Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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Ok, so this needs clearling up because its important to the context of the transfer

How many years did Zlatan have left on his Inter contract?

On the one hand:

"Zlatans agent konstaterar att det är Inters president Massimo Moratti som har bollen, vilket är politiskt korrekt, eftersom Zlatan har ett kontrakt med Inter som sträcker sig till halvårsskiftet 2013"

http://www.dn.se/sport/fotboll/vart-tar-zlatan-vagen-1.862893

That says he had a contract until 2013. A respected paper in Sweden, and if anyone should know, it's the Swedes

On the other hand:

"Ibrahimovic, who has only one year left on his contract at Inter, has been strongly linked with a move away from the San Siro"

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...rth-euro90m-says-inter-president-1705549.html

And backing this up, he definitely signed a 4 year contract when he signed for Inter in 2006, but I can't find anywhere on the internet a story confirming he renewed his contract at any point

So, which is it?
 
I can sort this out for you, Brad.

His contract at Inter was due to expire in the year I don't give a shit.
 
I think all these people saying this will make Barca worse are off the mark. Eto'o before his first injury a few years ago was incredible possibly the best player in Europe and he capped it off by wining the golden boot and scoring in the CL final. He's never been the same since his first big injury, his return performances in both the previous two seasons after injuries were fairly poor and last season was a bit of a comeback for him but other than his goal against United his season trailed off badly. I don't think he suited Barca particularly well at all either, when they Ronaldinho played for Barca he profited a lot off of him picking the ball up deep and him chipping the ball over the defence or laying a through ball in, since Messi's come more into the team and Henry as well Barcelona have defiantly looked like they could do with someone who can hold the ball up and bring other players into the game. They were linked with Kanoute and Adebayor last summer by the Catalan press with Eto'o being shipped of to Italy, i think Ibrahimovic is a big upgrade on both of those players. Eto'o was an important part of the 05/06 winning side but he's been more of a side act to Iniesta, Xavi, Messi and even Henry this season.
 
Brad said:
Or they could be much worse, because Eto'o was absolutely perfect for them, hence all the goals and the silverware

I still can't get my head around this. Barca have been mugged blind. Ok a swap deal for 2 players with a year remaining on their contracts. But 40million Euro on top?!?! Just not right. It's either fishy or someone at Barca wants their head testing

Inter have made the deal of the century
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Someone mentioned something about Nike financing a part of this deal to keep him at a Nike sponsored club. Anyone know anything about this:confused:
 
Eto'o had a year left. He was clearly not going to sign a new contract. He rejected City. No other big club wanted him. Barcelona either had to sell him now or risk losing him for nothing and disrupting the dressing room next season. Instead, they made him the makeweight in securing their main target of the summer. Ok, they've overpaid, but they've got their man.

I don't see anything fishy about it.
 
x42bn6 said:
If they can get him to be arsed to turn up, he will be way, way better than Eto'o.

There's an if, of course.
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So he's gonna do better then a striker who scored 30 goals in 34 games, in a team that won everything they possibly could?

How exactly is he going to do any better, nevermind 'way, way better'?
 
Sam#1 said:
So he's gonna do better then a striker who scored 30 goals in 34 games, in a team that won everything they possibly could?

How exactly is he going to do any better, nevermind 'way, way better'?
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He's an enigma in many ways. A brilliant, clinical striker when on form and about as visible as Liam Miller when not.

Guardiola knows what he's done and he's not doing this for charity. If he can get Ibrahimović on form, I can see him at least matching Eto'o's tallies.
 
Lailiani said:
According to himself, he had a contract until 2013:

"I feel good, both physically and in terms of my game. My contract? Last year I signed until 2013."

(http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=30127&L=en)

This statement is from October 2008, which means he had re-newed his contract in 2007.
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Well done. He did it incredibly fecking quietly then, can't find anything about it on the net. They reported earlier in the summer he was the best paid player in the world prior to the Ronaldo deal, you'd think someone in the press might bother to mention it happening at the time!!!

It does at least explain the price differential, and the sum seems fairer now. Even if Inter still have the better end of the deal for me, bagging the superior striker
 
Brad said:
Well done. He did it incredibly fecking quietly then, can't find anything about it on the net. They reported earlier in the summer he was the best paid player in the world prior to the Ronaldo deal, you'd think someone in the press might bother to mention it happening at the time!!!

