.
Are you seriously claiming that Wenger has never signed any player worse or on a par with Downing in his time as Arsenal manager? Seriously?
Yes, because including Bischoff as an established player is fair enough, right?Stepanovs
Diawara
Boa Morte
Luzhny
Bischoff
and some bloke from Lithuania whose name I can't begin to spell
Rosicky isn't any better. He was about the same age as Downing when you bought him.I'll rephrase.
He has signed players worse than Downing - but these were players whose potential he over-estimated. He's never signed an established player whose level is similar to Downing's.
And they cost about £3M total (most of it the Elk who wasn't bad at all) not 20 feckin' million.Stepanovs
Diawara
Boa Morte
Luzhny
Bischoff
and some bloke from Lithuania whose name I can't begin to spell
Wenger's probably the least likely manager in the Premiership to go down the traditional flat 4-4-2, old-fashioned English winger route.Cesc Fábregas' departure should be seen as an opportunity not a curse | Football | The Guardian
Good article with possible Downing explanation.
Rosicky isn't any better. He was about the same age as Downing when you bought him.
Let's not go overboard here, Downing isn't complete crap. Sure, he's a long way from top 4 quality, but he's not a complete donkey like Jeffers.
He's never signed an established player whose level is similar to Downing's.
Rosicky is miles better than Downing. It's like saying Hargreaves is no better than Djemba-Djemba.Rosicky isn't any better. He was about the same age as Downing when you bought him..
Not saying anything;just pointing out that there have been worse and I could add Pennant to the list.Yes, because including Bischoff as an established player is fair enough, right?
Have you watched 'sicky recently?!Rosicky is miles better than Downing. It's like saying Hargreaves is no better than Djemba-Djemba.
No, you can't add Pennant to the list. You've missed the point entirely. We've brought up some average young players, but extraordinarily rarely purchased an ESTABLISHED player akin to Downing.Not saying anything;just pointing out that there have been worse and I could add Pennant to the list.
I did agree with Downing being a poor player but Wenger has bought quite a few and I hope he continues to do so
More than Torres has done at Chelsea.Can someone tell me what Downing has actually done at Villa?
Rosicky was a great talent,just seemed a bit frail for the PL both physically and mentally,but he was very skillfulRosicky is miles better than Downing. It's like saying Hargreaves is no better than Djemba-Djemba.
I don't see it in Rosicky. He's pretty poor most of the time (and not just after his return from injury). If he played for a mid-table side you'd say he was crap like Downing.Rosicky is miles better than Downing. It's like saying Hargreaves is no better than Djemba-Djemba.
Seriously, what is it about Arsenal fans and these sweeping statements?Rosicky is miles better than Downing. It's like saying Hargreaves is no better than Djemba-Djemba.