It wouldn't have been hard
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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It wouldn't have been hard
He'd never have given that on an Inter player in his own box. It wasnt a handball, it was the ball rifled straight at someone's hand from 1 yard away. It also sets an extremely dangerous precident as sometimes players get the ball and purposefully kick it straight up at the opponent's hand/midsection and claim a handball. Its rarely given, but tonight's call says that would be correct to be given. So all the more incentive to purposefully do it and buy yourself a cheap pen, because its impossible to completely make sure you cant possibly give a penalty away in that situation.
Not would have Chief
Was
Barca have spent shitloads buying an inferior player whilst shipping the better one out they had in exchange, and everyone knows it. And those that continue to argue otherwise... well there's no hope for them is there
Ok. forget tonight.
remember the first leg, around the first or second minute?
beautiful cross comes in off Maxwell on the left. what does the dozy cnut do? wave an effete leg at it, instead of steaming through with his big head and using his body to his advantage.
that, to me, sums up Ibrahimovic as a player.
Is that so? Is that why favorite Samuel was anonymous in 2 straight champions league semi finals. Especially last season in a Barca side playing way above the level this one played today?
How about we bring up two Champions League finals instead?
What did Ibrahimovic do in a Champions League semi to tell you he was any better?
That's too bad for you then. All strikers don't have the same style. I had no problem with him trying his leg at such a cross. After all I've seen him score like that in the past.
We're at the end of the season and the conclusion is that Zlatan has been a waste of money and space.
More slow and selfish than Berbatov, his ugly copy
We should we? It's not Zlatan's fault his previous teams were never strong enough to get him to one. Don't try and shift the goal posts to suit your position. Bottom line Eto'o at this same stage in a Barca shirt didn't fair any better. Yet he had 2 cracks at it. This is Zlatan's first yet you're ready to crucify him. Bottom line. You're just plain blind with bias.
Why would he be biased?
He didn't this time, did he?
My point is quite simple: he is the sort of player who tries complicated things when the simplest will be most effective.
It is one of the hallmarks of great players, to take the simplest option.
I remember looking at that play and thinking wtf? - and I wasn't alone.
Messi, "the best player of all time", was horrible today. Just like the first leg
This fella just never disappoints me.
The man is a serial ****per. I don't see how this is beyond doubt.
who here feels that his barca career is over?
IMO barca will sell him for big money this summer. I can see city splurging for him.
IMO barca will sell him for big money this summer. I can see city splurging for him.
They won't be getting £70m+ back for him.
Astonishingly crap.
What excuses can his defenders offer up this time?
Not even Swedish media try to defend him anymore. A 5 year old can notice that he doesn't fit into Barca's play.
Excuse for what? What excuse do you have for Messi being the worst player in both legs?
worst player?
Messi had an absolute mare, but Ibrahimovic stank up Europe.
it'll be reeking for weeks!
Are you saying Messi was worst than Zlatan ?
You'd have a point if you didn't go in to knee-jerk overdrive.
I'd imagine we should because it doesn't get any bigger than the champions league final, and Eto'o has produced on both occasions he's been thereZlatan's team was plenty strong enough tonight for him, they even played against ten men, what more can you ask for? How many more excuses are you going to make?
A fair point!
they can still get 40 for him from the likes of city IMO.
Mmm. That's just not true though is it. I'm not getting sucked into these Messi debates. I value my sanity. Needless to say though that Messi was quiet as opposed to "the worst player". He brought a sensational save out of the Inter keeper and then played an inch perfect ball to Bojan who missed a sitter. You must have been making a cuppa during those moments.
He was astonishingly crap on the night. Awful performance.
He's a decent player - crap attitude though. And never worth £70m...
That's still a hell of a hit though.
Many of us called it an atrocious transfer dealing when it happened.
He was astonishingly crap on the night. Awful performance.
He's a decent player - crap attitude though. And never worth £70m...
Agree with this.
He wasn't astonishingly crap though. To do that he'd have needed to have missed half a dozen easy chances. What happened to Ibrahimovic tonight happened to Drogba when he faced Lucio and Samuel. Credit to the defenders for a magnificent performance.
Yep, just done a thread on it. For me, it's the best defensive performance I've ever seen.
agreed. but that's the difference though. barca will have the bollocks to probably do it and swallow the loss whereas we'll be no where near as decisive in shifting our bulgarian.
What I find surprising is that it often happens to Ibrahimovic when he comes up against top-class defenders; not often Drogba, though.
Weird, huh?
Ibrahimovic's big-game flaws are well-documented. Hell I've gone on about them myself plenty enough. But too many people look to stick the knife in for dubious reasons.
What are these dubious reasons I ask?
Could it be people are just telling it like it is? Here is a player plenty hold up as the greatest exponent of his art, and yet...
Is the reasoning that he habitually ****s, never offers anything meaningful and is generally a let down dubious reasons? In fact, based on his Champions League showings, is this reasoning even disputable?
Nowt to do with bollocks. They will only be able to find one buyer - City. I doubt we'd be looking to do business with our neighbours.
Exactly. This is my major gripe with Ibrahimovic, really.
Too may are keen to include him with among the great strikers in the game today. He is not. A good player, mind, but nowhere near what he's made out to be.
That's why I prefer Eto'o to Ibra and Tevez to Berbatov. I prefer an idiot running around and pressing the opponent to a talented player who plays while feckin' standing!!!!.. and neither Eto'o nor Tevez -on the field- are idiots
Am I mistaken or was Jason Roberts lumbering about up front for Barcelona tonight? I'm not claiming he's the best striker in the world and never have done, but he's nowhere near as crap as has been made out. The primary problem tonight for Barcelona as an attacking unit wasn't Ibrahimovic's apparent incompetence but an overall and collective inability to break down Inter who were defending en-masse. The issue was tactical and only when Barcelona went to two central strikers (Pique and Bojan) did they finally open up the Nerazzuri defence.
I believe that the description that I offered for his performance over the two legs was about fair.
I think it's telling that Guardiola hauled him off with half an hour to play, when they're chasing 2 goals to get to the final. It seems Pep wasn't rating him either.
That's not really a fair assessment of Jason Roberts either though is it!
He was hauled off after 60 minutes with Barca needing two goals to progress. If some of the comments have been a little over the top; it's not been by much
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