Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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Eh offside? He was never offside...

He was alright, think he is in much the same situation as Ronaldo, maybe trying a bit too hard and then getting frustrated. Still the hightlight wasnt his goal but the one on one chance he created with an outrageous outside of the right foot through ball he played to Pedro, unfortuantely the youngester couldnt take it.

The signs are there, once he is up to speed he'll be a hell of a player and to get his first goal playing in a fairly weak Barca side will do him nothing but good. He took it well considering it deflected off a defender before coming to him.

He has to start taking the free kicks, i cringe every time Dani Alves steps up to balloon high and wide...

Bojan was lively but he was selfish, a couple of times he could have squared to Ibrahimovic for a tap in but opted to have a strike and miss.
 
Looked better after he'd scored, but i'm still not sold on him. Played one great pass and scored a simple goal, but also balls up after a great pass from Xavi which put him through on goal where he tried to pass it on rather than shoot.

I still haven't seen him play a game where he's matched the hype, one day maybe.
 
He relaxed after the goal, he certainly has not found his feet in the side yet. As i said it is much the same as Ronaldo. You go from being the focal point of the team, the main man, the go to guy and undoubtably the best player in the side to being part of a team where you are no more important than others. You have went for a massive fee which in itself makes it very hard to perform because of the pressure. There is massive pressure on these massive money signings. Couple that with the fact you are going to a new league with a new style of play in a new team with a system that is new to you and you have to give these guys a chance.

Luckily for Zlatan the Barca crowd are nowhere near as bad as the Madrid. I've heard Ronaldo is getting some stick already. The guy has played one league game ffs.
 
With United's football being so crap recently, i actually sat back and enjoyed a Barca game. Great posession football by them, Xavi is a BOSS.

Zlatan's goal was definatley offside....
 
FranklyVulgar said:
He relaxed after the goal, he certainly has not found his feet in the side yet. As i said it is much the same as Ronaldo. You go from being the focal point of the team, the main man, the go to guy and undoubtably the best player in the side to being part of a team where you are no more important than others. You have went for a massive fee which in itself makes it very hard to perform because of the pressure. There is massive pressure on these massive money signings. Couple that with the fact you are going to a new league with a new style of play in a new team with a system that is new to you and you have to give these guys a chance.

Luckily for Zlatan the Barca crowd are nowhere near as bad as the Madrid. I've heard Ronaldo is getting some stick already. The guy has played one league game ffs.
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Que Pasa? Where you hear this? And why you keep bringing Ronaldo into the Zlatan thread:confused:
 
Boss said:
Que Pasa? Where you hear this? And why you keep bringing Ronaldo into the Zlatan thread:confused:
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Because they are in the same situation and people can only relate to the woes of Ronaldo on this board...

You dont agree with my comments? say so, Ronaldo is very much in context and i was using him to make a point that people would understand rather than "zlatan is shit..." which is what they say. I mean people are even claiming he was offside :lol:

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It was touched on by a Sporting defender
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How does that matter? :wenger:

He would still have been offside if he was offside, a touch from a defender doesnt change that fact. The fact is when Alves crossed it he was onside, not even inline but actually behind one of the defenders.

If the sporting player who touched it had been a Barca player then yes he was offside but clear to anyone anywhere with any idea he was onside, who this even became an issue at all in this thread is mindblowing...
 
FranklyVulgar said:
Because they are in the same situation and people can only relate to the woes of Ronaldo on this board...

You dont agree with my comments? say so, Ronaldo is very much in context and i was using him to make a point that people would understand rather than "zlatan is shit..." which is what they say. I mean people are even claiming he was offside :lol:



How does that matter? :wenger:

He would still have been offside if he was offside, a touch from a defender doesnt change that fact. The fact is when Alves crossed it he was onside, not even inline but actually behind one of the defenders.
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I was trying to convey that he was onside, ok? Out of interest where did you hear Ronaldo was getting stick after one game? Any links?

