Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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His two goals yesterday, absolute peaches





He's definately on a cracking run of form. What a goal that first one is, not sure there are many strikers out there hitting the ball as hard as he is currently. Second is a thumping strike too, but the keepers also having a shocker

i still wouldn't want him at OT
 
That would be extremely biased I'm afraid.

Not at all. In fact my Bolton supporting flatmate said exactly the same thing.

Rooney offers the team far more than Ibrahimovic would do, yeah he'd score more etc, but we have players doing that, he would not replace what we'd lose in Rooney.

Offer me any player in the world and you'd get told to shove it when it comes to Rooney.

Sorry he's just one of them players you would not replace, like, Robson, Cantana, Keane.
 
The only areas Rooney contributes more for me is his courage,fighting spirit and willingness/ability to play different positions when asked. When it comes to his attacking role in the team ,in every aspect Zlatan is better (playmaking ability included).
 
The only areas Rooney contributes more for me is his courage,fighting spirit and willingness/ability to play different positions when asked. When it comes to his attacking role in the team ,in every aspect Zlatan is better (playmaking ability included).


For that reason I wouldn't swap.

Each team can afford to have one player who doesn't pull his weight (berbatov for us, even Ronaldo has started to get back and defend).

If you have two things become very open at the back a lot, with 2 players standing on the half way line doing nothing.

Ibrahimovic instead of Berbatov? Possibly. Rooney? No.
 
The only areas Rooney contributes more for me is his courage,fighting spirit and willingness/ability to play different positions when asked. When it comes to his attacking role in the team ,in every aspect Zlatan is better (playmaking ability included).

The problem with rooney is that he is super inconsistant. However a rooney on form is better than zlatan. Too bad a rooney on form is quite rare.
 
The problem with rooney is that he is super inconsistant. However a rooney on form is better than zlatan. Too bad a rooney on form is quite rare.

Rooney not on form is still often better than a lot of players... (apart from arsenal last weekend..)
 
For that reason I wouldn't swap.

Each team can afford to have one player who doesn't pull his weight (berbatov for us, even Ronaldo has started to get back and defend).

If you have two things become very open at the back a lot, with 2 players standing on the half way line doing nothing.

Ibrahimovic instead of Berbatov? Possibly. Rooney? No.

I agree with you in a certain way but not entirely.
@Freak: You have to look at things generally, if inconsistency is part of Rooney's game then you cannot forget it (Zlatan isn't the most consistent player anyway). Rooney on form is unstoppable :cool:
 
Ibrahimovic has actually been putting in shifts for Mourinho, it seems like the Portuguese and the Swede have a good relationship which is allowing Mourinho to use Zlatan in anyway he likes.

Ibrahimovic is for me one of the best strikers in world football if not the best. He can still improve because he seems to only score crackers. If he could learn to poach a bit more he'd be deadly. However as a creative player i honestly can't think of many better. His passing and technique are as good if not better than anyone elses in world football.

The only player i would say had more as a creative passer of the ball was Ronaldinho in his prime but Zlatan has alot of simelar qualities in his passing and creative play.
 
Easily top 5 IMO.

At the moment I`d only have Ronaldo and Messi infront of him.


Wouldn`t sway him for Rooney mind, wouldn`t swap anyone with Rooney, but we could do with both. Rooney and Ibrahimovic up front would be orgasmic. I do think he`ll stay in Italy or go to Spain though.
 
And Eto'o?

13 league goals in 11 games is bloody impressive.


True enough, I guess you could put one before the other.

I like Zlatan more though, I feel he is the complete striker in many ways and has more to his game than Eto`o.
 
The only areas Rooney contributes more for me is his courage,fighting spirit and willingness/ability to play different positions when asked. When it comes to his attacking role in the team ,in every aspect Zlatan is better (playmaking ability included).

That's way off IMO and the stats agree with me.
 
That's way off IMO and the stats agree with me.

Stats stats stats. Alonso has arguably been Liverpools best player this season but has maybe 1-2 assists.

Zlatan creates so many chances for the team, just like Berbatov does. Not his fault the chance isn't scored.

And if you doubt his playmaking abilities take a look at the goal he set up for Adriano in the CL a few rounds back. Someone im sure will post the video.

And for the record Zlatan on form >>>> Rooney on form. No doubt in my mind. There is nothing except work rate that Rooney has ahead of him IMO.
 
