Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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How could Inter reject Eto’o plus £23m for Zlatan and Maxwell? Also Zlatan's agent hinted that United might be interested in a Swedish paper.
 
How could Inter reject Eto’o plus £23m for Zlatan and Maxwell? Also Zlatan's agent hinted that United might be interested in a Swedish paper.

The cash offer is more or less the same amount we spend to sign Ibra from Juve, now he's a much better player he was in 2006 and thus he's worth more. Further, I don't want that feckin' mercenary Eto'o, appearently he doesn't want to come to Inter and the only way to convince him would be offering him a 10 million euros wage per year. He can stay at Barça or go somewhere else.
 
The cash offer is more or less the same amount we spend to sign Ibra from Juve, now he's a much better player he was in 2006 and thus he's worth more. Further, I don't want that feckin' mercenary Eto'o, appearently he doesn't want to come to Inter and the only way to convince him would be offering him a 10 million euros wage per year. He can stay at Barça or go somewhere else.

So how much do you think you could get for him? The Gazzetta claims Inter want £80 million....
 
So how much do you think you could get for him? The Gazzetta claims Inter want £80 million....

Of course nobody would pay 80 million for Zlatan but he's worth at least 35-40. I think the best deal possible would be 30 plus Eto'o but it's unlikely 'cause I heard that 30 million is the whole Barça budget for this transfer window (plus the money coming from sellings). Anyway, as I said, I don't really want Eto'o.
 
This would be the 'mercenary' that's spent the past 5 years at one club, and when they said he could leave last summer, he stayed to fight for his place in the team?
 
Aye.

Wasn't he offered about a million quid an hour or summat to go play in Uzbekistan at one point?

It's not exactly the most devoted thing to not go to Uzbekistan and show loyalty to your club though, is it?
 
Sweden were dire full stop. In such situations you look for your special players to produce something... well if you ask me Sweden don't have any special players. Zlatan certainly aint it. Never even looked close to even getting involved. Sweden have to win all their remaining games now just to stand a chance, and I don't see it

Mind you I watched Portugal's second half against Albania, Ronaldo looked like little boy lost out there. They were raggy bastards tonight
 
Sweden were dire full stop. In such situations you look for your special players to produce something... well if you ask me Sweden don't have any special players. Zlatan certainly aint it. Never even looked close to even getting involved. Sweden have to win all their remaining games now just to stand a chance, and I don't see it

Mind you I watched Portugal's second half against Albania, Ronaldo looked like little boy lost out there. They were raggy bastards tonight

Never close to getting involved? He put it on a plate for Larsson.
 
I'm a big fan of Dutch players but they've always flopped for some reason in our club so I wouldn't sign Van Persie but I regard him as a class player who could potentially do the difference and would also suit Mourinho's favourite system.
 
Mate, if you're gunna try and argue that Zlatan had anything even approaching a decent game, you're absolutely barking delusional

I didn't say that, i was pointing out that he was involved, as shit as he was he set up the biggest chance of the game. For the rest he may well have been the worst player on the pitch but since you stated he "Never even looked close to even getting involved" i thought i would bring up the time he was involved. The time he put it on a plate for Larsson to score which he failed to do.
 
I'm a big fan of Dutch players but they've always flopped for some reason in our club so I wouldn't sign Van Persie but I regard him as a class player who could potentially do the difference and would also suit Mourinho's favourite system.

If he could stay fit for longer than 10 consecutive minutes he would be a great addition, to any team really. He's a tremendous talent but a constant sicknote, for that reason he'd be a risk. On purely footballing merits i think he'd be fantastic.
 
If he could stay fit for longer than 10 consecutive minutes he would be a great addition, to any team really. He's a tremendous talent but a constant sicknote, for that reason he'd be a risk. On purely footballing merits i think he'd be fantastic.

Strangely injuries always affects talented Dutch players, this is the case for Sneijder and Robben, two other elements I would sign :D

Van Persie wouldn't have the impact that Ibra has on our team and neither he would provide the same unpredictability but alongside other signings he could help us being competitive also without our number 8.
 
Not so sure about that one Frank.

He may be talented but he doesn't turn that into performances often enough, for me.

He's had a full season this year with very few minor or major injuries, and bar one month of consistently good performances he's been typically inconsistent.
 
Find something more intelligent to say. Because that was bad even for your standards

and to prove my earlier point. Look at Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs. Or Zizou and Ronaldinho.

Chief, you put way too much stock in physical attributes and pieces of skill. Technical proficiency is much more important as it translates to consistency. And a footballing brain is the single greatest talent a footballer can have in his locker.

Zidane called Scholes the greatest midfielder of their generation. I think Zidane is the better player, mind. Probably the best I've ever witnessed. But he was great for his technical prowess and footballing brain as much as anything else. Certainly why he was able to continue on so long.

Giggs has been playing consistently brilliant footie for eons while Ronaldinho was in the stratosphere little more than two years.

And Zlatan isn't half the player Rooney is. Never has been. Never will be.
 
Chief, you put way too much stock in physical attributes and pieces of skill. Technical proficiency is much more important as it translates to consistency. And a footballing brain is the single greatest talent a footballer can have in his locker.