It does at least explain the price differential, and the sum seems fairer now. Even if Inter still have the better end of the deal for me, bagging the superior striker
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A part of me still would have loved Eto'o at united:drool::(
 
Forget Eto's contract situation, what would you say he's worth in todays market? Argubly the best striker in the world atm. If Berbatov and Benzema cost roughly £30 million, and the likes of Kaka going for £50 odd million. You'd have to place Eto at £40 million +?...throw in the £40 million Barca payed on top of the player, then you could argue that Zlatan cost more or less the same as Ronaldo...which is really really crazy. Inter will be running to the bank as we speak.

Saying that, the fact Eto only had a year left on his contract does slighty change the situation. But the point still stands..Inter got £40 million and a £40 odd million rated stiker on top of that. Fantastic piece of business.
 
Sam#1 said:
Forget Eto's contract situation, what would you say he's worth in todays market? ...
Saying that, the fact Eto only had a year left on his contract does slighty change the situation.
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Nutter.
 
Sam#1 said:
Forget Eto's contract situation, what would you say he's worth in todays market? Argubly the best striker in the world atm. If Berbatov and Benzema cost roughly £30 million, and the likes of Kaka going for £50 odd million. You'd have to place Eto at £40 million +?...throw in the £40 million Barca payed on top of the player, then you could argue that Zlatan cost more or less the same as Ronaldo...which is really really crazy. Inter will be running to the bank as we speak.

Saying that, the fact Eto only had a year left on his contract does slighty change the situation. But the point still stands..Inter got £40 million and a £40 odd million rated stiker on top of that. Fantastic piece of business.
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To be fair Sam, at the old exchange rate, it's about £30 mill and Barca would have got £15 mill for eto'o but they couldn't even find any of the big clubs willing to pay that and you can bet anything that Laporta offered eto'o to all the big teams. The deal is worth around £45 mill in total and one could argue that if Berba can go for £30 mill, then Zlatan is easily worth £45 mill and this is in an inflated market.

It's a good deal for both deals but I agree with you that Inter have got around £30 mill + a £30 mill rated striker, they must be in dream land.

No more excuses for Zlatan now and I can assure you that Eto'o will score in the knockout stages of the CL next season, which will put to bed FranklyVulgar's argument that Zlatan was single handedly dragging along an average side. I'd wager that Inter get further in the CL next year than they have with Zlatan and that Eto'o's goals will be the major factor in it.
 
Sam#1 said:
So he's gonna do better then a striker who scored 30 goals in 34 games, in a team that won everything they possibly could?

How exactly is he going to do any better, nevermind 'way, way better'?
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By scoring 25 and setting up 20?

It's very possible.
 
MehdiMahdavikia said:
I think all these people saying this will make Barca worse are off the mark. Eto'o before his first injury a few years ago was incredible possibly the best player in Europe and he capped it off by wining the golden boot and scoring in the CL final. He's never been the same since his first big injury, his return performances in both the previous two seasons after injuries were fairly poor and last season was a bit of a comeback for him but other than his goal against United his season trailed off badly. I don't think he suited Barca particularly well at all either, when they Ronaldinho played for Barca he profited a lot off of him picking the ball up deep and him chipping the ball over the defence or laying a through ball in, since Messi's come more into the team and Henry as well Barcelona have defiantly looked like they could do with someone who can hold the ball up and bring other players into the game. They were linked with Kanoute and Adebayor last summer by the Catalan press with Eto'o being shipped of to Italy, i think Ibrahimovic is a big upgrade on both of those players. Eto'o was an important part of the 05/06 winning side but he's been more of a side act to Iniesta, Xavi, Messi and even Henry this season.
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A side act who scored 34 goals?! Who also delivered the most pivotal moment of the 2008/09 Champions League when his solo effort opened the scoring in Rome. Despite, as you said, going off the boil in the previous month.

Even last year, he netted 16 goals in 18 La Liga games which is the form of a world-class marksman not someone who had a "fairly poor season"!

And, in terms of how he fits in to the side, his pace, directness and ruthless finishing complemented Barcelona's short-passing carousel brilliantly. The team scored an outrageous 158 goals and is not the kind of end result of an "ill-fitting" attack.
 
Devil_forever said:
It's a good deal for both deals but I agree with you that Inter have got around £30 mill + a £30 mill rated striker, they must be in dream land.
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I'd rate Eto at more then £30 million, if you consider both Berba and Benzema went for around that much.