Stats stats stats. Alonso has arguably been Liverpools best player this season but has maybe 1-2 assists.

Zlatan creates so many chances for the team, just like Berbatov does. Not his fault the chance isn't scored.

And if you doubt his playmaking abilities take a look at the goal he set up for Adriano in the CL a few rounds back. Someone im sure will post the video.

And for the record Zlatan on form >>>> Rooney on form. No doubt in my mind. There is nothing except work rate that Rooney has ahead of him IMO.

Stats are never the whole truth but sometimes they speak so loudly only a fool will not listen. Not his fault the chance isn't scored? He plays for Inter, not Macclesfield. It'll obviously pretty much even itself out over the course of a season. And I'd add aggression, dynamism, passing and vision to the 'things Roo is better at' list. I'm not saying Zlatan lacks vision or passing ability, he cleasrly doesn't, but Wayne nicks it.
 
Stats are never the whole truth but sometimes they speak so loudly only a fool will not listen. Not his fault the chance isn't scored? He plays for Inter, not Macclesfield. It'll obviously pretty much even itself out over the course of a season. And I'd add aggression, dynamism, passing and vision to the 'things Roo is better at' list. I'm not saying Zlatan lacks vision or passing ability, he cleasrly doesn't, but Wayne nicks it.

Agreed they're not but how are you going to blame Zlatan if someone misses a sitter from one of his through passes? Comon man.

Agression / Work rate - these kind of things I would give to Rooney too. IMO Zlatan has the better Vision, not saying Rooney's are shite either its just my opinion is different.
 
Agreed they're not but how are you going to blame Zlatan if someone misses a sitter from one of his through passes? Comon man.

The point is it'll even itself out. I agree that there isn't too much seperating them in terms of vision and passing ability.
 
The point is it'll even itself out. I agree that there isn't too much seperating them in terms of vision and passing ability.

One thing I will say though is that both players for the most part have not reached their potential which is sad to see. But look at Ibrahimovic's career - he has one a title with every club he's played for. Thats amazing and it cleary shows the influence he has on the team.
 
He was never up for sale, not even for all the money in the world.
 
And Eto'o?

13 league goals in 11 games is bloody impressive.


Yeah the numbers are impressive but the opposition werent. They played shite opposition and now they have a more difficuilt fixture list coming up and we will see if he can keep it up.
 
Zlatan is definitely a better playmaker than Rooney.
 
Not at all. In fact my Bolton supporting flatmate said exactly the same thing.

Rooney offers the team far more than Ibrahimovic would do, yeah he'd score more etc, but we have players doing that, he would not replace what we'd lose in Rooney.
Offer me any player in the world and you'd get told to shove it when it comes to Rooney.

Sorry he's just one of them players you would not replace, like, Robson, Cantana, Keane.

Er. Not really. We have one player in the top 32 goalscorers in the league this season and thats Ronaldo.

Rooney is a creative striker. So are Tevez, Berbatov and Ibrahimovic.
 
And Eto'o?

13 league goals in 11 games is bloody impressive.

Is 11 goals in 11 games for a Valencia side half as good as this Barcelona side now that they are on form, impressive?

No disrespect to Eto'o who is a fantastic player, but thats the record I'd expect of Barcelona's central striker given their recent run of form.

That said, I'd expect much better records than our strikers can boast this season too... So I guess its one thing expecting it and another getting it. Fantastic player.
 
On form he's the best striker in the world along with Eto'o. I agree with whoever said he's in the top 5 players in the world.
 
He was never up for sale, not even for all the money in the world.

Only time he could have been got was when Juve were religated.

Zlatan is a world class player. He is been accused of not doing it in the big games but he has put in MOTM performances against all his rivals in serie A. It is the champions league where he hasn't done enough. Last year he was brilliant up until the Liverpool game, which was largely down to shocking refereeing. Inter played about 150 of the 180 mins with 10 men. But Ibra gets the blame for missing a chance or two despite laying on one massive opertunity which Cruz fluffed.

Only in Italy is Ibra truely appreciated. He has overshadowed Kaka for years in serie A but the brazilian is still regarded as the better player outside of italy. This probably wont change until Ibra wins the Champions League which will be difficult with the team he plays for. Unless Mourinho can build his own team but just looking at him signing the likes of Mancini and Qauresma makes me wonder if they can truely challenge.
 
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