Zidane called Scholes the greatest midfielder of their generation. I think Zidane is the better player, mind. Probably the best I've ever witnessed. But he was great for his technical prowess and footballing brain as much as anything else. Certainly why he was able to continue on so long.

Giggs has been playing consistently brilliant footie for eons while Ronaldinho was in the stratosphere little more than two years.

And Zlatan isn't half the player Rooney is. Never has been. Never will be.

So Zidanes opinion is gold? I wonder what his opinion of Ibrahimovic is. Wait and we'll find out

“I would try to sign Zlatan Ibrahimovic if I was the Real Madrid president; he is a top footballer, one of the reasons why Inter claimed that last few Italian league titles,”

“He is an exceptional player that can make the difference.”

How could Zidane be so right about Scholes yet so wrong about Zlatan? Unless he is wrong in both accounts? :nono:

More likely he is correct in both accounts.
 
Not so sure about that one Frank.

He may be talented but he doesn't turn that into performances often enough, for me.

He's had a full season this year with very few minor or major injuries, and bar one month of consistently good performances he's been typically inconsistent.

20 goals and 15 assists but i see your point. Even during this season it is minor injuries that keep upsetting his game. When he finds good form he seems to have to sit the next week out or the next couple, then gets brought back in tentitively because he has glass legs.
 
So Zidanes opinion is gold? I wonder what his opinion of Ibrahimovic is. Wait and we'll find out

“I would try to sign Zlatan Ibrahimovic if I was the Real Madrid president; he is a top footballer, one of the reasons why Inter claimed that last few Italian league titles,”

“He is an exceptional player that can make the difference.”

How could Zidane be so right about Scholes yet so wrong about Zlatan? Unless he is wrong in both accounts? :nono:

More likely he is correct in both accounts.

If you'd actually taken the time to read my post you'd have noticed I disagreed with Zidane as I think he is not only the best midfielder of his generation but the best player I've ever witnessed live in his prime.

Bottom line is calling Zlatan more talented than Rooney is just foolish. Rooney has BPITW potential and is one of the most versatile players on the planet. Zlatan is inconsistent, plays in a poor league and bottles every big match he partakes in. Never mind the fact that he's older as well.
 
Hopefully Zlatan does go to Madrid or Barcelona this summer. Will make so many people in so many threads about him that criticised him look very silly.

I don't agree that he's more talented than Rooney either, but I don't think it's a laughable opinion.
 
If you'd actually taken the time to read my post you'd have noticed I disagreed with Zidane as I think he is not only the best midfielder of his generation but the best player I've ever witnessed live in his prime.

Bottom line is calling Zlatan more talented than Rooney is just foolish. Rooney has BPITW potential and is one of the most versatile players on the planet. Zlatan is inconsistent, plays in a poor league and bottles every big match he partakes in. Never mind the fact that he's older as well.

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yeah because Zidane is going to know JCurr and state that he is indeed the best player JCurr has ever seen in his prime.

What on earth is your point there?? bizarre.

I thought the same about Rooney when he burst on the scene but then Ronaldo has been overshadowing him, Kaka had a couple of seasons where he was unstoppable and Messi has came in and proven himself better than them all.

Zlatan always had BPITW potential and the day he moves to spain or England you'll realize how wrong you were. I honestly think if he played for a side like United he'd overshadow Rooney and even possibly Ronaldo.
 
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yeah because Zidane is going to know JCurr and state that he is indeed the best player JCurr has ever seen in his prime.

What on earth is your point there?? bizarre.

I thought the same about Rooney when he burst on the scene but then Ronaldo has been overshadowing him, Kaka had a couple of seasons where he was unstoppable and Messi has came in and proven himself better than them all.

Zlatan always had BPITW potential and the day he moves to spain or England you'll realize how wrong you were. I honestly think if he played for a side like United he'd overshadow Rooney and even possibly Ronaldo.

My point was quite clear. Yours however seems lost in a combination of childishness, delusion and possibly down syndrome.
 
Hopefully Zlatan does go to Madrid or Barcelona this summer. Will make so many people in so many threads about him that criticised him look very silly.

I don't agree that he's more talented than Rooney either, but I don't think it's a laughable opinion.

As highly as i rate Rooney i do think he is somewhat over-rated (naturally) by the english press and united fans. You spoke of Van Persie having an inconsistent season yet he was more productive than Rooney playing in a much weaker side.

Rooney has spurts of being an elite player but too often he himself loses form and has periods of relative mediocrity and for this reason i dont think he is as good a player as Ibrahimovic.

This is a personal opinion and I dont expect any United fans to agree with it.
 
As highly as i rate Rooney i do think he is somewhat over-rated (naturally) by the english press and united fans. You spoke of Van Persie having an inconsistent season yet he was more productive than Rooney playing in a much weaker side.

Rooney has spurts of being an elite player but too often he himself loses form and has periods of relative mediocrity and for this reason i dont think he is as good a player as Ibrahimovic.

This is a personal opinion and I dont expect any United fans to agree with it.

If you're going to talk about productivity then you know Rooney's going to beat Van Persie in every area of the last few years, most likely even if you did it goals/assists per game.

