Well said and brilliant goal even if you hated the team you have to love that goal
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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Well said and brilliant goal even if you hated the team you have to love that goal
He's such a character:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7gyhiRGG40&feature=fvwrel
Some of my favourite goals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nc2HxLeM74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht0M_wgHqdw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=XDVm-cqXToQ&NR=1#t=3m45s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZePbYQW4BY#t=2m00s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7gyhiRGG40&feature=fvwrel
Some of my favourite goals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nc2HxLeM74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht0M_wgHqdw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=XDVm-cqXToQ&NR=1#t=3m45s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZePbYQW4BY#t=2m00s
It's not just at PSG though, last season he hit 35 goals in 43 starts. It was the second time he hit 25 goals or more in Serie A in 4 years. In the last 10 years, there's been just 10 players to get 25 league goals or more in the same league on a couple of occasions:
Premier League:
Henry
Rooney
La Liga:
Eto'o
Forlan
Villa
Messi
Ronaldo
Serie A:
Ibrahimovic
Di Natale
Bundesliga:
Mario Gomez
Ligue Un:
Oh my god, not even as good as Ronaldo? You were clearly joking
The real reason why he left Barca was because messi wanted to play in the middle, and it doesn't take a genius to find out that messi is better then ibra, so ibra wasn't a starter anymore, and fell out with pep. He is way too good to be on the bench for anyone, and he has proved in every single league that he has played in how good he is (did decent Spain considering his equation).
People comparing him to berbatov is ridiculous, when pretty much the only thing they are similar at is their amazing first touch. Ibrahimovic is basically as complete a striker as you can get, and he is pretty consistent, and contrary to what most people believe he's actually got a good record in big games. Constantly scored in Italian derbies, scored in the Classico, and is 3rd (along with a few others) on top scorers in the euros ever, despite playing for Sweden. His record in Europe now is much better than it used to be as well. IMO he's definitely up there with van Persie, falcao and Rooney(as a striker) as the best strikers in the world.
People comparing him to berbatov is ridiculous, when pretty much the only thing they are similar at is their amazing first touch. Ibrahimovic is basically as complete a striker as you can get, and he is pretty consistent, and contrary to what most people believe he's actually got a good record in big games. Constantly scored in Italian derbies, scored in the Classico, and is 3rd (along with a few others) on top scorers in the euros ever, despite playing for Sweden. His record in Europe now is much better than it used to be as well. IMO he's definitely up there with van Persie, falcao and Rooney(as a striker) as the best strikers in the world.
Wouldnt a complete striker also have pace and be closing people down?
These are part of being a striker too.
RVP has them.
These are part of being a striker too.
RVP has them.
RvP isn't the paciest striker though.
Jesus, come off it. They are about as equally fast.
It's not like Ibrahimovic is slow though, hes got average pace but is really good with the ball at his feet, and can out muscle pretty much any defender (when he made lescott (?) look like a child at the euro's
)Granted he doesn't do much defensively but he's the main striker, and is not being asked to do so. That's more of a bonus when it comes to certain strikers. Anyways, I never said he's better then RVP, I just said he's up there alongside him and Falcao, as the best strikers in the world.
Over five years and Ekeke's still talking out of his arse in this thread.
Closing people down is irrelevant to striking. It's a bonus. Also anyone who thinks Zlatan lacks pace lives under a rock.
Only after that season in Spain he started to score regularly in big matches and in KO of Champions League.
Standing up for your right's isn't throwing toys out of the pram.
What does closing people down have to do with being a complete striker? Utter bollox.
And there's no way Ibra is any slower than RVP.
I think that is a bit harsh on Zlatan. I agree that it was a bad deal in the sense that 40m+ Eto'o was madness but I'm sure they could have tried to work out a formation where he could have flourished alongside Messi.
How often does a modern-day, line-leading centre-forward possess that combination of strength, technique and finishing prowess?
Seeing this video I can't help but feel he would fit great into the next Jackass movie, randomly walking around the set and kicking people in the head when they least expect it or try to eat something.
Well Drogba at his best is actually the only one I can remember that combined great physical attributes with loads of footballing ability.
Ibra despite being a big guy is much more a technical player then anything else.
Why would you want your striker to have the pace to close people down ?
Zlatan must shagged his sister or something.
There's hardly any.. Drogba has been mentioed, Batistuta and Vieri perhaps, arguably Van Basten. But I'd still say Ibra is more technical, though probably not as good overall.
No probably about it for me, VB and Batistuta are far superior players to Ibra IMO and Drogba is the better out of the two also.
Yeah the Van Basten one is clear as day, was less sure on Vieri and Batistuta though I think they are better.
Thing is though all three probably aren't as technical as him, they also aren't as physical. Van Basten is 6 ft 2, Vieri and Bastistuta are 6 ft 1 and Zlatan is 6 ft 5. So you would think he should be the better player, but obviously it doesn't work quite like that.
Thing is though all three probably aren't as technical as him, they also aren't as physical. Van Basten is 6 ft 2, Vieri and Bastistuta are 6 ft 1 and Zlatan is 6 ft 5. So you would think he should be the better player, but obviously it doesn't work quite like that.
