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.Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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Will never happen but would be fecking brilliant if it did!
I'd love Ibra here. He would make us so exciting to watch plus he would score a fair few memorable or acrobatic goals.
Please no, he is 34 years old. We need players who have a good few years to offer.
Not happening. LVG is not benching Rooney or Zlatan.
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This. No fecking way.
This. 30 is one thing, but 34? If this was some ex-great on the cheap happy to play back-up a la Larsson, or even Owen, then fair enough. But Zlatan, at this point is not that.
He has worked under coaches who are very disciplined (Capello) and have huge egos (Mourinho) in the past and has thrived under them. I believe he can work well with LVG, he has a great entertaining personality and I think the premiership needs him. After reading his autobiography I think the only coach he would never work under again is Pep.
If the transfer fee was reasonable then I would love to see him lining out for us
If the transfer fee was reasonable then I would love to see him lining out for us
At the rumoured fee of 4 million, it is a no brainer really. Just have to wonder how United will play and try to accommodate all the big names in the playing squad? Let alone the first 11. Someone has to go I guess. Especially if Pedro is coming as well. Is the formation in the pre season games the sign of things to come? Playing some sort of traditional 442 where Zlatan and Rooney up front and Memphis/Mata/Pedro/Young on the wings? Rooney always thrives on playing the no 10 role and given free role to create and help the midfield during defending. Plus having versatile and dynamic forwards like Pedro and Memphis, I think that might work.
If he can become that catalyst for United to become champion again, I don't see why not? Wilson is still too raw and I don't think with Zlatan coming in would hinder his progress. If anything Wilson could learn a thing or two about control instead of relying too much on his pace. Must be something about legendary Swedish striker and United. Anyone has any idea the next big thing coming from Sweden? Haven't heard any new big talent coming from Sweden lately whereas they have been the market to go for players once upon a time.
If he can become that catalyst for United to become champion again, I don't see why not? Wilson is still too raw and I don't think with Zlatan coming in would hinder his progress. If anything Wilson could learn a thing or two about control instead of relying too much on his pace. Must be something about legendary Swedish striker and United. Anyone has any idea the next big thing coming from Sweden? Haven't heard any new big talent coming from Sweden lately whereas they have been the market to go for players once upon a time.
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Of course it's off. We'd be ignoring all possible common sense alarm bells, if we wanted a signing that made sense we'd be after Lacazette. But tell me reading that didn't make your trousers wet.
This is hilarious so many seem to think Rooney is past it at 29, but yet lots of people saying Zlatan would be a brilliant signing at 34
He's older than RVP FFS
He's older than RVP FFS
Nope........Ya need Rooney as the lone striker with two wide men imo.
There's no way he'd sit on the bench so this is a non starter before you add in all the other issues.
Is no one else surprised by how openly he discussed if he could play here? Usually, players aren't drawn into conversations like these, and would just say "I'm happy at my club etc.". Granted it's Zlatan and he always has something to say, but it's still surprising to me.
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No thanks.
His openness is worrying, but maybe he 's just desperate to leave. He's not what we need right now IMO. Experience is one thing but he's too far gone
His openness is worrying, but maybe he 's just desperate to leave. He's not what we need right now IMO. Experience is one thing but he's too far gone
Exactly, Zlatan is Zlatan. He says what's on his mind. He doesn't care about anything. There is a video on Youtube where he doesn't even know how many siblings he has.
He's a very good player still. And this 30+ talk is IMO only relevant when compared with the transfer fee. He will have at least one more good season I think.
Link that video please because I've never heard that and I doubt it's true
He wants to play here, it's obvious.
At this stage in his career I'd imagine he'd be happy to play for any the top 4 in England. If he was in his 20s I could see LVG perhaps mulling it over but why now especially when he just got rid of a younger RVP who he had a fantastic history with? No chance of this happening and rightly so let's move on!
Can't get The sharing to work on my phone. Do a Youtube search on "Zlatan ung". The video is 43 secs and is titled "100 Höjdare Zlatan intervju" or something. Starts at 28 secs.
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This is hilarious so many seem to think Rooney is past it at 29, but yet lots of people saying Zlatan would be a brilliant signing at 34
He's older than RVP FFS
Let's not forget the wages he is on. Did we not learn anything from the Falcao debacle last season.
Way too old.
I don't want him. Maybe 3-4 years ago but definitely not now.
I don't want him. Maybe 3-4 years ago but definitely not now.
Would love him to join us, after what he done to Terry with his elbow, he would be an instant legend. On a more serious note I would not want him due to the self importance he bestows on himself. There would be arguments aplenty between Ibra and LVG which would be detrimental to the team. Fantastic player none the less but his arrogance, while sometimes a good thing in small doses, in a United team would be a hindrance.
This is hilarious so many seem to think Rooney is past it at 29, but yet lots of people saying Zlatan would be a brilliant signing at 34
He's older than RVP FFS
Age is nothing but a number. Rooney IS past it at 29 (but this is specific to him), Zlatan has been scoring 30+ goals per season from the age of 30-33... Laugh all you want, but the truth is that if he came here, he would probably be our best outfield player at the age of 33.
