Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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crossy1686 said:
If Zlatan is available on a free and could come in as backup (he would never go for that but..), he could do a pretty decent job for a season or two. Would be worth a punt.
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Why would he be backup when he is a better player than Rooney?
 
If we signing Zlatan to sit him on the bench then he'd be gone half way through the season. I doubt he'd come here to play second fiddle to Rooney.
 
DarkXaero said:
Why would he be backup when he is a better player than Rooney?
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At the age of 34 he is definitely not an all round better player than Rooney, especially considering he's never played in the PL. To rely on a 34 year old Zlatan to score us enough goals in all competitions to be competitive is a little desperate.
 
crossy1686 said:
At the age of 34 he is definitely not an all round better player than Rooney, especially considering he's never played in the PL. To rely on a 34 year old Zlatan to score us enough goals in all competitions to be competitive is a little desperate.
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He most definitely is.
 
crossy1686 said:
At the age of 34 he is definitely not an all round better player than Rooney, especially considering he's never played in the PL. To rely on a 34 year old Zlatan to score us enough goals in all competitions to be competitive is a little desperate.
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Speaking common sense on this topic doesn't go down well in here mate, great player though he is some seem to think Ibrahimovic has a portrait of himself in his attic which ages while he doesn't.
 
crossy1686 said:
At the age of 34 he is definitely not an all round better player than Rooney, especially considering he's never played in the PL. To rely on a 34 year old Zlatan to score us enough goals in all competitions to be competitive is a little desperate.
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Oh he still is.
 
Ballache said:
Oh he still is.
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This doesn't surprise me, coming from a Swede. I like yourself have seen enough of Zlatan over the years to know that although they show every single goal he scores for PSG on TV4 every morning, doesn't mean he could actually do it for United in the PL.
B20 said:
He most definitely is.
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Unfortunately he's not. He's good, I'm not denying it but his work ethic leaves much to be desired and he is more trouble than he's worth. He plays in France, lets not forget this. He wasn't that impressive for PSG in the Champions League against the better opposition.
stevoc said:
Speaking common sense on this topic doesn't go down well in here mate, great player though he is some seem to think Ibrahimovic has a portrait of himself in his attic which ages while he doesn't.
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It appears that way. It seems the old Noel Gallagher school of excellence seems to work on most people. For those that don't know what I'm referring to, Noel Gallagher multiple times referred to Oasis as being the biggest band in the world. A journalist asked him if that was necessarily true seeing as Oasis hadn't had a best selling album or single for well over 5 years. He responded with "Well, there are over 6 billion people in the world. If you tell them all you're the best at least half of them will believe you".
 
He might not be a better all round player than Rooney, but not many are... What matters most is that he is indisputably a better striker than Rooney. However he probably won't work well as a striker in LVG's system
 
You're making sound as if it's absurd to suggest that Zlatan is better than Rooney and in truth it isn't. You can have your opinion on the matter and we can have ours but there's no need to make it sound as if I'm purely saying it because I'm Swedish when it would actually be a proper debate among people that watch football.
@crossy1686
 
Ballache said:
You're making sound as if it's absurd to suggest that Zlatan is better than Rooney and in truth it isn't. You can have your opinion on the matter and we can have ours but there's no need to make it sound as if I'm purely saying it because I'm Swedish when it would actually be a proper debate among people that watch football.
@crossy1686
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If you offered me Zlatan or Rooney to be our #9 next season, it'd be Zlatan all day long.
 
Bwuk said:
If you offered me Zlatan or Rooney to be our #9 next season, it'd be Zlatan all day long.
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He's a better striker, you just feel at times he's gonna do something special and win you the match. I haven't had that feeling from Wayne in a long long time.
 
Ballache said:
He's a better striker, you just feel at times he's gonna do something special and win you the match. I haven't had that feeling from Wayne in a long long time.
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Agreed. Rooney hasn't been a reliable source of goals for a good few seasons now. Zlatan bangs them in every week.
 
There's zero doubt about who the better forward is out of Zlatan and Rooney at the moment. And I'd say it's unlikely to change even after 2-3 years as I don't see Rooney being very good at 32-33 or Zlatan being poor at 36.
 
There is nothing Rooney does better than Zlatan other than track back and look like an ogre. It's no contest at all.
 
Zlatan started to look his age last season and PSG are probably a better team without him now. It's a shame we never got to see him in the Premier League.
 
Even if he's better than Rooney I'm not really impressed by scoring a lot of goals for a stacked team in a shit league tbh. I saw more of him before he went to the French league and never considered him to be one of the absolute best strikers around. I'm talking what is Suarez, Aguero level now and Drogba, Etoo level then - and I suppose even Henry and Shevchenko even that. So its a testament to his longevity that he's been at such a high level so long, I've just never thought of him as one of the absolute best at any one given time. And tbh it seems to me that barely anyone did until he went to PSG... Go figure.