Zlatan is world class, I doubt anybody honestly thinks he's shit desite being pretty gash last night. He will prove his worth in the upcoming weeks, especially when Messi and Iniesta take the pitch together.
 
Vulgar you're being done by the camera angle mate

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He's not offside, he's in line with those last two defenders
 
Boss said:
I was trying to convey that he was onside, ok? Out of interest where did you hear Ronaldo was getting stick after one game? Any links?

Zlatan is world class, I doubt anybody honestly thinks he's shit desite being pretty gash last night. He will prove his worth in the upcoming weeks, especially when Messi and Iniesta take the pitch together.
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They were talking about it during one of the la liga matches at the weekend. Last night they mentioned it after the game too.
 
Brad said:
Vulgar you're being done by the camera angle mate

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He's not offside, he's in line with those last two defenders
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Ain't that what he's been saying! :lol:

First glance it looked offside to me anyway!!
 
Pretty good game for Ibra. First half he was a bit careful and quiet, like a new kid that doesn't want to mess up on the first day. Grew stronger and more influential as the game wore on. In the last quarter you could see his real strength, his ability to hold the ball and create space for himself. This ability may not, however, be in compliance with Barcas style of play. But I still believe he will be a great player for them.
 
FranklyVulgar said:
Guillem and the other guy.

articles like this Cristiano Ronaldo falls short as Real Madrid launch into new era at expectant Bernabéu - Telegraph

and just the way Madrid fans are.
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:confused: I still don't see where it says the fans were giving him stick on the opening day and Ballague never said it after the match either? Madrid fans are ruthless but no more than Barca fans who have booed their team many times, even Ronaldinho who helped them become a real force to reckon with after going through such a sticky patch. Last year they were whistling Valdez because of a mistake against Espanyol. You should look back at the home game against Malorca in 2007/08 to see how vicious the Camp Nou crowd can be.

You have to remember that Eto'o is a lad who scored 30 goals for them last season, always performed in big games, so the pressure is on Zlatan to really step it up because they have lost one of the best strikers the club has ever had along with 40 million to accommodate him in one of the most bizarre transfer deals in world football.

He is going to have to justify that but with Iniesa and Messi at his side that should be no problem. Inter never had this kind of creativity so he should shine and finally show the non -believers what the hype is about. His long awaited first goal in the knock out stages in the Champions League should definitely come this season.
 
Thought he was poor for 85 minutes. Losing the ball, clogging up the fluidity of play.

Scored a goal and made a great pass just after but apart from that he was the same Zlatan I have seen dozens of times.

Still, he needs time to settle before making a judgement of him as a player.
 
i thought they said the crowd were seen to be getting inpatient with him. Maybe i'm wrong but he didn't play well, no matter how many CR7/9 fan boys want to tell you he did. I watched highlights, and seen him run into people, give the ball away countless times and have a few terrible efforts on goal. He saw a lot of the ball and created one chance in the entire game.

Anyway, Ibrahimovic wasnt much better although he hasnt had a full preseason and didnt see much of the ball although just like ROnaldo he showed flashes. Like when he held it up on the left and hit a 60 yard cross field pass to the feet of Pedro i think. That is something Eto'o just doesnt have in his locker. Also the pass to Pedro that he played with the outside of his right foot was sublime.

he is still off the pace though no doubt about that and he didnt play great, quite average but the goal settled him down and once he gets up to speed (which will come with games since he missed all of preseason) he'll gel brilliantly.

Again you just have to look at the side Barcelona had out, 5 or 6 of the first 11 were not first choice players yet they won at a canter even with Zlatan not up to speed. And he got his first goal in open play, had another good header blocked and took part in some moments of good play including a sublime pass to set up a great chance. He is not 100% yet, his moment of madness when he tried to set up Kieta when he should have took it on and scored summed that up although the fact they were up 3-0 with hardly any time left makes it fairly inconsequential.

