Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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That looks really bad in slow motion, up close replays for sure from Ibra but it could have been totally unintentional couldn't it? I didn't see the match so I don't know.
 
I don't know either, I just saw it on other site and copied it here. It's really hard to tell, but he has a history of those incidents, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.
 
Right. I think it's intentional. Look after tripping the guy up, he jumps. He could have easily vaulted over that guy by moving his legs forward past the guy. There is no reason at all to bringing his feet/legs down early except "accidently" stamping on the guy.

My take on it.
 
Think its pretty blatent that he intentionally caught him. Whether or not he was able to specifically target the face I'm not so sure about.
 
Looks to me like he's trying to plant his foot to run after the ball. If it's intentional then he ought to be jailed, it's a sickening assault but there's not enough in that gif to say it is for me.
 
What the video, as he trips the guy up he stops for a second and turns direction and jumps and that jump isn't a natural movement. It is as if he planned it and did it intentionally. He also looks at him before he jumps and changes direction. Intentional imo
 
What the video, as he trips the guy up he stops for a second and turns direction and jumps and that jump isn't a natural movement. It is as if he planned it and did it intentionally. He also looks at him before he jumps and changes direction. Intentional imo

It's not a natural movement, he's chasing after a ball which is spinning away.
 
The guy's legs are spinning all over the place and the ball's movement is unpredictable, I think it's normal that his movement would be a bit unnatural looking in that situation.
 
The guy's legs are spinning all over the place and the ball's movement is unpredictable, I think it's normal that his movement would be a bit unnatural looking in that situation.

That's what I thought, the ball is moving away from him, the player just fell onto the ground and is all over the place. It is too hard to say whether it was just bad luck Zlatan caught him or if it was intentional.
 
Obviously intentional. He cleared the guy, he didn't need to land like that.

He has to plant his foot to chase after the ball. Why the hell would he intentionally jump on an opponents head in the middle of a match? It could have maimed him or even killed him, it doesn't make any sense.
 
He has to plant his foot to chase after the ball. Why the hell would he intentionally jump on an opponents head in the middle of a match? It could have maimed him or even killed him, it doesn't make any sense.

The movement of that left leg is unquestionably unnatural, there's no getting around that. He'd already cleared the guy, and the natural place to plant it in order to keep running was beyond him. Instead he moves it backwards so as to stamp.

For me it's unlikely he was specifically aiming for the face/head. In that split second of frustration at having lost the ball, he went for the stamp, and there's no thinking about consequences in a reaction like that, just a need to express that anger. But there's also no time for the sort of calculated maliciousness which would have been required to deliberately aim for the face. Plus it's highly unlikely, think what you might about Ibra, that he'd do such a horrific thing. You'd have to be a pretty fecked up human being.
 
He's not just trying to keep running, he's trying to change direction to keep pace with a spinning, moving ball and avoid being taken out by his opponents flailing legs. The safest way (for him) to do it is to get his foot down as quickly as possible and use it to push off in a particular direction. Maybe he was a bit reckless to his opponents safety, concentrating only on the ball, it's probably worthy of a booking in that respect, but it's very harsh to call that intentional or deliberate.
 
This argument about trying to keep pace with the ball that is naturally spinning away is so easy. The referee blew his whistle even before then but he still wanted to jump. At the end of the day, he is a good footballer, and if that was Suarez, you'd be hanging him already so, let us call a spade a spade. Just because he plays for QSG, doesn't mean he is immune to criticism.
 
I've always thought Ibrahimovic is proper mental and one of the most disgraceful persons in the game at the moment. He has a history of committing vile acts in sneaky ways. In this instance he looks to the other players, jumps over him with acres of space to put his feet and then brings his foot to his face. That looks intentional for any player, but with Ibrahimovic involved you just know it is. He probably just wanted to catch his face a bit with the side of his foot but overdoes it. He wouldn't have wanted to plant his studs in his face, that's too much even for Ibrahimovic. But he's that type of player that if he can hurt an opponent while making it look like an accident, he rarely passes up the opportunity. He really is a horrific cnut.
 