But yeah, I think what you said sort of sums it up.
 
Sam#1 said:
I'm talking about how much Eto is worth as a player. what would you say? £30 million? £40 million?
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£20m tops considering his situation at Barcelona.

No question that Inter have got the better deal, but it's easy to see why. It's not a simple matter of comparing the two players.
 
Brwned and Brad, didn't the two of you have some kind of bet as to whether or not Eto'o would leave this season?
 
Brwned said:
By scoring 25 and setting up 20?

It's very possible.
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I think you'd agree Ronaldo was better in 06/07 than the season after even though he scored 42 goals so that would counter the argument of not being able to have a better season than 34 goals.
 
brophs said:
Brad very fairly offered to pay up, from memory.
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So Brad lost?
We need a thread keeping check of all the Caf Bets being made. Otherwise I'll just be derailing random threads, and we can't have that.
 
Top said:
So Brad lost?
We need a thread keeping check of all the Caf Bets being made. Otherwise I'll just be derailing random threads, and we can't have that.
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I think so. I vaguely remember him offering to pay up, unbidden.

And you don't derail them, you gently steer them away from any sort of meaningful or even coherent debate. There's a huge difference.:smirk:
 
Top said:
So Brad lost?
We need a thread keeping check of all the Caf Bets being made. Otherwise I'll just be derailing random threads, and we can't have that.
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Two bets for me so far, two wins, £15 in the bag.

All I need to do now is set up this bloody paypal account.
 
Sam#1 said:
:wenger:
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He has just one year left on his contract, he's 28 years old, he'll be absent for one or two months because of the African Cup of Nations in 2010, Barcelona have officially announced that he doesn't fit into their dressing room and he has enormous wage demands, so most clubs can't afford him - bearing all these things in mind sincher's valuation is pretty much spot on.

Eto'o is a quality striker and there's no doubt about that, but every situation has a context.
 
Lailiani said:
He has just one year left on his contract, he's 28 years old, he'll be absent for one or two months because of the African Cup of Nations in 2010, Barcelona have officially announced that he doesn't fit into their dressing room and he has enormous wage demands, so most clubs can't afford him - bearing all these things in mind sincher's valuation is pretty much spot on.

Eto'o is a quality striker and there's no doubt about that, but every situation has a context.
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When was this announced?
 
Boss said:
I'm taking about not fitting into the dressing room, does n't that imply he did n't have the right morale?
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Well, maybe I'm getting the wrong impression from Guardiola's interview, here's the link:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...r-etorsquoo-barcelona-prospects-14420050.html

He's saying that getting rid of Eto'o "is the best for the team, the best for the club", that there are "no footballing reasons" for this decision and he's not there "to change anyone's character", that he has to decide on which players he wants to "count on for the season" and that he "had to change the dressing room". To be fair, he's not directly saying that it had anything to do with Eto'o's character, so I might have misinterpreted him. But this is the vibe I'm getting from this interview.
 
This deal saddens me, the price is astonishing, but Zlatan is an amazing player, and Barcelona have yet another absolute magician in their squad.
 
Lailiani said:
Well, maybe I'm getting the wrong impression from Guardiola's interview, here's the link:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...r-etorsquoo-barcelona-prospects-14420050.html

He's saying that getting rid of Eto'o "is the best for the team, the best for the club", that there are "no footballing reasons" for this decision and he's not there "to change anyone's character", that he has to decide on which players he wants to "count on for the season" and that he "had to change the dressing room". To be fair, he's not directly saying that it had anything to do with Eto'o's character, so I might have misinterpreted him. But this is the vibe I'm getting from this interview.
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Fair enough, I now understand what you are saying
 
Lailiani said:
Well, maybe I'm getting the wrong impression from Guardiola's interview, here's the link:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...r-etorsquoo-barcelona-prospects-14420050.html

He's saying that getting rid of Eto'o "is the best for the team, the best for the club", that there are "no footballing reasons" for this decision and he's not there "to change anyone's character", that he has to decide on which players he wants to "count on for the season" and that he "had to change the dressing room". To be fair, he's not directly saying that it had anything to do with Eto'o's character, so I might have misinterpreted him. But this is the vibe I'm getting from this interview.
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The player he told had no future at the club the summer previous top scored in Barca's most successful ever season

Some character flaw eh!
 
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