Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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Aguero is brilliant and always ha's been. He can dribble the ball and beat multiple opponents inside the box in the tightest space, has searing pace and has some of the best shooting in the world. He truly is a deadly striker and will score important goals on a regular basis against any level of opponent.

Zlatan is a different type of striker but no less deadly, he is more spectacular and has done some incredible things on the pitch and always gets the team goals but I just don't think he's as dangerous against the big side's as Aguero is mainly due to his lack of pace.

Both of them are class and Rooney is definitely not as good as either of them. Rooney does have great periods but his imprtant goals against big clubs are few and fair between, still a very good player but does not strike fear in defences like the other 2.
 
I think lots of defenders fear that Zlatan will embarrass them, and also know that he can pretty much score from nearly anywhere despite distance or angle. There is no 'safe' place to shepherd him to, which makes him lethal.
 
Tosicsleftpeg said:
Aguero is brilliant and always ha's been. He can dribble the ball and beat multiple opponents inside the box in the tightest space, has searing pace and has some of the best shooting in the world. He truly is a deadly striker and will score important goals on a regular basis against any level of opponent.

Zlatan is a different type of striker but no less deadly, he is more spectacular and has done some incredible things on the pitch and always gets the team goals but I just don't think he's as dangerous against the big side's as Aguero is mainly due to his lack of pace.

Both of them are class and Rooney is definitely not as good as either of them. Rooney does have great periods but his imprtant goals against big clubs are few and fair between, still a very good player but does not strike fear in defences like the other 2.
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Huh?

He has excellent scoring records against Arsenal, Chelsea, and City. And he has scored a lot of goals in the latter stages of the CL over the years including one in the final.
 
Lawman said:
Even Henry? Strange choice of words he was better than any player you mentioned? Plus Schevchenko was the top striker in the world for numerous years something Augero never has been for more than a month or two.
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I meant "even Henry" as in "even ifnyou go wanna go back that far", I agree, Henry is the best player I mentioned. Though Suarez is catching him!
 
B20 said:
A peak Zlatan is definitely better than Aguero. And quite possibly also better than Aguero ever will be.
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Peak Zlatan being when? I'd say its when he was at Milan and I'd definitely still pick Aguero
 
I know yesterday was a friendly, but its for all the people who have been underrating him. He is a genius player and is another level above Rooney
 
RooneyLegend said:
Zlatan is nothing like suarez. Suarez is relentless and plays with lots of passion. Even when he has a poor game its never been due to a lack off effort while Zlatan on the other hand has games that seemingly pass him by.

Saying Aguero is a finisher getting on the end of things is not truthful. We've seen him make things happen when they shouldn't be happen. He's done it a few times to our team as well.
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They play nothing like each other, but have the same effect on teams. Aguero doesnt.

Zlatan makes more passes, more assists and is far more involved in the average game than Aguero. Same with Suarez.

Id rather Aguero here because he is exactly what we need but Zlatan is a level above.
 
Man United twitter account posts Zlatan's pic only while congratulating PSG:



and then this:



It is so on!!
 
United22 said:
I know yesterday was a friendly, but its for all the people who have been underrating him. He is a genius player and is another level above Rooney
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I used to think he was over rated, not after last night. Sign him up, Fergie!
 
Never really been a fan of Zlatan's, he's a talent and there is no doubt. Dislike his arrogance, others I know love it.

However, he would be a vast improvement on Rooney I feel and would link up very well with him too no doubt. We could get a good 2 or 3 seasons from him I'd say, hell we only really need one and we could look again next summer for a younger forward.
 
I rate Ibra extremely highly and if we didnt have Rooney, this guy would be great. He'd be a great leader (something we are currently missing).
However, Rooney will ensure Ibra sits on the bench - which won't go down well.
Furthermore, Ibra will not adapt to LVG's philosophy.
And lets not forget that we just got rid of RVP and Rooney is almost 30. So we don't want another oldie.

However, imagine the goals. Those spectacular goals he will score. The impudence. The nonchalance. The ability to score from seemingly impossible angles/places. The ability to quite literally scare opposition defenders.