Ibrahimovic was a great player but sorry no he wouldn't be our best player at almost 34 years old, come on be serious.
Age catches up with everyone, but with zlatan the french league is masking that he went from averaging 20-25 goals a year in his prime to 35-40 in france in his early thirties. So it's clear that playing in a weak league in by far the strongest team has flattered him.
He wouldn't be getting anywhere close to those numbers in england, nor would he be playing 40-50 games a season in england at this age either. For the wages he would want on probably a 2 year contract and the off the field baggage he would bring it would be the worst piece of business in the clubs recent history.
Not even going to comment on the Rooney nonsense.
I agree with all that... Then I picture him smashing in loads of goals for Arsenal and turning them into genuine contenders and think fek it if he's available just buy him because it's zlatan
He first scored 30+ in Milan actually and he hasn't been too bad in Europe (he scored a shit load the season before last). He wouldn't get any higher than 25 in England but he would still be a decent striker.
Btw the Rooney nonsense isn't "nonsense" at all, the guy is in a noticeable decline and hasn't been the same player he was between 09-12 for the last 3 years. But of course we can pretend like its all fancy and pretend like he will score 25-30 goals "next year" like people have done for the last 2 years
So how do you explain that he won the assist league in the CL, then the year after went on to score 10 goals in 8 games - a ratio only very few players has ever reached in the European Cup/CL.
He also has the best goalscoring ratio for a national side that is absolutely terrible and who constantly face teams of similar or a lot better quality.
He scored 35 goals for Milan once actually, it was in fact the only season he scored more than 30 outside of france. So it is a fact he averaged 15-25 goals throughout his career in his twenties in top level leagues, a fact that cannot be disputed. Yet you think he will score 25 in England at 34? Wise up mate.
Still not commenting on the Rooney nonsense.
I never said he wasn't a great player, he was and i have no idea who he scored those 10 goals against, maybe you know?
Looking at his stats in europe though they are not terribly impressive, has only averaged between 1-5 goals in every other CL/EL campaign in his career. I don't see him improving on that average in his mid thirties, do you?
The only time he has scored below 15 was 9 years ago, so it is fair to say that on average, Ibra is a 20+ goal per season striker. On taking averages, even during his crappy years at Juve, he comes out at an average of 21 goals per season at the top leagues (this is excluding the French League), so it is not absurd to assume he would score 20 goals here in the Premier League. I said no more than 25, just in case, doesn't mean I think he will score 25.
Meanwhile the CAF favourite Rooney hasn't scored above 20 goals for the last three seasons and is approaching 30 this season, yet people want to pretend the guy isn't in decline/past it and I've seen people here saying he will score over 25 which is frankly a joke
You are saying he's reaching great goalscoring/assist stats(he equaled Messi's numbers in 13-14 both in terms of assists/goals with the same amount of games) because the french league is masking his inabilities. Yet he performs at every other stage there is in the CL/international football - which shows that you are exaggerating that point.
There are players who perform in weak leagues, but they'll be called out as they can't produce that form in the CL or for their national team.
He reached his peak in 11-12 after Allegri convinced him to change his game from trying to play beautiful to play just effective. So only stats since then are of any value to the discussion as he was clearly very overrated before that and the only one who thought he was great was himself.
Since then he's the third best goalscorer in European football, the best goalscorer in international football, he's won the assist league in the CL, he was the 2nd best top scorer in the CL the season after that ahead of Messi/Costa/Aguero.
I watch more or less every game PSG/Sweden plays and I actually think he has declined a bit since his first arrival to PSG. He reached his peak at 30 after that change in mentality and since then he's been brilliant season after season for PSG and Sweden.
His mobility these days is very questionable though, he says himself that he feels he had a great season but after reviewing his 2011-13 performances I think there was clear issues that he didn't have some year before.
His defensive work and off the ball movement has been affected and with his injury problems of the last season I think he definitely played worse than the years before. Not to say he can't have a great season if he stays injury free, but I wouldn't be surprised to see his mobility remain slightly hampered.
His mobility these days is very questionable though, he says himself that he feels he had a great season but after reviewing his 2011-13 performances I think there was clear issues that he didn't have some year before.
His defensive work and off the ball movement has been affected and with his injury problems of the last season I think he definitely played worse than the years before. Not to say he can't have a great season if he stays injury free, but I wouldn't be surprised to see his mobility remain slightly hampered.
Well i did say he averaged 15-25 goals a season which is pretty much true, if i was being pedantic i could say he actually averaged 14.5 goals per season over his career before PSG if you divide his goals by the number of seasons. But that would be unfair on him to include his early years at Malmo and Ajax.
Listen he was a great in his time but that time has gone, i would imagine he could score 10-15 for us. Mostly because at his age i don't see him playing more than 15-25 games in England, if we wanted a player to do that we could have kept RVP.
Also theres a thread to discuss Rooney, this isn't the place.
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