Madrid with 200million worth of new players really struggled against Deportivo, who are a decent side, certainly a stronger side than Gijon but the defensive frailties of Madrid will still overshadow the brilliance of the players they now possess and that again is the fatal flaw of Perez a guy who has spent almost £450million in various times as president and barely 20-40 on defenders.

You play all out attack you dont win, you get a manager in who wins with a solid defence and you sack him. Madrid are just a mental club really.
 
Sooo... Ronaldo has an average debut at Madrid and the crowd are on his back and he's not very good, whereas Ibrahimovic has an average debut and yet he still looked brilliant in places and has shown he'll definitely gel with the team.

You're a fecking bad joke, FranklyVulgar.
 
Yeah, i pointed out the good moments Ronaldo had too. Is that not fair? he went down the wing and set up a great chance. Had a few efforts on goal and scored a penalty...

What more do you want me to say? that he was good? Point is the Madrid fans expect a lot more for the money than that and he looked really frustrated the whole time. Because he was poor.

Zlatan wasn;t much better yet the fans were singing his name, you could hear it quite clearly through the TV.

I aslo pointed out that it is very early in both cases and they should be given time to get used to it, new league, new team, new style of play, new formation, no longer the star man etc etc.

Of course please continue to take anything bad i say about Ronaldo and anything good i say about Ibrahimovic then put the two together in one sentence then spout off about me being "a fecking bad joke" you tard.
 
Yeah i'm sorry, Ronaldo still cannot be criticized in anyway on a United forum because.....

I wasn't biased either time, i pointed out that both didnt perform, i pointed out the good points and bad and said they are in the same situation and need time. Where the feck is that biased?

You read what you want, you read i am biased against Ronaldo because i dare to criticise him and you think i'm over the top pro ibrahimovic because i rate him and post in bemused retaliation at the amount of people utterly convinced he is rubbish, not even a top 10 striker, in some cases not even a top 20...

Of course i should just abandon any of my own opinions and join the majority of bizarre Ronaldo fan boys (a madrid player no less, the club who made sure he no longer plays for united by going after him for years...) in having no bad words to say despite a performance which was at times remarkably inept for the worlds most expensive footballer.

Also barcelona dont deserve merits? they had the most successful year in the history of spanish football.... if that doesnt deserve a bit of praise then what the hell does :lol:
 
Madrid is definitely a senile club, nobody can argue with that but when you trade a striker who is proven in Europe and big games and is arguably better than Zlatan as a player and also give 40 million further, Barca's sanity must also come into question.
 
You forget, Boss, buying Ibrahimovic was fantastic business for Barcleona that will absolutely, without doubt, definitely come to bear fruit.

Ronaldo, on the other hand, what a waste of money. I mean, even last season he was shite apart from a few penalties.
 
If I'm being honest I would have felt Inter would be the ones paying extra money, but well done to Mourinho for hitting the jackpot in the transfer market.

Inter will finally be serious in Europe in my opinion.
 
Boss said:
Madrid is definitely a senile club, nobody can argue with that but when you trade a striker who is proven in Europe and big games and is arguably better than Zlatan as a player and also give 40 million further, Barca's sanity must also come into question.
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A player who was coming into the last year of his contract, a player who had in the past created devide and dispute in the dressing room. A player who would most likely have left the club for nothing (understandably) and a player who Guardiola never actually wanted in his team from day one.

Eto'o is a fantastic footballer but all the drama around him during his time at Barca had turned Guardiola off him. This was his last chance to sell him, to basically get anything for him after he'd already turned down City and shown little interest in signing a new contract. Guardiola is also a big believer in change to keep the team on their toes. So he does something drastic.

Is it more drastic than what he had planned when he first took over? the selling of Ronaldinho, Deco etc almost 10 odd senior squad members. Bringing in Keita, Alves, Pique and a host of B team youngesters?

I think he is a man who makes big decisions the way i see it Eto'o had to go and Guardiola rates Ibrahimovic (clearly much higher than the majority here) and after the scare against Chelsea figured he would be perfect because whilst losing Eto'o will lose one of if not the most deadly striker he wasnt intigral to the way Barcelona played last season. Easily it was Messi, Iniesta and Xavi and the fitness of these 3. They may not score as many goals but they will have another option as well as all the great attacking football of last season as long as they are fit.