I think he can match if not surpass those players in terms of pure technical ability, as a CF his creativity is ridiculous, but he isn't as good a finisher as them and doesn't have the same ability to deliver when it really matters/is needed as they did IMO.
If I was to try and rank them I'd go:
Van Basten
Batistuta
Drogba
Viera/Ibra
I remember when I first heard of Ibra, my dad was keen to describe him as the new Litmanen, as he loves Ajax. Not the greatest comparison but not the worst either I think, though Ibra is physically far more imposing.
I'll come out and say it now: Ibrahimovic is probably my favourite player in the world at the moment. And what an incredible goal that was he scored against England.
He's a great player who unfortunately hasn't had the best of luck in big games. He was in that amazing Juve team that got relegated because of match-fixing scandals; the he was at Inter under Mancini, who has a terrible Champions League record but walked the league. Then he left for Barca just as Mourinho was getting his team together that eventually won the CL trophy. And he just didn't fit in at Barca whatsoever.
Possibly, his personality isn't the greatest, but that individualism and confidence is what makes him the player he is. English fans, for some strange reason, seem to have a strong disliking to him that I haven't figured out. The media especially likes to lay into him, but he's always been class and consistently scored goals - even in his 'failed' stint at Barca, he scored 16 goals in 29 apps and got 9 assists.
He's not on the same level as Messi. But he is, nonetheless, an extremely effective footballer who also manages to do the spectacular.
He's a great player who unfortunately hasn't had the best of luck in big games. He was in that amazing Juve team that got relegated because of match-fixing scandals; the he was at Inter under Mancini, who has a terrible Champions League record but walked the league. Then he left for Barca just as Mourinho was getting his team together that eventually won the CL trophy. And he just didn't fit in at Barca whatsoever.
Possibly, his personality isn't the greatest, but that individualism and confidence is what makes him the player he is. English fans, for some strange reason, seem to have a strong disliking to him that I haven't figured out. The media especially likes to lay into him, but he's always been class and consistently scored goals - even in his 'failed' stint at Barca, he scored 16 goals in 29 apps and got 9 assists.
He's not on the same level as Messi. But he is, nonetheless, an extremely effective footballer who also manages to do the spectacular.
agree with all of this.
he's in my top 2 favourites right now (discounting the likes of giggs of course who is my favourite of all time).
iniesta and zlatan
Someone tell ekeke being a united player doesn't automatically make you better than everyone
Given a choice between Zlatan and RVP I'd take the latter.
Yeah because I've always rated every United player. And last season I was crowing about how Berbatov is better than Ibrahimovic. Tell yourself to pay attention
rvp works better with our team yes, but i'm not sure rvp could win leagues with all the teams zlatan has done so.
zlatan's top end is much higher IMO but you have to build a team around him first and foremost.
Ibrahimovic has to be the best striker in the world at this time for me, discluding the big two of course. His mix of physicality and creative ability is devastating and for me, better than anyone else can offer right now.
So he's not the best striker in the world in your opinion, he's the third best.
I'd say not even close to that...maybe top ten but then you have to take into consideration he's crap for a third (guess) of his games.
Well your guess is way off and you clearly don't watch him regularly. He's become really consistent these last few years, not just amazing once every few games and doesn't care for the others. And I wouldn't call him the best, but he is 100% in the top 5, the only others at his level right now are van Persie and falcao for out and out strikers.
your arguments suggest you need to pay more attention when it comes to the football you're watching
Actually, I'd take Rooney above him...FFS I'd say the racist twat is a better forward.
You're way off here. The consistency argument has been used many times but in recent years has become meaningless because he's not inconsistent at all. He delivers as much as any of the other big strikers. To your other post, to say Rooney is better is a fair opinion. I don't agree, but it's not daft. Saying Suarez is better however is simply ridiculous. Ibrahimovic is on a different level to Suarez, who has been far from consistent since his move to Liverpool.
A bit fun how mungy is using inconsistency as the main reason for not rating Zlatan, and then happens to rate Rooney and Suarez higher.
I still think he's a lazy cnut, but the last couple of weeks he's been in some effin cracking form. He'll be a right handful in the champions league this year if he keeps it up.
Ibra's technique is sublime, for such a big guy it's his technique which really stands out. Love how the English media have jumped on his dick all of a sudden
That's just completely ridiculous. I mean Suarez is not even close to Ibrahimovic's level.. in any aspect of his game. Even for close control, Ibrahimovic is miles better then Suarez. Did Ibrahimovic personally insult you or something to make you dislike him this much that you can't even see that he's a truly world class striker?
Comparing Rooney to him is hard because Rooney isn't exactly a striker these days, but when Rooney was a striker (last season, 09/10), he was at a similar level to Ibra. So pretty much I rate them both at around the same level.
How you can rate Suarez who scored 17 goals last season as liverpools main goalscorer last season over Ibrahimovic, who scored 35 goals and got 14 assists for Milan last season I will never know. I mean Ibrahimovic hasn't scored less then 20 goals in a season since 06/07 and people still call him inconsistent
People are so ridiculously biased with this premier league> all concept that they act like the Italian league, French league, German League or Spanish leagues are all shit.
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