And there IS truth behind the "goes missing in big games" stuff, exaggerated or not.
 
soap said:
And there IS truth behind the "goes missing in big games" stuff, exaggerated or not.
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Obviously there's some truth in it, hence you posted this post. If he'd showed up to some of the bigger occasions no one would doubt him instead he has a tendency to disappear when it matters the most.
 
RooneyLegend said:
Obviously there's some truth in it, hence you posted this post. If he'd showed up to some of the bigger occasions no one would doubt him instead he has a tendency to disappear when it matters the most.
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I see plenty of people go "hurr durr typical English fan" at the suggestion of it, is all.
 
Zlatan at his prime, better than Aguerro will ever dream of being.

Oh and by the way, he was class last night. Those that think Rooney is better, are seriously overrating Wayne.
 
soap said:
Even if he's better than Rooney I'm not really impressed by scoring a lot of goals for a stacked team in a shit league tbh. I saw more of him before he went to the French league and never considered him to be one of the absolute best strikers around. I'm talking what is Suarez, Aguero level now and Drogba, Etoo level then - and I suppose even Henry and Shevchenko even that. So its a testament to his longevity that he's been at such a high level so long, I've just never thought of him as one of the absolute best at any one given time. And tbh it seems to me that barely anyone did until he went to PSG... Go figure.

And there IS truth behind the "goes missing in big games" stuff, exaggerated or not.
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Even Henry? Strange choice of words he was better than any player you mentioned? Plus Schevchenko was the top striker in the world for numerous years something Augero never has been for more than a month or two.
 
soap said:
I see plenty of people go "hurr durr typical English fan" at the suggestion of it, is all.
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I think it took a great performance vs arsenal for milan and a great performance vs England national team for people to suddenly change what's always been true about him. He's the sort of player that can have the most sterile of performances in the big matches. Its something linked with his playing style imo. He's always been one of my favourite players around(due to a goal he scored at Ajax) but even I had to admit and stop making excuses for him as time went by.
 
Only in caf will people think that Rooney is better than Zlatan. Only in caf....
 
RooneyLegend said:
Surely you can't be serious?
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Zlatan is an absolute menace. Aguero needs a good team around him. Zlatan is like Suarez in that he can harry defences on his own and carry teams. Aguero will never do that but his end product is better than both.
 
11101 said:
Zlatan is an absolute menace. Aguero needs a good team around him. Zlatan is like Suarez in that he can harry defences on his own and carry teams. Aguero will never do that but his end product is better than both.
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Why does aguero need a good team around him? Zlatan is nothing like suarez.
 
United22 said:
He might not be a better all round player than Rooney, but not many are... What matters most is that he is indisputably a better striker than Rooney. However he probably won't work well as a striker in LVG's system
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Ballache said:
He's a better striker, you just feel at times he's gonna do something special and win you the match. I haven't had that feeling from Wayne in a long long time.
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Already knew he was a better striker than Wayne. No shame in that. Last night proved he was a better midfielder too.
 
RooneyLegend said:
Why does aguero need a good team around him? Zlatan is nothing like suarez.
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Zlatan is exactly like Suarez in that theyre unpredictable and can take entire defences out of the game in an instant, and they both get involved in the game much more. Aguero is not that kind of player, he is a finisher getting on the end of things.

It speaks to how good Zlatan actually is that he matches Aguero's finishing AND Suarez's chance creation and involvement.
 
A peak Zlatan is definitely better than Aguero. And quite possibly also better than Aguero ever will be.
 
11101 said:
Zlatan is exactly like Suarez in that theyre unpredictable and can take entire defences out of the game in an instant, and they both get involved in the game much more. Aguero is not that kind of player, he is a finisher getting on the end of things.

It speaks to how good Zlatan actually is that he matches Aguero's finishing AND Suarez's chance creation and involvement.
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Zlatan is nothing like suarez. Suarez is relentless and plays with lots of passion. Even when he has a poor game its never been due to a lack off effort while Zlatan on the other hand has games that seemingly pass him by.

Saying Aguero is a finisher getting on the end of things is not truthful. We've seen him make things happen when they shouldn't be happen. He's done it a few times to our team as well.
 
Bojan11 said:
If we signing Zlatan to sit him on the bench then he'd be gone half way through the season. I doubt he'd come here to play second fiddle to Rooney.
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if he was prepared to play second fiddle I suspect we may have seen him link up with Jose at Chelsea as back up to Costa... Given the very good relationship Zlatan and Jose seem to have and the fact that falcao has gone there (so high wages are certainly not an issue) makes me think he does not want to sit on the bench.

I dread to think how good he could make Arsenal though if he went there!
 
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