We wait and see.
 
FranklyVulgar said:
A player who was coming into the last year of his contract, a player who had in the past created devide and dispute in the dressing room. A player who would most likely have left the club for nothing (understandably) and a player who Guardiola never actually wanted in his team from day one.

Eto'o is a fantastic footballer but all the drama around him during his time at Barca had turned Guardiola off him. This was his last chance to sell him, to basically get anything for him after he'd already turned down City and shown little interest in signing a new contract. Guardiola is also a big believer in change to keep the team on their toes. So he does something drastic.

Is it more drastic than what he had planned when he first took over? the selling of Ronaldinho, Deco etc almost 10 odd senior squad members. Bringing in Keita, Alves, Pique and a host of B team youngesters?

I think he is a man who makes big decisions the way i see it Eto'o had to go and Guardiola rates Ibrahimovic (clearly much higher than the majority here) and after the scare against Chelsea figured he would be perfect because whilst losing Eto'o will lose one of if not the most deadly striker he wasnt intigral to the way Barcelona played last season. Easily it was Messi, Iniesta and Xavi and the fitness of these 3. They may not score as many goals but they will have another option as well as all the great attacking football of last season as long as they are fit.

We wait and see.
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So much divide that Iniesta asked for a statute to be built of him during the summer?
FC Barcelona Blog: Barça Transfer Zone: Iniesta thinks Eto'o deserves a statue

It's all speculation really in my opinion. Eto'o confessed the other day that Guardiola still has not explained why he sold him, so who knows about whether he was willing to sign another contract or not,seems Barca wanted to get rid of him regardless.

I mean they sold somebody who had just scored 30 goals in the previous season, is proven in Europe and in Big games. Three criteria Ibra has not yet matched despite how great he is, so add 40 million to that, the Barcelona board should be sectioned. Eto'o is one of the greatest strikers Los Cules ever had in their history.

I doubt Pep rates Ibra higher than Eto'o, I still think alot of politics from Laporta and Txiki was involved in the transfer so they can make a statement back to Madrid that they can make ridiculous signings as well and appease the fan fears.

Barcelona are not new to this, before they got Ronaldinho, they promised the fans David Beckham, the season before they bought Henry they were willing to cough up 50 Million which was crazy money back then. What I'm trying to say is, they can be just as crazy as Madrid when putting marketing before football just like Perez. It's what happens when you have things like elections at a football club, politics and football just don't mix.

I have doubts that it was a pure footballing decision to sell Eto'o who I feel is a better player than Ibra, but who knows.
 
Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini could attempt to sign Zlatan Ibrahimovic this summer as he builds a squad for the UEFA Champions League.

Having secured fourth place in the Premier League after a 1-0 win over Tottenham on Tuesday night, City are planning for next season.

And with uncertainty surrounding the future of Carlos Tevez, and Mario Balotelli and Edin Dzeko failing to meet expectations, a striker could be a target.

Ibrahimovic is currently on loan at Serie A champions AC Milan from Barcelona and the Swede has said he wants to stay at the San Siro, but a City bid of around £20million could change the situation.

Mancini, who won the Italian title with the 29-year-old at Inter Milan, said in The Sun: "If Zlatan wants to come to City, I would immediately find him a place."

City reportedly fear that Argentina international Tevez still wants to quit the club this summer, despite withdrawing a transfer request earlier in the season.

There has also been speculation about Balotelli, a £24m signing from Inter last August, amid suggestions that the Italian is homesick.

But Mancini, who left the 20-year-old as an unused substitute against Tottenham, said: "He will definitely stay. Mario is an ongoing bet.

"He has shown he has all the right qualities, but needs to do more, much more, to give a sense to his talent."
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From SkySports News this morning.

It wouldn't suprise me the slightest to be honest
 
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