BTW: does anybody seriously think that Rooney is better than Ibra? Surely not.
 
sunama said:
I rate Ibra extremely highly and if we didnt have Rooney, this guy would be great. He'd be a great leader (something we are currently missing).
However, Rooney will ensure Ibra sits on the bench - which won't go down well.
Furthermore, Ibra will not adapt to LVG's philosophy.
And lets not forget that we just got rid of RVP and Rooney is almost 30. So we don't want another oldie.

However, imagine the goals. Those spectacular goals he will score. The impudence. The nonchalance. The ability to score from seemingly impossible angles/places. The ability to quite literally scare opposition defenders.

BTW: does anybody seriously think that Rooney is better than Ibra? Surely not.
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Imagine the many games where Ibra doesnt seem interested ala Berba and his workrate is off and his arms are flying as the balls are not straight into his feet....I'm a massive fan but right now at our stage in this teams development I just can't back a move for the guy.
 
Van Piorsing said:
He still got it just like Henrik Larsson in his time here.
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Except LVG would be building an aged looking spine at some expense and then leaving in afew seasons leaving us with another massive rebuild. His penchant for buying these experienced but aged players for me leans itself towards the club not being able to win the race for the better alternatives whose main aim is not a great final contract.....
 
RedorDead21 said:
Except LVG would be building an aged looking spine at some expense and then leaving in afew seasons leaving us with another massive rebuild. His penchant for buying these experienced but aged players for me leans itself towards the club not being able to win the race for the better alternatives whose main aim is not a great final contract.....
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Thats so not true. He has promoted a shit load of youngsters and players i thought had no future at the club. Players like Schweinsteiger helps the likes of Peirera or Goss while a player like Ibrahimovic might teach a thing or two to Januzaj about Ball Retention & Instinctive Finishing.

We have replaced older players unable to fit in to a well thought out system; with older players who do.

There is definitely progress there.
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
Thats so not true. He has promoted a shit load of youngsters and players i thought had no future at the club. Players like Schweinsteiger helps the likes of Peirera or Goss while a player like Ibrahimovic might teach a thing or two to Januzaj about Ball Retention & Instinctive Finishing.

We have replaced older players unable to fit in to a well thought out system; with older players who do.

There is definitely progress there.
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I firmly am not a believer in the thought process that a clevs with benefit from playing with Scholes or carrick.....So often its proved to make very little difference. A quality player trumps the opportunities afforded to a lesser player in my opinion when it comes to the supposed benefits of learning from a colleague. The players you mention have seen very little first team action. Injury allowed some young defenders in. The big hope Adnan has yet to progress under LVG or from learning from some great names so much so people mention Loan deals etc. In my mind Ibra would still be apart of building an aged looking team. I accept your argument and appreciate my view is not common!
 
Van Piorsing said:
He still got it just like Henrik Larsson in his time here.
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I'm not really sure Larsson ever did it here to any great degree. Had he come here with an average record then I don't think anyone would have been gushing over his impact during his time here. I'd hope that if we wanted to draw comparison with an ageing player who really impacted at United then you'd hope that if ZI did come then he'd leave with a a legacy similar to that of Teddy Sheringham.

There is little doubt that his ego would fit perfectly here and I always love us to have a player that others love to hate.
 
RedorDead21 said:
Except LVG would be building an aged looking spine at some expense and then leaving in afew seasons leaving us with another massive rebuild. His penchant for buying these experienced but aged players for me leans itself towards the club not being able to win the race for the better alternatives whose main aim is not a great final contract.....
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It's not like a club like us should put everything on hold while some youngsters grow up to eventually become good. Big clubs like us and other european giants WILL buy players that are even up to 33 years old to get the required quality - if only for a season. Most talented players in the age of 20-25 will just be shifted in a couple of years anyway.

People also seem to think you buy a player for life. Very few players are that good that you want to keep them for their entire career. Vida and Evra are two recent examples of players that went very well for us. DDG is an example of where you succeed and still won't get to keep your player (or at least it is looking that way) - Ronaldo is another.