Judging Rooney, Van Persie or Ibrahimovic by their productivity doesn't make a lot of sense to me though, that's not what they're about at all.

Oh, and Rooney's 4 years younger than Ibrahimovic.
 
My point was quite clear. Yours however seems lost in a combination of childishness, delusion and possibly down syndrome.

i read your post, it was nonsense and even a person with "down syndrome" whatever that is could see as much.

Honestly, anyone to say Ibrahimovic isn't half the player, or ever will be half the player Rooney is needs to watch a bit of football outside england and stop reading the uk tabloids who would love you to believe such a rediculous statement is true.

Fine you think Rooney is better but anyone can see he isn't twice the player. Anyone with any knowledge of the sport could tell you that they are both world class and both in and amoungst the best in the world.

But no, i'm childish for daring to compare two very comparable players. Jog on
 
If you're going to talk about productivity then you know Rooney's going to beat Van Persie in every area of the last few years, most likely even if you did it goals/assists per game.

Judging Rooney, Van Persie or Ibrahimovic by their productivity doesn't make a lot of sense to me though, that's not what they're about at all.

Oh, and Rooney's 4 years younger than Ibrahimovic.

Facts i'm fully aware of, but you can't deny Rooney has peroids of inconsistency. The very thing you used to detract from Van Persie. But Rooney has suffered the same way, i've seen some of the comments on this forum during one of these periods and it's typically rediculous.

Point is i really don't think Rooney has done all that much more than the likes of Ibrahimovic to be rated so massively higher than him.
 
i read your post, it was nonsense and even a person with "down syndrome" whatever that is could see as much.

Honestly, anyone to say Ibrahimovic isn't half the player, or ever will be half the player Rooney is needs to watch a bit of football outside england and stop reading the uk tabloids who would love you to believe such a rediculous statement is true.

Fine you think Rooney is better but anyone can see he isn't twice the player. Anyone with any knowledge of the sport could tell you that they are both world class and both in and amoungst the best in the world.

But no, i'm childish for daring to compare two very comparable players. Jog on

Zlatan isn't half the player Rooney is. Never will be.
 
Facts i'm fully aware of, but you can't deny Rooney has peroids of inconsistency. The very thing you used to detract from Van Persie. But Rooney has suffered the same way, i've seen some of the comments on this forum during one of these periods and it's typically rediculous.

Point is i really don't think Rooney has done all that much more than the likes of Ibrahimovic to be rated so massively higher than him.

Oh right yeah, I think Rooney goes through periods of inconsistency too, no doubt.

But Van Persie's 25 now, he should be past that stage. Rooney's only 23.

When Ibrahimovic the same age as Van Persie, i.e. at Juve, he was still just as inconsistent as Rooney is now.

I don't think he's done all that much to prove he's much better now, although I do think he's done enough to prove he is better, but even then he's still got 4 years to catch up on Ibrahimovic to prove that he can be consistently better at the same age.
 
Oh right yeah, I think Rooney goes through periods of inconsistency too, no doubt.

But Van Persie's 25 now, he should be past that stage. Rooney's only 23.

When Ibrahimovic the same age as Van Persie, i.e. at Juve, he was still just as inconsistent as Rooney is now.

I don't think he's done all that much to prove he's much better now, although I do think he's done enough to prove he is better, but even then he's still got 4 years to catch up on Ibrahimovic to prove that he can be consistently better at the same age.

I'm not denying that Rooney can go on and be better, but right now he is not a better player. Ibrahimovic has improved an awful lot and you have to take into account the fact that he moved from Sweden to Holland and then to Italy which is 3 massive leaps in quality. Rooney had the good fortune to not have to go through periods of adaptation.

And you know in his first season at Juve as a player from overseas he scored the most goals since Platini, despite his inconsistency.

Also the fact that Capello put him on a weights program that made him too bulky and lost some of his pace and agility was part of the reason for his inconsistent 2nd season although he still provided the most assists in the team.

Rooney has been playing for United for 5 seasons now. His bedding in period is well and truely over and at 23 look at the progress Ronaldo made in the same space of time.

Ibrahimovic has pretty much consistently improved his game since moving to Italy, bar one season at Juve he has been a top performer every year outshining many players who in england (if not spain and italy) are considered much better.
 
Zlatan has a feel for the football that can only be compared to Ruud. Rooney is technically not as good as Zlatan (yet). Rooney's touch lets him down now and again.
Both have fantastically powerful shots, and both are poor with their head.
It would be nice to have Zlatan at number 9, with Rooney and Ronaldo playing off him.
 
Is Rooney as technically good as Ronaldo?

Well for a start, what the feck is 'technically'? Sounds like another bullshit term along the lines of 'naturally gifted' to me

Both are magnificent players. This season Rooney had the better season of the two, last season Ronaldo had the better season eithers had in their career. Both of them are much better players than Zlatan for me, and given that lads never proved himself at one of the biggest clubs in the strongest leagues, or in the latter stages of the Champions League, or at international level, I think it's a silly argument. Not quite as silly as you blaming such opinions on the English tabloids though! :lol:

I live in Sweden by the way
 
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