Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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TheHorse'sMouth said:
Ibra's technique is sublime, for such a big guy it's his technique which really stands out. Love how the English media have jumped on his dick all of a sudden :lol:
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The only way he'll be properly rated in England would be if he ever moved to the Premier League, and IMO he would do great here. He's made for this league if anything. Is massive, can out muscle pretty much any defender and has fantastic technique, like you said.
 
I don't know how anyone who loves football can dislike Ibra. He's the type of player that can actually pull something ridiculous out of nothing. The way he plays is brilliant. Elegance, control and power. Genius.
 
Reapersoul20 said:
Rooney at a similar level as a pure forward....:lol:.

Ooh the red tinted specs are good craic :)
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Not sure if this is in response to me... but I specified that Rooney last season overall and in 09/10 he was as good (certainly as productive) as Ibrahimovic was the last few years.
Its hard to compare Rooney to anyone these days because I'm not exactly sure what position he plays for us anymore :lol: Is he a midfielder mostly, does he play in the whole, is he a striker, he even goes on the left wing during games. He's got a bit of a free role for us these days.
 
R.N7 said:
I don't get the lazy criticism. He's all over the pitch creating play when he plays for Sweden.
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It's because he doesn't run around closing people down (something Ekeke seems to love for instance). I never understand why there is this fascination with strikers who do that.I mean it's good to have that in a player up front but it's not essential.
If you have a striker who can score tons of goals and create also for his teammates then it's more than enough
 
During the Euros my cousin and his friends started a game of nicknaming players, who had names that are a bit difficult to pronounce.

And Ibra got the name 'Avatar'. Quite apt I'd say.
 
Varun_Utd said:
What does closing people down have to do with being a complete striker? Utter bollox.

And there's no way Ibra is any slower than RVP.
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:eek:

Closing down is a big part of today's game. You dont have to be Tevez, but being a passanger at this part of the game is short of the total package thats for sure. Its not as important as other aspects of being a striker, but if you were a complete striker its not something you'd be lacking either.
 
kouroux said:
It's because he doesn't run around closing people down (something Ekeke seems to love for instance). I never understand why there is this fascination with strikers who do that.I mean it's good to have that in a player up front but it's not essential.
If you have a striker who can score tons of goals and create also for his teammates then it's more than enough
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Where did I say he has to do it? Its just something he doesnt do and surely thats part of the "complete striker" tag people have brought into this thread. It shouldnt be ignored just because he doesnt do it.
 
Ekeke said:
Where did I say he has to do it? Its just something he doesnt do and surely thats part of the "complete striker" tag people have brought into this thread. It shouldnt be ignored just because he doesnt do it.
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Which striker among the best ones in the history of the game was notorious for his closing down ? That's an honest and serious question."Closing down" defenders is not something you should consider when you're wondering if a striker is as complete or not.
Besides regarding that aspect of the game, he isn't even among the most lazy strikers you can find in today's game.It's just weird something to even mention :lol:
 
kouroux said:
Which striker among the best ones in the history of the game was notorious for his closing down ? That's an honest and serious question."Closing down" defenders is not something you should consider when you're wondering if a striker is as complete or not.
Besides regarding that aspect of the game, he isn't even among the most lazy strikers you can find in today's game.It's just weird something to even mention :lol:
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I think he's one of the more lazy when he doesnt have the ball when compared to other strikers worth mentioning as some of the better ones in the game. But you're right there are much lesser strikers who are just as if not more lazy with it, its just I dont see the point comparing Ibrahimovic with Lukaku or something.

Its something Berbatov had thrown at him but he genuinely improved in that regard and I praised him for it. I just think being "average" at closing down and helping the team when you dont have the ball should be considered part of being a complete striker. As should having average or above average pace to consistantly stretch the backline as with RVP. For me its clear RVP is a ways ahead in these aspects and thats why I'd argue he's the more complete striker.
 
I understand you but I don't think it's relevant at all.Messi for instance has been given a lot freedom to cut on some of his defensive duties to solely focus on the attacking aspect.
Whether a striker is "complete" or not is a meaningless discussion as in essence it's just impossible to find one who is good at every aspect of the game.
Most important thing to ask yourself if he has the attributes related to his position and role on the field and how efficient he generally is.There is no such thing as a "complete" player
 
kouroux said:
I understand you but I don't think it's relevant at all.Messi for instance has been given a lot freedom to cut on some of his defensive duties to solely focus on the attacking aspect.
Whether a striker is "complete" or not is a meaningless discussion as in essence it's just impossible to find one who is good at every aspect of the game.
Most important thing to ask yourself if he has the attributes related to his position and role on the field and how efficient he generally is.There is no such thing as a "complete" player
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Fair points.
 
The closing down stuff is nonsense. It's a nice thing to have from a striker, but if they don't do it then by no means does it stop them from being a complete striker. It's an extra part of their game to pressure a defence that is nice to have, but not a necessity.
 
I think right now you'd have to have Zlatan, RVP and Falcao as the three best strikers in the world. Then Rooney, Aguero, Tevez, Benzema, Lewandowski and Higuain coming up the level below them. Then people like Torres, Suarez, Villa, Gomez, Huntelaar, Hernandez....

Seems like there's quite a good group of strikers at top clubs at the moment.
 
bosnian_red said:
That's just completely ridiculous. I mean Suarez is not even close to Ibrahimovic's level.. in any aspect of his game. Even for close control, Ibrahimovic is miles better then Suarez. Did Ibrahimovic personally insult you or something to make you dislike him this much that you can't even see that he's a truly world class striker?

Comparing Rooney to him is hard because Rooney isn't exactly a striker these days, but when Rooney was a striker (last season, 09/10), he was at a similar level to Ibra. So pretty much I rate them both at around the same level.

How you can rate Suarez who scored 17 goals last season as liverpools main goalscorer last season over Ibrahimovic, who scored 35 goals and got 14 assists for Milan last season I will never know. I mean Ibrahimovic hasn't scored less then 20 goals in a season since 06/07 and people still call him inconsistent :lol:
People are so ridiculously biased with this premier league> all concept that they act like the Italian league, French league, German League or Spanish leagues are all shit.
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Spot on. Imo Ibra stayed too long at Serie A, which with its general decline, may have hurt Zlatan's standing in the game.

However, he's been consistently the outstanding performer for Inter and Milan and is one of the best strikers in the world. Certainly top 3
 
Ekeke said:
I think he's one of the more lazy when he doesnt have the ball when compared to other strikers worth mentioning as some of the better ones in the game. But you're right there are much lesser strikers who are just as if not more lazy with it, its just I dont see the point comparing Ibrahimovic with Lukaku or something.

Its something Berbatov had thrown at him but he genuinely improved in that regard and I praised him for it. I just think being "average" at closing down and helping the team when you dont have the ball should be considered part of being a complete striker. As should having average or above average pace to consistantly stretch the backline as with RVP. For me its clear RVP is a ways ahead in these aspects and thats why I'd argue he's the more complete striker.
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Messi is quite fckn lazy when it comes to closing ppl down, but according to your logic he's not the complete package. Ditto for Cristiano.

:lol:
 
I'm surprised if PSG scores a goal whilst he's on the pitch and he doesn't have something to do with it.
 
They really do struggle when he doesn't play. Such a brilliant forward to watch
 
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