Most of the times you will just need to replace a player regardless of his age within 3 years. So what's the difference if you buy a player like Ibra and let him go after 3 years compared to having to let a player go because he didn't succeed or just wants out? I know there's a money issue, but Ibra won't cost us that much + we're not in this game to earn money.
 
dogwithabone said:
I'm not really sure Larsson ever did it here to any great degree. Had he come here with an average record then I don't think anyone would have been gushing over his impact during his time here. I'd hope that if we wanted to draw comparison with an ageing player who really impacted at United then you'd hope that if ZI did come then he'd leave with a a legacy similar to that of Teddy Sheringham.

There is little doubt that his ego would fit perfectly here and I always love us to have a player that others love to hate.
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True but we may not have a bigger choice with the available strikers on the market this summer. If Ibra is set to join he'll probably stay maximum two seasons at best but at least he won't be afraid of the challenge.
 
dogwithabone said:
I'm not really sure Larsson ever did it here to any great degree. Had he come here with an average record then I don't think anyone would have been gushing over his impact during his time here. I'd hope that if we wanted to draw comparison with an ageing player who really impacted at United then you'd hope that if ZI did come then he'd leave with a a legacy similar to that of Teddy Sheringham.

There is little doubt that his ego would fit perfectly here and I always love us to have a player that others love to hate.
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Larsson was fine here I thought and he was definitely good for Barcelona during his short time there. Basically won them Champions League with his experience in the final.
 
Sarni said:
Larsson was fine here I thought and he was definitely good for Barcelona during his short time there. Basically won them Champions League with his experience in the final.
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You do realise he never claimed Larsson wasn't "fine", not that it wasn't awfully nice of you to point it out..
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
You do realise he never claimed Larsson wasn't "fine", not that it wasn't awfully nice of you to point it out..
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I was drawing comparison to how Larsson impacted Barcelona which would have been more relevant if we wanted to estimate possible impact of Zlatan transfer. Also Zlatan is a level above Larsson in his prime. Never argued with him either, just pointed out he was fine here and good there.
 
Van Piorsing said:
True but we may not have a bigger choice with the available strikers on the market this summer. If Ibra is set to join he'll probably stay maximum two seasons at best but at least he won't be afraid of the challenge.
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What I like about players with huge egos (eg. Ronaldo and Ibra) - these guys will never accept failure from themselves and will push themselves to the absolute limit.
Now, this is good for us, because we get a player working for our cause, giving absolutely everything.

The other issue is that I feel that we have no leaders in our team. We have a team of "nice guys".
Every successful team has at least one cnut and we dont seem to have any of these.
Ibra is also a very sore loser and I think we need someone like that in the team. Someone who can give refs absolute hell, if the game doesnt go our way. Fergie would previously put pressure on refs...at present nobody in our club is doing this.
 
sunama said:
What I like about players with huge egos (eg. Ronaldo and Ibra) - these guys will never accept failure from themselves and will push themselves to the absolute limit.
Now, this is good for us, because we get a player working for our cause, giving absolutely everything.

The other issue is that I feel that we have no leaders in our team. We have a team of "nice guys".
Every successful team has at least one cnut and we dont seem to have any of these.
Ibra is also a very sore loser and I think we need someone like that in the team. Someone who can give refs absolute hell, if the game doesnt go our way. Fergie would previously put pressure on refs...at present nobody in our club is doing this.
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Good point especially after selling Van Persie who was a mentor for younger players and had a character to rant about referees and even give Steven Gerrard some shit on the pitch.

We could definitely use a chaos stirrer. We had many of them in the past. Keane, Stam or even Van Nistelrooy were uneasy players to manage but they were priceless in creating fighting spirit in the team.
 
Lash said:
Really can't see Wenger paying a 33 yo the amount he would want and the fee, regardless how good he would be. Too short term for him and makes far too much sense
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Wenger and Zlatan aren't best of friends either. I do think he's exactly what Arsenal need, though.
 
Wasn't in the squad for PSG tonight. Suspended? Injured? Other?
 
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