Yeah, a player of his agility and awareness could jump like that unintentionally. After stupidly fouling the player as well. He's a cnut. And he's no Ronaldo or Messi to make up for that.
 
Yeah, a player of his agility and awareness could jump like that unintentionally. After stupidly fouling the player as well. He's a cnut. And he's no Ronaldo or Messi to make up for that.

After having practiced Tae Kwon-Do myself for nearly 10 years, I know exactly how agile he is for a big guy. He is a 4th degree black belt and some of his aerial moves are fantastic. He is simply a Joey Barton who can score goals. It is terrible that the French are creaming themselves over him and always discuss his overhead kick against England, but his bad points, not a dicky.
 
Tbh Proud_Lyon his cnutish aspect is more and more discussed and highlighted in the french media.He's seen as a great player but also as a very dangerous one for the health of opponents, he'll probably receive a ban soon for what he did against Lovren in the Lyon match
 
After having practiced Tae Kwon-Do myself for nearly 10 years, I know exactly how agile he is for a big guy. He is a 4th degree black belt and some of his aerial moves are fantastic. He is simply a Joey Barton who can score goals. It is terrible that the French are creaming themselves over him and always discuss his overhead kick against England, but his bad points, not a dicky.

It doesn't really matter how agile you are, anyone who has ever played football knows that awkward stuff like that can happen. Zlatan is not like Barton, he's just a huge player with a hard playing style.
 
It doesn't really matter how agile you are, anyone who has ever played football knows that awkward stuff like that can happen. Zlatan is not like Barton, he's just a huge player with a hard playing style.

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So, he doesn't do any dangerous tackles, he doesn't elbow players, he doesn't headbutt players. I can remember Balotelli getting stick and rightly so for what he did to Scott Parker so, I don't see the difference either with Zlatan. If he had been playing for the bitters, Chelsea or the dippers you'd be singing from a different hymn sheet to what you are singing from now. He is a great player, but saying he has a hard playing style is a bit much.
 
It doesn't really matter how agile you are, anyone who has ever played football knows that awkward stuff like that can happen. Zlatan is not like Barton, he's just a huge player with a hard playing style.

I've played a bit of a footie (now only futsal) and that particular situation would have easily been avoidable for me. Let alone a terrific athlete he is. No need to defend any bad thing he does and he does plenty. He is a marvelous footballer, but still not a Ronaldo or Messi in particular to make up for that. A glorified Suarez's case, i.e. better footballer, not as wide range of cuntishness.
 
Not intentional by any means, look at his head, his eyes are on the ball long before he plants his feet.
 
I've played a bit of a footie (now only futsal) and that particular situation would have easily been avoidable for me. Let alone a terrific athlete he is. No need to defend any bad thing he does and he does plenty. He is a marvelous footballer, but still not a Ronaldo or Messi in particular to make up for that. A glorified Suarez's case, i.e. better footballer, not as wide range of cuntishness.

As I said earlier, if he had been playing for the dippers or the bitters, we would be calling for his head. I hate any sort of hooliganism in football and will not defend it, whether it was Keane on Haaland, Rooney being a hooligan as he has been on a few occasions, Duncan Ferguson, Suarez, Barton, Balotelli. They are all the same, just because he is a good player doesn't mean he can get away with that sort of stuff. However, that is only one incident that he as obviously got away with. I can remember Zlatan doing a DeJong Kung Fu kick on the St. Etienne goalkeeper. The way Zlatan didn't even look at the ball speaks volumes, the way he wanted to plant his size 12s into the middle of the gks chest.
Not intentional by any means, look at his head, his eyes are on the ball long before he plants his feet.

This is not intentional either then:

 
I remember when someone, Amar I think, said Gomez is a poor mans ronaldo. Joey Barton has been compared to Ibra today.
 
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